If you wanted to replicate this shot, which lens would you use?

Hello!

What would you estimate the subject distance to have been in the originally posted (from what I have just read below FF, 135mm lens)?

My own guess would be around 6m, given it is a full width image being shown (not cropped horizontally).

Best,

Alex
 
1. Panasonic 200m f2.8

2. Olympus 75mm f1.8

3. Sigma 60mm f2.8 (3 meters away at f2.8 would give 20mm DOF. To me the camera looks about 3 meters away. Going to try it out later. I assume the bokeh will be too small but will be interesting to put these numbers into facts.)
 
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Re: "As the lenses focal length gets shorter and subject distance decreases you start to exaggerate facial features and the camera is much more " in the face " of the subject"

Well, you can say that about the 25mm f/1.4, for sure, but the 42.5mm has an equivalent angle of view as an 85mm lens on full frame. That's portrait length. I have the 42.5mm f/1.7 and I don't think it could be accused of enlarging a nose particularly.

I suppose I should post an example. I'll try to find one and I'll come back and post it.
 
Rokinon 50mm 1.2

Rokinon 50mm 1.2

Rokinon 50mm 1.2
 
Meh, you could shoot something like that with nearly anything. The background slopes down behind the subject, so it's not like you need a particularly shallow DOF to shoot something along these lines. Why do you want to duplicate this anyway? Shoot something of your own that's better than this utterly uninteresting composition.
 
Hello!

Thanks! Posted a few numbers (taken drom HyperFocal Pro) below, calculating with a 5m subject distance.

Best,

Alex
 
Hello!

Just double checked (two calculators) and 3m subject distance with 60mm lens on MFT set to f/2.8 should give 0.21m (=21cm) of depth of field.

Best,

Alex
 
Hello!

Yes, developing a style of one's own is best for sure.

No, you could not take that shot with a wide angle or normal lens (different perspective).

And no, you definitely need a smooth rendering wide aperture, because if you look at the image you see rhe boy sitting amongst grass/bushes, also building up directly behind him. This could turn into a bloody mess with a lot of lenses.

Best,

Alex
 
A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .

http://www.master-insight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6976.jpg

So an exact copy of the image in m43 you would need a 65mm F/1.0 which is hard to come by,. So I would go with the 75mm F/1.8
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjsterg/
 
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Hello!

You gave a great summary!

Like you wrote, it all comes down to deciding between how little DOF you want on your subject or how blurry you want your backround to look (with slightly changed perspective).

In a post below I showed some numbers for trying to match the first part (shallow DOF).

Best,

Alex
 
A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .

http://www.master-insight.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_6976.jpg

So an exact copy of the image in m43 you would need a 65mm F/1.0 which is hard to come by,. So I would go with the 75mm F/1.8
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.
 
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.
So you just need to adapt a huge { by comparison to native 45mm{ ish } portrait lenses } manual lens add it to an adapter because the set up is not big enough already :-) . I was of course referring to native lenses :-) Though your solution is pretty cool
Meh, it's about as bad as the olympus pro primes or the voigtlanders I guess.

I'm doing video mostly anyway, so the camera is in a rig which is sitting on another rig, hanging by a 3rd rig and so forth. Lens size is the least of my problems lol.
 
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.
So you just need to adapt a huge { by comparison to native 45mm{ ish } portrait lenses } manual lens add it to an adapter because the set up is not big enough already :-) . I was of course referring to native lenses :-) Though your solution is pretty cool
Meh, it's about as bad as the olympus pro primes or the voigtlanders I guess.

I'm doing video mostly anyway, so the camera is in a rig which is sitting on another rig, hanging by a 3rd rig and so forth. Lens size is the least of my problems lol.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjsterg/
Early on in my m43 adventure I had a wee go with adapters { I have an embarrassing selection of Nikon lenses very old ,old and new :-) } but with my main shooting interests being at the wider end it was pretty much pointless. Though I have had some fun with an old AIS 300mm F/2.8. I shoot a good amount of video and use manual focus anyway so maybe I should blow the dust off the adapter and try it out :-)

GX8 + 300mm F/2.8 AIS Isle of May , Scotland



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Jim Stirling
 
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.
So you just need to adapt a huge { by comparison to native 45mm{ ish } portrait lenses } manual lens add it to an adapter because the set up is not big enough already :-) . I was of course referring to native lenses :-) Though your solution is pretty cool
Meh, it's about as bad as the olympus pro primes or the voigtlanders I guess.

