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RAW or JPEG which one do you shoot with ?

RAW or JPEG which one do you shoot with ?

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Moti said:
...Forget it. No serious wedding photographer will ever give you his raw files.
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If one of the conditions for conforming to the definition of "serious wedding photographer" is the fact that he or she does not deliver raw files, you are absolutely correct.

On the other hand, I've seen very competent work delivered in the form of raw files to paying customers who prefer to do their own computer manipulation. It is all the matter of negotiating the contract, on both sides.

(FWIW, I've heard that repeat print business in wedding photography has dwindled to a trickle compared to what it was in the film days. Which, if correct, makes hanging onto and archiving image files (of whatever format) much less attractive business proposition for the photographer than it used to be).
 
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
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I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
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Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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I paid over $3,500, he was paid to process the files, or not, I have no idea how much processing he did.

The contract was to deliver a finished product. I did not care how he accomplished it.

He delivered the goods. The photos were excellent and delivered in a timely fashion.

No need for raw files.
 
Mark B. said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
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I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
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Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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I know several local wedding photographers. They deliver the final images, not raw files.
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I know of none who do either, but I would require it personally.
 
TeddyD said:
Mark B. said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
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I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
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Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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I know several local wedding photographers. They deliver the final images, not raw files.
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Concur, RAW is the equivalent of film.. never gave my negatives to anyone either

Teddy

ps. now when we have dismissed film except from nostalgic reasons why on earth I'd want to start using it's digital counterpart instead? :D
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Yea, that used to be an old "rule" - never give your film to anyone. I've not commissioned a job since the digital days that I didn't require raw files. You can keep a copy for yourself, but your work is commissioned by me and I own it or you don't work for me. Never had anyone refuse the work.
 
Moti said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
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I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
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Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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Forget it. No serious wedding photographer will ever give you his raw files.
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Bull. That's an archaic way of thinking.
 
tbcass said:
Moti said:
Forget it. No serious wedding photographer will ever give you his raw files.
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Yes. Like it or not when you hire a wedding photographer or studio photographer the photos belong to the photographer.
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Only if you write the contract that way. In the past 20 years, I've commissioned at least two dozen projects and always received raw files. They can keep all the copies they want, but they can't do anything with them because our contracts don't allow it without our permission. We control our products and the images of our products.

Never hired a wedding photographer, but I would do the same there too. You only get what you negotiate, so if you want to assume no one will give the raw files, then you won't get any raw files.
 
Nansen said:
Moti said:
...Forget it. No serious wedding photographer will ever give you his raw files.
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If one of the conditions for conforming to the definition of "serious wedding photographer" is the fact that he or she does not deliver raw files, you are absolutely correct.

On the other hand, I've seen very competent work delivered in the form of raw files to paying customers who prefer to do their own computer manipulation. It is all the matter of negotiating the contract, on both sides.

(FWIW, I've heard that repeat print business in wedding photography has dwindled to a trickle compared to what it was in the film days. Which, if correct, makes hanging onto and archiving image files (of whatever format) much less attractive business proposition for the photographer than it used to be).
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Exactly. This was the old way. No longer and I've not written a single contract without getting raw files. In most cases, I did the post processing work too, but not always.
 
tcg550 said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
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I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
Click to expand...
Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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I paid over $3,500, he was paid to process the files, or not, I have no idea how much processing he did.

The contract was to deliver a finished product. I did not care how he accomplished it.

He delivered the goods. The photos were excellent and delivered in a timely fashion.

No need for raw files.
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Not arguing - that's how most people want it. I'm just saying that if it were me, I would do that. I already do on the commercial side and I've never had a photographer refuse.
 
Bob A L said:
. . . I have never personally met anyone that shoots raw and processes on computer. . .
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Like Gerry, the number of people whose photo habits I know is small, but, like you, I don't know anyone who shoots raw. I had thought I knew one person who did, a person who regularly entered and won local photo contests and had her work accepted in some juried shows and local galleries, but in conversation I learned that she, too, is a JPEG shooter.
 
stevo23 said:
TeddyD said:
Mark B. said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
Click to expand...
I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
Click to expand...
Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
Click to expand...
I know several local wedding photographers. They deliver the final images, not raw files.
Click to expand...
Concur, RAW is the equivalent of film.. never gave my negatives to anyone either

Teddy

ps. now when we have dismissed film except from nostalgic reasons why on earth I'd want to start using it's digital counterpart instead? :D
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Yea, that used to be an old "rule" - never give your film to anyone. I've not commissioned a job since the digital days that I didn't require raw files. You can keep a copy for yourself, but your work is commissioned by me and I own it or you don't work for me. Never had anyone refuse the work.
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That wouldn’t work for many wedding photographers who would stand to lose additional potential sales from prints.
 
stevo23 said:
Moti said:
stevo23 said:
tcg550 said:
Chris59 said:
It's not the job of the customer to "understand your business". As a customer, I'm entitled to request information on how you intend to do the job I want.

As for "I can't be bothered to explain" - with that kind of attitude, it's no surprise you also "can't be bothered" understanding or working with RAW to provide a superior product to your customers.

I cannot imagine ever paying anyone to take JPEGs with a 7D Mk II. If I were you, I wouldn't let on who I was in case some of your clients find out...
Click to expand...
I paid my duaghter's wedding photographer $3,500+ I never asked what camera he was planning on using or what format he was shooting or what his workflow was after the shoot.

I never even looked at his camera while he and his partner were shooting. He delivered exactly what the contract said in the time frame it was promised.

Was he shooting raw? Probably, maybe, but it did not matter to me one bit.
Click to expand...
Very different feeling here. For weddings, I would ask for the raw files.
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Forget it. No serious wedding photographer will ever give you his raw files.
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Bull. That's an archaic way of thinking.
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Nope, a photograph is a piece of artistic work. The price of the original (film or RAW) is at least ten fold of a copy so enough cash..

That's a very good reason to avoid participation to some weird "photo contests" as they claim the right to the photos participating the contest which is basicly a scam to get pictures free of charge.

Teddy
 
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