Does this drive you as nuts as me?

If you people are irritated by things like these, then it is because you are irritable. Not because anyone else does anything wrong.
Actually, they are controlling more than anything else.
 
Less than now in portrait mode. Ok, i do see that the majority of photos are landscape oriented though their domination may be diminishing with phones. Still the trend toward more and more horizontal monitors feels crazy. For photographers at least.
There used to be monitors that could be rotated but with the prevalence of video I rarely see them anymore.
 
I already started thinking that this is a sort of interesting thread, and at the same time one that I feel slightly uncomfortable with, when I started seeing suggestions that the phone should give the the users an electric shock as punishment. if they ever were to use their phones to record video vertically -- differently than how the commentators have decided they should be used.

The accelerating intolerance against the "verticals" has not stopped there. Now it seems that there is a close watch kept, not only against the actual verticals, but also against anyone who attempts to imply that vertical is -- not a way to do it, absolutely not -- but in some situations justifiable. Any such suggestion is taken down pretty harshly within minutes. I am just finding it very interesting how these things flare up...
They don't watch TV, millennial world started with Facebook & now is largely Snapchat. Neither app works horizontal. Everything they do is on a phone, vertical is their norm.

The real millennial app is Snapchat, for the most part they have ditched FB. If you send a video to a Snapchat user if cannot be rotated so it ends up tiny.

(Just double checked SC rotation with my teenage son since I do not use SC)
 
I was attending my eldest step-son's band concert, he plays electric bass, I resisted the urge to bring my gear as he was nervous enough. Anyways, this was at a Jr. High school and their were two student "photographers" for the school. One had a Nikon D3400 with the standard kit lens, and the other girl had a Fuji, which I was somewhat impressed, until I saw the girl with the Nikon show her how to turn it on and put it on Auto, which both had. Now that was not the bothersome part, we all started somewhere, the nails on the chalkboard moment for me was when I saw both of them only using live view and holding it out in front of them like a smartphone. Now I get that these kids grew up taking photos with phones, but an instructor or someone for the love of god should have at least taught them how to hold a SLR. I bit my tongue and didn't say anything, but man that was hard.
 
that drives me crazy is vertical video. One of my friends posts a lot of vertical video on face book. I ended up blocking their posts because it irritated me so much.

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Brian
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I personally prefer vertical video when checking FB as I don't have to rotate my phone. But that's the only scenario vertical video is preferred.
It really just depends on what you are looking at. For still photos, most benefit from a horizontal orientation, but a few are better in vertical portrait mode. And some are better in a square aspect ratio.

The same thing is true for video. Since most videos are viewed on a horizontal screen, then shooting them horizontally makes the most sense. And it really isn't that hard to turn a smartphone sideways whenever you are creating a video that isn't only for other smartphones.

Unless you'd much rather see this:

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Almost as much as people taking photos in a park with external flash pointing to the sky.
I always wondered why people think they can light up an entire stadium or concert hall with that tiny little built in flash on their cameras or smartphones.

Those flashes are useful up to around 10 or 15 feet at most. When they use them to photograph something 200 feet away... it is just an annoyance for everyone else.

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Since most videos are viewed on a horizontal screen
Yeah, Video tapes, you mean? Most videos today are shot and viewed on mobile phones.



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A video of me and my dog racing to get a ball from water viewed on my smartphone. Too bad it was filmed with a camera!
 
Since most videos are viewed on a horizontal screen
Yeah, Video tapes, you mean? Most videos today are shot and viewed on mobile phones.

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A video of me and my dog racing to get a ball from water viewed on my smartphone. Too bad it was filmed with a camera!
That's some video, and some race. What would it look like if you simply rotated your phone say, 90 degrees? Wouldn't it more completely fill the screen?
 
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It would, except that I would first have to turn rotation on. Many people, especially kids who do not necessarily use their phones sitting up, turn off the auto rotation. It is too much bother to just turn it on for one flick.

Some apps (You Tube) are smart enough to push the content on landscape mode when full screened, regardless of settings. I do like those.
 
I already started thinking that this is a sort of interesting thread, and at the same time one that I feel slightly uncomfortable with, when I started seeing suggestions that the phone should give the the users an electric shock as punishment. if they ever were to use their phones to record video vertically -- differently than how the commentators have decided they should be used.

The accelerating intolerance against the "verticals" has not stopped there. Now it seems that there is a close watch kept, not only against the actual verticals, but also against anyone who attempts to imply that vertical is -- not a way to do it, absolutely not -- but in some situations justifiable. Any such suggestion is taken down pretty harshly within minutes. I am just finding it very interesting how these things flare up...
They don't watch TV, millennial world started with Facebook & now is largely Snapchat. Neither app works horizontal. Everything they do is on a phone, vertical is their norm.

