Kunisawa
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If you had to buy a new camera today, would you still buy the 5D IV? Why/Why not?
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Current 5D IV owners - Would you buy it again today?
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Agreed, it costs much more in total if you invest too much but in my case its not a dealbreaker. My setup will be like 16-35 f4, nikon or 3rd party 24-70, and 200-500 and maybe a prime lens for portraits, like 85mm 1.8g
16-35 f4 have similar prices in both sides, there are many 3rd party options for 24-70 and 85 1.8 and 200-500 don't cost much more than canon equivalents.
Yes although 5d 4 looks weaker than d850 in almost every aspect, I am still not sure why i am considering to buy it when d850 is there.
As Jonathan Brady said, "Be careful with absolute statements."
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Yes that is the irony.
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I was about to order the 5D4 (to replace my 6D for lowlight) when I saw the D850 specs. I cancelled the 5D4.
No, I'm not switching to Nikon, too expensive for now, but the D850 tells me that 5D4 is overpriced.
Sticking with my 5DSr and 6D.
Maybe A7Riii will be even better, we'll see.
No, I'm not switching to Nikon, too expensive for now, but the D850 tells me that 5D4 is overpriced.
Sticking with my 5DSr and 6D.
Maybe A7Riii will be even better, we'll see.
No! I bought the 5DMkiv last year replacement for mk3
I have found issues with exposure blowing out completely also photos have been quite soft compaired to my mk3
At this present time its sat at Canon Sydney.
Marquee
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I bought a IV, grey market for £2k. I would not pay £3k for it which is the local retail price. I paid £2k for a Canon D60 in 2002, which reminds me of how far these cameras have come at this price point. I would buy the camera again. I'm not particularly interested in what other brands are producing as I have invested a lot in the Canon ecosystem and like the ergonomics. Chasing the best specification camera is a pursuit that will only lead to unhappiness. People using this site need to remember its purpose is to make you want to buy more cameras. Producing great photographs is an entirely different pursuit to pursuing and arguing for the best camera.
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txsizzler
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I bought my 5D IV for essentially $1500 ($2600 total, came with the 24-105 f/4 L, and the 100mm f/2.8 L lenses, and the camera itself is like new with approx 3800 shutter actuations). For that price, a resounding YES, most definitely would. For the $3299 currently at B&H? No, probably not. For that price, I would go with the A7RIII (save $100 to boot), and get the Sigma MC-11 adapter to use with my Canon lenses.
As much as I love the 5D IV, it's price really must come down to be truly competitive, especially with the recent Sony and Nikon offerings. At $2600-$2800, I think it would be worthwhile then. That said, if you don't mind not having warranty, buying a used 5D IV is definitely something to look into.
The camera really is a pleasure to use. Just that price...
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I bought mine on the first day it came out, so I paid a premium price for it. I have not been disappointed with my decision. I had been using the 6D with some really terrific Canon glass. I knew exactly what I found to be the limits of the 6D and had become pretty adept working around them, though I knew they were still there and were in some ways preventing me from doing more with the camera. Other cameras have come out since then, but i took several thousand photographs in different parts of the world and the US in the year between when the mk iv came out and the various 2017 cameras did. I would have really missed out a lot had I waited for a cheaper price or a different camera.
I also have extensive experience with Nikon and Sony gear, all of which I recently sold. For me, the Canon seems more intuitive than Nikons or Sonys. But, I see that as a very personal thing. I also seem to be one of those weird people who think that PCs are easier to use than Macs (again, a personal thing).
The 5d mk iv ticked off the boxes I wanted and had a few more things I never thought I wanted but am glad to have. The ergonomics are even better than the 6D. I also bought a 5dsr for the resolution, and use it for a lot of landscape photography, but there are things I definitely prefer about the 5d mk iv. I am envious of my friends who have D850s because they have the best of what I like about the mk iv and the 5dsr in a single body, but I am not wild about the feel of the d850, which is partially why I switched from Nikon in the first place. I loved the Sony image quality but missed too many shots trying to figure out what I needed to do to get them.
