The power of the NX1 - you have to see this video... UAU!!!!!

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The power of the NX1: The level of detail seen in this video bellow is fantastic,

I can't see this level of detail in any camera.... am I missing something here? Was there a plot from reviewers to ignore/ boycott the fantastic camera, that is in fact the NX1?

I really don't get it... Why buy a new camera if the NX1 is still the best?!?!? Can someone explain it to me? Does this level of detail don't satisfy everyone? I mean, is this level of detail, too much for some people? They don't like it, somehow?!?! Or upset them?


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...and anyone owning any of the NX cameras can appreciate it, for sure. However, since Samsung closed shop on their camera production, all of this becomes an afterthought - filed under "what could have been had Samsung continued..."

So the likes of the NX1 and NX500 will be relevant for a good decade or so from now - I would imagine (but lots can happen during that timeframe).

In the meantime, if it's fantastic video/4K you're looking for (now and in the future), then you will have observed lots of folks moving specifically to Panasonic who is the current leader in this regard.
 
...and anyone owning any of the NX cameras can appreciate it, for sure. However, since Samsung closed shop on their camera production, all of this becomes an afterthought - filed under "what could have been had Samsung continued..."

So the likes of the NX1 and NX500 will be relevant for a good decade or so from now - I would imagine (but lots can happen during that timeframe).

In the meantime, if it's fantastic video/4K you're looking for (now and in the future), then you will have observed lots of folks moving specifically to Panasonic who is the current leader in this regard.
 
...it will only be 10 - 11 MP's. Even if I was a video freak, I'd have a hell of a time coming t accept a 10 MP video camera that cost over 2K. But then, that's just me.

This is why I periodically chime in here to remind folks that it's not a good idea to part with your NX cameras in general. These cameras, despite any shortcomings (which camera made doesn't have them), will stand the test of time. That's why I'm holding on to my NX300, NX30, and NX500 and they're not going anywhere.
 
...it will only be 10 - 11 MP's. Even if I was a video freak, I'd have a hell of a time coming t accept a 10 MP video camera that cost over 2K. But then, that's just me.

This is why I periodically chime in here to remind folks that it's not a good idea to part with your NX cameras in general. These cameras, despite any shortcomings (which camera made doesn't have them), will stand the test of time. That's why I'm holding on to my NX300, NX30, and NX500 and they're not going anywhere.

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You're not alone in that Ben. A lot of folks are STILL holding on to their NX gear even if they've purchased current models from other manufacturers, and I've seen a few people express regret for selling their NX camera a bit reactively.

Specifically, the NX1 and NX500 are those kinds of cameras many refer to as workhorses. That's the best compliment any camera can get in terms of features, performance and cost.

I still ascertain that these two cameras are the best hybrid mirrorless cameras ever created to date, period.

Though in my opinion the GH5 looks really wonderful on paper, I'm realizing the shine and hype has worn off a bit and the camera is starting to show its weaknesses. At this point, we all can truly evaluate its real world performance.

The AF is some of the worse around. This becomes very important to vloggers and handheld gimbal work. To maximize the camera's output, you really have to record externally, because internal bitrates are too comprimised. MFT comes with its own limitations and the workarounds are expensive.

I don't expect the GH5s to be a breakthrough update to the GH5. If Panasonic addresses the AF that could present an attractive proposition for a lot of Panasonic fans. But it will come at a compromise in lowered mega pixels. It will definitely not attract photographers. At any rate tradeoffs are likely to be quite apparent, I could see GH5 owners owning both versions for different applications. We shall see soon.

I'm personally not a huge fan of either Panasonic or Sony, for various reasons relating to color reproduction and image, hence my decision to go with the NX1 in late 2014.

I'm still with my NX1, and in fact wouldn't mind picking up another body for a reasonable price for a two camera kit for filmmaking.

I've tried to make an offer with two famous YouTuber's who own one or several NX1's but they refuse to let them go, even though they're "not using them" that often. Meaning, they're using them more than they publicaly admit.

