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If you wanted to replicate this shot, which lens would you use?
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drj3
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Assuming this is not a cropped image, the subject distance was approximately 15 feet with a DOF of .44, so I would use the Olympus 45 f1.2 at 9 feet for a depth of field of .43 feet for approximately the same image height.
Robiro
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Not true.
Using your DOF calculator reveals that Oly 40-150mm @ f2.8, 150mm has a shallower DOF compared to Oly 75mm f1.8. At twice the distance from the subject of course. But the background is definitely more out of focus. That is what the calculator says.
Robiro
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Thanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
Meaning, Panasonic 200mm f2.8 might be actually able to pull this off, if shot wide open at about twice the distance.
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samtheman2014
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bah humbugThanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
There is of course the lovely Olympus FT 150mm F/2
I am sure you could but that lenses makes the F/1.2 lenses look an absolute bargain
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Robiro
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But then the question was: "Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?"There is of course the lovely Olympus FT 150mm F/2
Panda Monkey
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That sounds about right, but when working with my daughter I'd prefer to be a lot closerThanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
Meaning, Panasonic 200mm f2.8 might be actually able to pull this off, if shot wide open at about twice the distance.
And have money left over for a college fund!
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brianric
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I haven't checked the DOF simulator but if I want to completely blur the background like a FF camera I can use my NX1 with the 85mm f1.4.Thanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
samtheman2014
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Ah well there is thatBut then the question was: "Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?"There is of course the lovely Olympus FT 150mm F/2
You could always get a Samyang 135mm f/2 with EF mount and use it on MFT, Sony and Canon bodies. You would have to stand further away for MFT of course. Solves the college fund problem.That sounds about right, but when working with my daughter I'd prefer to be a lot closerThanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
Meaning, Panasonic 200mm f2.8 might be actually able to pull this off, if shot wide open at about twice the distance.
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samtheman2014
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I still can’t believe that Samsung bailed on their mirrorless system. The NX1 was/is a superb camera with a sensor performance that managed to compete with the best Sony had to offer and a raft of excellent features. It was the first APS camera I was considering in a long timeI haven't checked the DOF simulator but if I want to completely blur the background like a FF camera I can use my NX1 with the 85mm f1.4.Thanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
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Jim Stirling
drj3
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The image height is about 2.6 feet, given that the subject has an average size head. You would need to be 40 feet away with the 200mm for that image height and would then have a DOF at f2.8 over twice as deep as a 135 f2 on a FF from 15 feet.That sounds about right, but when working with my daughter I'd prefer to be a lot closerThanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
Meaning, Panasonic 200mm f2.8 might be actually able to pull this off, if shot wide open at about twice the distance.
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Robiro
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I would use Canon 135mm f2.0 with a Speedbooster...
Robiro
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DOF calculator says:
6D, 135mm, f2.0 = depth of field 2 cm at 2 m distance
GH4, 200mm, f2.8 = depth of field 3 cm at 4 m distance
Quite close.
Panda Monkey
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Thanks for all the suggestions. You have helped make my decision quite a bit easier.
Chuck Liddell
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There is also added blurring done in post on that image. I have watched a few videos on getting that effect in post without the use of fast glass. The results can come out very close with cheap lenses.
Skeeterbytes
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In my kit five lenses come to mind: 75/1.8, 4/3 35-100/2.0, 4/3 150/2.0, adapted MF 50/1.4, adapted MF 85/1.4.
Because lens rendering is unique to each one cannot dial up a set of specs to replicate one, but parsing DoF tables you can get in the ballpark then look for something with similar focus rolloff and bokeh. You also must consider contrast and saturation in addition to resolution.
Cheers,
Rick
Because lens rendering is unique to each one cannot dial up a set of specs to replicate one, but parsing DoF tables you can get in the ballpark then look for something with similar focus rolloff and bokeh. You also must consider contrast and saturation in addition to resolution.
Cheers,
Rick
Adrian Harris
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Sadly the 100-400 is over $1000, but i do own one and it is excellent for this type of shallow DoF shot.
brianric
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The only reason why I kept the NX1 was because I have the 85 mm/1.4. NX1 is poor on action due to severe EVF lag. Other than that I loved the camera.I still can’t believe that Samsung bailed on their mirrorless system. The NX1 was/is a superb camera with a sensor performance that managed to compete with the best Sony had to offer and a raft of excellent features. It was the first APS camera I was considering in a long timeI haven't checked the DOF simulator but if I want to completely blur the background like a FF camera I can use my NX1 with the 85mm f1.4.Thanks for spoiling the fun....A quick search of google for the images shows it was taken with a Canon 135mm F/2.0l on a 6D wide open at 125ISO .I'm having a really hard time trying to decide which lens to get next. :-D I'm hoping maybe you guys and gals can help.
Please make your selections based only on the photo below, placing a high value on sharpness and shallow DoF, and not the versatility of the individual lenses.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
Anyway. I tried the DOF simulator and 150mm f2.8 on a m43 camera came quite close to 135mm f2.0 on a FF camera.
Paulmorgan
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A 5D and a 135 f2.
Three part question:
1. Of all the MFT lenses available, which would you use?
2. Of all the MFT lenses available under $1000 US, which would you use?
3. Of the lenses you own, which would you use?
Please feel free to include your aperture, focal length and shutter speed choices.
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