In short, cameras are tools to accomplish ends. the mk iv works well for me, but that doesn't mean it would be the best camera for everyone. I like the comment about how we can always chase camera perfection, but sometimes it is better to concentrate on making the best use of what one has right now.
It is scary to make an investment in a ff camera because you will need the lenses to go with it and this is an expensive hobby (or even profession). Once you have that investment, it becomes more expensive to switch (though lenses hold their value pretty well). If you are just starting out, you should try out different bodies if you can. I will be the first to say that none of the Canons I own have ever come in first on the basis of spec sheets, but for me the total packages--lenses and cameras--work very well together in ways that I could never really duplicate with Nikon and Sony equipment. But then, that is my personal preference for whatever it is worth.
I also have extensive experience with Nikon and Sony gear, all of which I recently sold. For me, the Canon seems more intuitive than Nikons or Sonys. But, I see that as a very personal thing. I also seem to be one of those weird people who think that PCs are easier to use than Macs (again, a personal thing).
The 5d mk iv ticked off the boxes I wanted and had a few more things I never thought I wanted but am glad to have. The ergonomics are even better than the 6D. I also bought a 5dsr for the resolution, and use it for a lot of landscape photography, but there are things I definitely prefer about the 5d mk iv. I am envious of my friends who have D850s because they have the best of what I like about the mk iv and the 5dsr in a single body, but I am not wild about the feel of the d850, which is partially why I switched from Nikon in the first place. I loved the Sony image quality but missed too many shots trying to figure out what I needed to do to get them.
In short, cameras are tools to accomplish ends. the mk iv works well for me, but that doesn't mean it would be the best camera for everyone. I like the comment about how we can always chase camera perfection, but sometimes it is better to concentrate on making the best use of what one has right now.
It is scary to make an investment in a ff camera because you will need the lenses to go with it and this is an expensive hobby (or even profession). Once you have that investment, it becomes more expensive to switch (though lenses hold their value pretty well). If you are just starting out, you should try out different bodies if you can. I will be the first to say that none of the Canons I own have ever come in first on the basis of spec sheets, but for me the total packages--lenses and cameras--work very well together in ways that I could never really duplicate with Nikon and Sony equipment. But then, that is my personal preference for whatever it is worth.
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Bought the 5D at release, wonderful imaging tool that replaced the Bronica 645 rig. Skipped the 5D-II though had rented it to see if it was a necessary jump. Bought the 5D-III at release, loved it! Evaluated when the IV came out and felt I could wait. The deals were enticing at the end of '17 so I jumped. Now that the IV is here I wish I had not waited a year.
I left Minolta for Nikon and then to Canon, will not transition again.
I left Minolta for Nikon and then to Canon, will not transition again.
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Yup!
Yes.
I found a good deal on a new 5d4 with warranty, $2300 after selling kit lens.I also sold my 6d and 80d (plus a few cheap crop lenses) right before that crazy deals showed up and prices dropped. They didn't pay completely for 5d4, but the gap was sufficiently low to add some cash.
If that deal didn't work, I would probably have tried one of the black market deals, which have close price and a warranty through 3rd party.
In the end, I was much more happy than I though I would be. Probably the same level of excitement as when I got my first DSLR (Canon 450d), and more excitement than when I jumped from 450d to 6d (the latter had a few minuses, such as much increased weight, and 5d only added 100g on top, with better balance and handling).
I found a good deal on a new 5d4 with warranty, $2300 after selling kit lens.I also sold my 6d and 80d (plus a few cheap crop lenses) right before that crazy deals showed up and prices dropped. They didn't pay completely for 5d4, but the gap was sufficiently low to add some cash.
If that deal didn't work, I would probably have tried one of the black market deals, which have close price and a warranty through 3rd party.