Both of these people did jump immeditely on the GH5 bandwagon and seem relatively satisfied. That is, I see them making a lot of reassurances and justifications to mainly themselves that the GH5 was a worthy purchase.

However, its not hard to see they harbor a little disapointment, especially when it comes to AF. One of them finally cracked and said his NX1 was still the best all-around camera and once again, "workhorse" was prescribed to it.

The NX cameras are not perfect. I'm not a huge fan of the pretty bad rolling shutter (in 4k) which means I really have to limit myself to avoid fast movement, which means I have to film profile interior moving car scenes in 1080 or with a different camera, or not at all.

I know a lot of cameras suffer from RS, even some REDS, but the NX1 has quite a bit of it. When you realize the camera is scanning a full sensor readout on a 6.5k sensor and downscaling that to 4k, its not hard to understand why the rolling shutter is so pronounced.

Also, if I want a handheld look, I add it in post. The NX1 picks up on the slightest vibrations, both vertically and horizontally and the image breaks down. Plus in post I have full control over rate and intensity of the shake and none of the visual issues of RS.

You have to really be careful and delicate with grading the NX1/500 footage. There's not a ton of latitude in the stored image, mainly because of compression. It's not because it's inherently 8bit, that's a misconception, which is mistakeningly leading to the buzzword of a 10bit workflow for an eventual 8bit distribution. Instead, it has way more to do with the color science. 10bit is useful for VFX and very heavy grades. Otherwise, those two extra bits are mostly imperceptible, especially viewed on 8bit devices, and adding size to your file.

That being said, the camera's weakness can also be it's strength. The color science out of the box is not all that different from Canon. Sony and Panasonic could take a few notes here, especially with skin tones.

If you adjust anything in your NX camera adjust sharpness to completely off (-10) and lower your contrast (-2-5). Saturation doesnt really matter as it can be added or taken away in post non-destructively.

Obviously, if you turn down Saturation in camera, you're mid point in post will be much lower. You also can't adjust color saturation in post on a grayscale image. So use common sense here.

Lastly I reccommend Lumentri for simple color correction and slight grades. However, for heavier grades I reccomend Davinci Resolve or 3D LUT Creator. Lumentri just doesnt have the detailed toolset you need to avoid clipping, banding and artifacts introduced with heavier grades. With the other tools, you can produce better results with less effort and less time. Lumentri as a comprehensive color grading tool needs a little work.
 
...with all of the cameras that I use.
 
I agree with you flip 21. The reasons might be that most people don´t have the proper 4K displays or they don´t sit close enough because their livingroom designs were for HD TV:s not 4K. Most NX1 videographers turn the sharpness all the way down to -10 afraid of artefacts that they might see after grading. I use gamma DR with sharpness at zero and the detailed resolution, dynamic range and colours are so good that I never need any grading. I have made 400 4K NX1 videos over the last 3 years and I am all the time amazed over the superior resolution which is only achievable with steady shots. I am not fond of walking or fast panning with or without gimbals.
 
It should be on 4k Vimeo, YouTube has it in 720p only.

Superb images, but unable to see details since no 4k source and no 4k monitor too :-( .

And YES, Samsung NX1 is The KING, and it is a "technical" product in a world of "commercial's".

This video missing some important "technical details", internal recording w/wo the hack (MBPS?) or external...
 
I agree with you flip 21. The reasons might be that most people don´t have the proper 4K displays or they don´t sit close enough because their livingroom designs were for HD TV:s not 4K. Most NX1 videographers turn the sharpness all the way down to -10 afraid of artefacts that they might see after grading. I use gamma DR with sharpness at zero and the detailed resolution, dynamic range and colours are so good that I never need any grading. I have made 400 4K NX1 videos over the last 3 years and I am all the time amazed over the superior resolution which is only achievable with steady shots. I am not fond of walking or fast panning with or without gimbals.
I totally agree with you. So for me, in good light, the NX1 is the best camera I've seen. And it is far superior to the NX500. The NX500 in 4K, is not as detailed. I never heard anyone saying this, except once, in this forum, which made me open my eyes, but there is indeed a big difference between the NX500 and the NX1 in 4K video.