The real millennial app is Snapchat, for the most part they have ditched FB. If you send a video to a Snapchat user if cannot be rotated so it ends up tiny.

(Just double checked SC rotation with my teenage son since I do not use SC)
When I first downloaded FB to my phone, the horizontal rotation worked. They they did an update and no more. I hate it because the keyboard is so tiny in vertical mode.
 
It would, except that I would first have to turn rotation on. Many people, especially kids who do not necessarily use their phones sitting up, turn off the auto rotation. It is too much bother to just turn it on for one flick.
Are you saying you are one of those kids who doesn't want to bother with turning your phone's rotation feature on?

If you aren't then you should have no problem.

If you are, then you really should learn how to do it. I mean... it REALLY isn't that hard to do. Especially for you tech savvy young people.....
Some apps (You Tube) are smart enough to push the content on landscape mode when full screened, regardless of settings. I do like those.
 
It would, except that I would first have to turn rotation on. Many people, especially kids who do not necessarily use their phones sitting up, turn off the auto rotation. It is too much bother to just turn it on for one flick.
Are you saying you are one of those kids who doesn't want to bother with turning your phone's rotation feature on?

If you aren't then you should have no problem.

If you are, then you really should learn how to do it. I mean... it REALLY isn't that hard to do. Especially for you tech savvy young people.....
Some apps (You Tube) are smart enough to push the content on landscape mode when full screened, regardless of settings. I do like those.
 
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That's great for things that are wrong but holding a phone in way different from years of holding another way does not make it wrong.
How about saying there could be a better way of doing it. These forums are full of people telling others that there are better cameras or better ways of taking a photo yet nobody questions that.
Because we are offering (sometimes imposing) advice to people who choose to come to these forums out of their interest in the topic. Surely we can confine our sage advice to the membership here (and perhaps long-suffering family and friends) and let the rest of the world be?

Sure, I go to things like my daughter's high school events or public events and see people using their phones to take photos and videos that I know for certain are going to look like rubbish. I might feel a little sorry for them, but it's their choice - and who am I to say that are not going to feel perfectly happy with the results?

We spend our lives surrounded by people doing the "wrong" thing. We can choose to tie ourselves in knots about it. But as long as no harm comes to ourselves and others, why not choose to just let others be? Or we could go and find a cave or forest to live in.
Why give vertical video a pass?
Because in the overall scheme of things, it really doesn't matter.
 
I'm not talking about kids here. I'm talking about adults in their 30's, 40's and 50's. They are making videos to view on their computers and TVs. Some of you people are making wild assumptions about millennials that may not be true. I also don't believe the world will adapt to vertical video since it's not natural. The real world, our line of sight, is horizontally oriented.

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Tom
Look at the picture, not the pixels
 
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You miss my point. You used the word "correct" as if there is an incorrect or wrong way. There is no correct or wrong way but there is a preference for most people. And yes you have a right to express your preference.
Then I retract my use of the word correct. What I said was "It's human nature to want to correct things we see as wrong or less than ideal."
You must be very busy, spending your time correcting other people.

From a spiritual and religious (and moral) perspective, I constantly see people going about their lives in ways that are wrong or less than ideal. Should I start trying to correct them, beginning with the members on here?
That statement is true because it is human nature to want to correct things but shooting vertical video is, in most cases, less than ideal in my opinion.
Great. Thanks for your opinion. As someone who chooses to visit this forum to engage with others on the topic of photography (and, apparently, videography), I am interested in your opinion. But why should that opinion extend to people who do not choose to come to this forum? Leave them to their own devices (however they choose to hold those devices).
 
You miss my point. You used the word "correct" as if there is an incorrect or wrong way. There is no correct or wrong way but there is a preference for most people. And yes you have a right to express your preference.
Then I retract my use of the word correct. What I said was "It's human nature to want to correct things we see as wrong or less than ideal."
You must be very busy, spending your time correcting other people.
Actually I never do that because people don't like it. I keep it to myself.
 
Almost as much as people taking photos in a park with external flash pointing to the sky.
If you see me shooting an outdoor event you may just see my flash pointed up to the sky. It stays pointed that way until I need it.

This forum is something else.
 
That's not unusual. I had a camera once that, when it was in certain settings, the flash would automatically pop up even though it wasn't needed. It didn't shoot unless I told it to, so I didn't mind. I don't remember being ridiculed for it, and I don't remember where it was pointing.
 

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