I'm doing video mostly anyway, so the camera is in a rig which is sitting on another rig, hanging by a 3rd rig and so forth. Lens size is the least of my problems lol.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjsterg/
Early on in my m43 adventure I had a wee go with adapters { I have an embarrassing selection of Nikon lenses very old ,old and new :-) } but with my main shooting interests being at the wider end it was pretty much pointless. Though I have had some fun with an old AIS 300mm F/2.8. I shoot a good amount of video and use manual focus anyway so maybe I should blow the dust off the adapter and try it out :-)

GX8 + 300mm F/2.8 AIS Isle of May , Scotland

674af9a66f884da8a5d6baa454475ee5.jpg

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Jim Stirling
That is superb... great portrait!

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M43 equivalence: "Twice the fun with half the weight"
"You are a long time dead" -
Credit to whoever said that first and my wife for saying it to me. Make the best you can of every day!
 
Not that hard to come by really. My trusty Samyang 85/1.4 ($200ish, nikon mount) on the Viltrox NF-M43X ($75ish) gives me a 60mm f/1.0 for under $300 that's optically superb really. Probably not as good as the Canon 135/2, but more than good enough.
So you just need to adapt a huge { by comparison to native 45mm{ ish } portrait lenses } manual lens add it to an adapter because the set up is not big enough already :-) . I was of course referring to native lenses :-) Though your solution is pretty cool
Meh, it's about as bad as the olympus pro primes or the voigtlanders I guess.

I'm doing video mostly anyway, so the camera is in a rig which is sitting on another rig, hanging by a 3rd rig and so forth. Lens size is the least of my problems lol.

--
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jjsterg/
Early on in my m43 adventure I had a wee go with adapters { I have an embarrassing selection of Nikon lenses very old ,old and new :-) } but with my main shooting interests being at the wider end it was pretty much pointless. Though I have had some fun with an old AIS 300mm F/2.8. I shoot a good amount of video and use manual focus anyway so maybe I should blow the dust off the adapter and try it out :-)

GX8 + 300mm F/2.8 AIS Isle of May , Scotland

674af9a66f884da8a5d6baa454475ee5.jpg

--
Jim Stirling
That is superb... great portrait!

--
M43 equivalence: "Twice the fun with half the weight"
"You are a long time dead" -
Credit to whoever said that first and my wife for saying it to me. Make the best you can of every day!
It was a lot easier trying to catch the birds on the ground :-)

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Jim Stirling
 
You can do this shot for under $450. Refurbished D3300 $295 & 50mm 1.8 $149. Shoot at f2-2.8 depending on your subject distance. No need to buy an expensive m4/3 lens. LMAO!

Seriously though, the foreground and background blur does not look natural. That blur was likely done in post processing.
I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.

Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.

Three part question:

1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?

2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?

3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?

Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.

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You can do this shot for under $450. Refurbished D3300 $295 & 50mm 1.8 $149. Shoot at f2-2.8 depending on your subject distance. No need to buy an expensive m4/3 lens. LMAO!

Seriously though, the foreground and background blur does not look natural. That blur was likely done in post processing.
I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.

Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.

Three part question:

1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?

2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?

3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?

Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.

7fa1e368fe8842a98ae5a3c7be8585e2.jpg
Nothing much happening on the Nikon forums at the moment?

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M43 equivalence: "Twice the fun with half the weight"
"You are a long time dead" -
Credit to whoever said that first and my wife for saying it to me. Make the best you can of every day!
 

This made the Top Threads on the main DPR page, all I read here. This place is purely entertainment value for me anymore. You may have broken a record defending your m4/3 choice in under 2 minutes. LMAO!

If you looked at my gear list I shoot both 1" and DX/FF, both have their strengths.

This is a REALLY easy shot. Hardest part of this shot is to get the child to cooperate.

What is wrong with pointing you can do this shot for under $500? You don't need a $1000+ 1.2 lens,
You can do this shot for under $450. Refurbished D3300 $295 & 50mm 1.8 $149. Shoot at f2-2.8 depending on your subject distance. No need to buy an expensive m4/3 lens. LMAO!

Seriously though, the foreground and background blur does not look natural. That blur was likely done in post processing.
I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.

Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.

Three part question:

1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?

2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?

3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?

Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.

7fa1e368fe8842a98ae5a3c7be8585e2.jpg
Nothing much happening on the Nikon forums at the moment?

--
M43 equivalence: "Twice the fun with half the weight"
"You are a long time dead" -
Credit to whoever said that first and my wife for saying it to me. Make the best you can of every day!
 
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