Now, for low light, the GH5s could have been a good NX1 companion but its high price ruins it... Don't you think? 2500$ is too much for a micro 4/3 camera? Maybe if it costs 1500$ could be something to consider... although it is impressive, even comparing to the A7sII till 25600 ISO. Here take a look.

 
Most NX1 videographers turn the sharpness all the way down to -10 afraid of artefacts that they might see after grading. I use gamma DR with sharpness at zero and the detailed resolution, dynamic range and colours are so good that I never need any grading. I have made 400 4K NX1 videos over the last 3 years and I am all the time amazed over the superior resolution which is only achievable with steady shots. I am not fond of walking or fast panning with or without gimbals.
What software do you use to edit your videos?
 
The power of the NX1: The level of detail seen in this video bellow is fantastic,

I can't see this level of detail in any camera.... am I missing something here? Was there a plot from reviewers to ignore/ boycott the fantastic camera, that is in fact the NX1?

I really don't get it... Why buy a new camera if the NX1 is still the best?!?!? Can someone explain it to me? Does this level of detail don't satisfy everyone? I mean, is this level of detail, too much for some people? They don't like it, somehow?!?! Or upset them?
Why would anyone buy knowingly into a dead system?

NX1 and S lenses are great but expensive, scarce , and a dead-end
 
On the surface, statements like that may initially make sense - yet presumptuous at the same time. In the long run, the reasons why so many users of older/outdated camera systems (i.e. Konica/Minolta, Kodak, regular Four Thirds, and now Samsung NX) are due to the following:

1. Deriving immense pleasure from using artfully crafted photographic instruments, regardless of age (or continuance of the system). For example, to this date, I still periodically reach for my 14-15 year old venerable Olympus E-1 (a 5 MP model) that still provides highly competitive IQ with many modern day cameras (below ISO 400, that is) and is built like the proverbial "tank." Samsung is no different as their designs and operational characteristics will have folks still using them for years to come. The perplexing mindset that somehow these older systems are no longer useful, is ridiculous. Are we to assume that just because Samsung has now bowed out of the camera business - that their cameras will somehow die soon? If you take good care of your gear, these cameras can last for a decade or much longer.

2. I can honestly state that I've used more digital cameras since 1998, than most folks will operate in a lifetime (123 at last count - I know, I'm sick... :-( ). And among all of those are some models that have been discontinued (system discontinuation, that is) that I still very much relish using today. Yet with good care, their life cycles and performance levels have not diminished. The same will hold true for Samsung! Sure, the life of this forum has significantly diminished but there are still thousands of very satisfied users of Samsung NX gear who won't want to part with their cameras anytime soon.
 
On the surface, statements like that may initially make sense - yet presumptuous at the same time. In the long run, the reasons why so many users of older/outdated camera systems (i.e. Konica/Minolta, Kodak, regular Four Thirds, and now Samsung NX) are due to the following:

1. Deriving immense pleasure from using artfully crafted photographic instruments, regardless of age (or continuance of the system). For example, to this date, I still periodically reach for my 14-15 year old venerable Olympus E-1 (a 5 MP model) that still provides highly competitive IQ with many modern day cameras (below ISO 400, that is) and is built like the proverbial "tank." Samsung is no different as their designs and operational characteristics will have folks still using them for years to come. The perplexing mindset that somehow these older systems are no longer useful, is ridiculous. Are we to assume that just because Samsung has now bowed out of the camera business - that their cameras will somehow die soon? If you take good care of your gear, these cameras can last for a decade or much longer.

2. I can honestly state that I've used more digital cameras since 1998, than most folks will operate in a lifetime (123 at last count - I know, I'm sick... :-( ). And among all of those are some models that have been discontinued (system discontinuation, that is) that I still very much relish using today. Yet with good care, their life cycles and performance levels have not diminished. The same will hold true for Samsung! Sure, the life of this forum has significantly diminished but there are still thousands of very satisfied users of Samsung NX gear who won't want to part with their cameras anytime soon.
 

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