A6000 vs A7 for a newb?

NotAPhotog said:

I'd really like to go with the A7 but the lenses are just too expensive and I'm not willing to use manual focus lenses.

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Why not buy an A7 for FF future proofing, but use it in APS-C mode until you can afford FF lenses?

Assuming you don't want state of the art - an A6300 is similar cost subject to deals but with better AF. And if APSC lens selection is a concern note you can use FF lenses on APSC bodies...

NotAPhotog said:

Maybe I should go with a DSLR. An entry level compact like the Nikon 5600 with a set of 35/50/85mm primes is probably around the same price as the A7 with kit and 50mm prime, even if the A7 has a better sensor.

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Indeed, for a newb a D3300 - cheap - is an excellent place to learn. Because you won't really know what you want until you try a few photo lessons out...

NotAPhotog said:

Thanks for the suggestion but not a fan of MFT. The A6000 has more MP, bigger sensor and more dynamic range. Its just physics.

The A6000 will be 4 years old soon, and I get the feeling that an iPhone X would take similar photos. Maybe an a6300?

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I own an iPhone X, an A6000 and an A7II.

The X has a great camera, but Isn’t close to the A6000 in any light. And the A7/A7II blow both away in low light.

isvana said:

NotAPhotog said:

I'd really like to go with the A7 but the lenses are just too expensive and I'm not willing to use manual focus lenses.

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Why not buy an A7 for FF future proofing, but use it in APS-C mode until you can afford FF lenses?

Assuming you don't want state of the art - an A6300 is similar cost subject to deals but with better AF. And if APSC lens selection is a concern note you can use FF lenses on APSC bodies...

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The A7 is a few product cycles old at this point, which hardly qualifies it as "future proof".

Buying the A7 then using it in APS-C mode is just shooting myself in the foot and is completely pointless. Consider that, in APS-C mode, I get a whopping 10 megapixel resolution on a $1000 full frame camera, with E-mount lenses bought with my money which could've gone towards FE lens instead.

What terrible advice, I can't believe such a thing could even be suggested.

isvana said:

isvana said:

Maybe I should go with a DSLR. An entry level compact like the Nikon 5600 with a set of 35/50/85mm primes is probably around the same price as the A7 with kit and 50mm prime, even if the A7 has a better sensor.

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Indeed, for a newb a D3300 - cheap - is an excellent place to learn. Because you won't really know what you want until you try a few photo lessons out...

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First, I'm not going to pay anyone to teach me how to shoot, so there will be no "photo lessons".

Also, I don't see why the D3300 is even relevant to the discussion when I've already stated that I would consider a D5600 at the very least and the D7200 as well, which is a few steps up from the D3300. The D3300 is outperformed by the A6000 just about in every way and really is a step backwards.

It really does pay to do your own research.

If you’re considering the A6300, do seriously consider stretching to the A6500 unless you always use a tripod in low light, because the majority of recent lens releases are unstabilised eg Sigma 16/1.4, Sigma 30/1.4, Sony FE 85/1.8, and Sigma’s upcoming 55/1.4 or similar likely will be too.

The stabilisation allows you to use eg ISO 800-1600 instead of 6400 in low light for stationary subjects, which has a big impact on IQ. It’s also a lot easier to use telephoto lenses like the 85/1.8 with stabilisation, and if you went for the A6300 and wanted a stabilised 85 you would then need to go for the Batis which is much more expensive with minimal difference in IQ to the FE 85.

That is not entirely true. I can carry the a6000 with 16-70 a prime (mostly the 50f1.8 or sometimes the sigma 30f1.4) and a couple of battries a small bag and still have space for a bottle of water, a tablet and some other stuff. My friends with DSLR are way bigger, even APSC ones. I have no disadvantage on IQ. Since my system is smaller and lighter, I can carry it all day.

You can upgrade in the future to an a7 or a6500 when you have more experience. I would suggest the 50mm f1.8 to experiment with apertures and other camera settings. If you have a budget beyond a 1000, I would suggest to skip the 16-50 and get either the 16-70 or 18-105.

Most of the time this statement annoyed me, how on earth where they are talking of camera and someone will be talking of phones? In fact this is ridiculous statement. I think this forum is for professional or people with image sensor understanding.