In the end, I was much more happy than I though I would be. Probably the same level of excitement as when I got my first DSLR (Canon 450d), and more excitement than when I jumped from 450d to 6d (the latter had a few minuses, such as much increased weight, and 5d only added 100g on top, with better balance and handling).
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It is ofcourse tempting to wonder about how cool newer cameras are. Practically however, I like that I can operate my Canons with muscle memory, especially the 5D4 and 7D2. In the field, and in the heat of moment, sometimes that can make a big difference.
With 5D4, the IQ and DR are pretty close to the competition and I think good enough at this point.
On FF $ - indeed, it is a money pit especially when building up the kit.
With 5D4, the IQ and DR are pretty close to the competition and I think good enough at this point.
On FF $ - indeed, it is a money pit especially when building up the kit.
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Sure would. I’m very happy with my Mk IV...
So happy in fact that I sold my 1D X. (As much as I’ve liked my 1 series cameras...I don’t honestly need a camera that I can drive a Jeep over. LOL Granted, had I not been able to get the price I got I might not have sold it but still.)
I’m toying with the idea of getting a second one...and giving my Mk II to one of my kids.
All in all I think it’s a very strong platform.
So happy in fact that I sold my 1D X. (As much as I’ve liked my 1 series cameras...I don’t honestly need a camera that I can drive a Jeep over. LOL Granted, had I not been able to get the price I got I might not have sold it but still.)
I’m toying with the idea of getting a second one...and giving my Mk II to one of my kids.
All in all I think it’s a very strong platform.
I’m looking at a Canon body at the moment and I have a hard time justifying any of them.
5D IV: My fav. Good allround cam, a great upgrade from the III, but too expensive.
5Ds: More resolution than I need and more than 99% of lenses can resolve. 5D IV or A7R II/III a much better compromise.
6D II: Would have bought if it wasn’t for the DR. Shadow noise was one of the problems I had with the 5D III. Modern Canon crop bodies clearly beats it and the 5D III in the shadows.
5D III: If able to find a cheap second hand body maybe yes, but old sensor tech and DR one of the obvious problems.
Even if it’s tiresome it’s hard not to make the Sony comparison. The cheap A7 II beats the 6D II and 5D III in IQ, and it’s close to the 5D IV, at a third of the price. If we compare to the A7R models the comparison is obvious. I understand that people still want Canon bodies, I do too, but they also want IQ and value for their money.
5D IV: My fav. Good allround cam, a great upgrade from the III, but too expensive.
5Ds: More resolution than I need and more than 99% of lenses can resolve. 5D IV or A7R II/III a much better compromise.
6D II: Would have bought if it wasn’t for the DR. Shadow noise was one of the problems I had with the 5D III. Modern Canon crop bodies clearly beats it and the 5D III in the shadows.
5D III: If able to find a cheap second hand body maybe yes, but old sensor tech and DR one of the obvious problems.
Even if it’s tiresome it’s hard not to make the Sony comparison. The cheap A7 II beats the 6D II and 5D III in IQ, and it’s close to the 5D IV, at a third of the price. If we compare to the A7R models the comparison is obvious. I understand that people still want Canon bodies, I do too, but they also want IQ and value for their money.
Owning several excellent Canon mount lenses and zooms, I would certainly buy it today. Now if I had none of this glass, I would seriously consider the new Nikon D850 whose specs look very attractive and at a fairly good price. But Canon offers a formidable tool with DPAF, unique in the league.
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Congrats! I still keep EF 24-70L/2.8 II that is still the best in this category especially 70mm side compared to competitors, and excellent in sunstars. It becomes an 'IS' lens on A7r II/III with IBIS, and I can take sharp photos easily at 1/6~1/10 hand-held @70mm. I have lots of samples in such combo in my Flickr including a few full size or 100% cropped.
5D IV is still a very good camera. Canon needs to release a newer model, 5D V or 5DsR II, might combine into one line, to answer challenge from D850 and A7r III. Competition is great.
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