The COOLEST feature I discovered in my K1!

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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It is a good feature. All Pentax DSLRs have had this for a least a few years.

My K-5IIS. All my Fujis. I think this is pretty much standard with most modern cameras. And yes, it's awesome and very useful.

I think this has been around for quite a while. I always liked it. Now with mirrorless EVF you pretty much get it in real time, but in those days it was nice to see what a change would do the next shot. Also, if I remember correctly, on at least my K7 or K5, and maybe the earlier ones too, you could actually change the last shot you took if you wanted to. I only shoot JPG, but I think it still worked (I think it saved the RAW until you took the next shot I guess).

yardcoyote said:

My K-5IIS. All my Fujis. I think this is pretty much standard with most modern cameras. And yes, it's awesome and very useful.

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Which fujis? I have a XT1 and I have never seen the changes as im doing the adjustments, except the film simulations.

I'm really enjoying the color tones out of the K1 and I will say that I'm seeing some really pleasant pastel tones as well. I was bored and took the K1 to the mall to take a few photos here and there with the 24-70. It is indeed a very fine camera.

I will say that I haven't used a zoom lens in many years and I kind of feel weird at times and I'm not used to it specially when I got so used to using Fuji prime lenses. I'm really starting to crave the sigma 35 1.4 art for pentax mount. You just cannot compare the look of a 2.8 zoom vs a 1.4 prime and the K1 deserves the best

Pretty sure they all do it with WB also. Got my X100T here-- lemme check ...

My bad! My X100T does it with the live view, not the previous shot, and I think the other Fujis do the same. This is equally useful from my point of view, but not exactly the same. My K-5IIS works the way you describe the function of your K-1.

Works only after a picture has been taken. If you just power-on the cam it works with a grey background, on my K-1

WB? Tone? What? Not interested at all

RAW

Pentax produces "Fuji film like" colors? Well, yes, very very close. I will say 97% match. Of course you have to consider that I'm shooting with a pentax 24-70 which it doesn't have the same glass coatings as a Fuji lens such as the amazing Fuji 35 1.4 that I shot with so much and loved very much.

Never the less the K1 can also produce very nice smooth and pleasant colors as well, and I'm very very pleased with it. Other camera manufacturers have either a too bland not so great looking color that is missing something, or a too "digital" or too sharp look. Again, from what my eyes can see, the K1 produces very fine colors.

Great job pentax engineers!

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

left eye said:

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

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Oh cool! Thanks for the tip.

I'll have to experiment with the extra sharp setting, but do you find a big difference from the other less sharp settings?

Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

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Oh cool! Thanks for the tip.

I'll have to experiment with the extra sharp setting, but do you find a big difference from the other less sharp settings?

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YES. I've been recommending extra-sharp to all Pentax photographers for years (as with other jpeg settings it of course doesn't affect the raw output).

The term 'extra-sharp' is off-putting, who wants extra sharp?!, anyway it's just a name.

First go into the custom menu of the NR settings, for 100 - 1600 ISO enter 0 NR, then gradually step it up - not much though. Ok now shoot at your normal ISO, 100, 200 or 400 ISO, basically so you know NR should be off.

Now let me simplify what's going on with the 3 sharpening algorithms...

Standard Sharpening : Radius of about 1.5 pixels (will show halo/bounce on edges), NR will in fact be + 2 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +2 is added, so NR is actually on 2 even though you've set it to '0' off, fine details will be smeared away).

Fine Sharpening : Radius of about 1 pixel (will show halo/bounce on high contrast edges), NR will in fact be + 1 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +1 is added, so NR is actually on 1 even though you've set it to '0' off).

Extra Sharpening : Radius of about 0.5 pixels (will show no halo/bounce on edges), NR is now + 0, so really is as you set it 'off' - you will now see grain/noise (but that's ok in my book, as you'll also see maximum fine textural detail). With all this detail you may want to dial sharpening down to '-2', experiment with the level you like. This is the closest you'll get to raw processing in ACR/LR.

left eye said:

Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

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Oh cool! Thanks for the tip.

I'll have to experiment with the extra sharp setting, but do you find a big difference from the other less sharp settings?

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YES. I've been recommending extra-sharp to all Pentax photographers for years (as with other jpeg settings it of course doesn't affect the raw output).

The term 'extra-sharp' is off-putting, who wants extra sharp?!, anyway it's just a name.

First go into the custom menu of the NR settings, for 100 - 1600 ISO enter 0 NR, then gradually step it up - not much though. Ok now shoot at your normal ISO, 100, 200 or 400 ISO, basically so you know NR should be off.

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Sorry I can't seem to find those NR settings in the custom menu. How on earth do I get there or where is it? :-(

left eye said:

Now let me simplify what's going on with the 3 sharpening algorithms...

Standard Sharpening : Radius of about 1.5 pixels (will show halo/bounce on edges), NR will in fact be + 2 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +2 is added, so NR is actually on 2 even though you've set it to '0' off, fine details will be smeared away).

Fine Sharpening : Radius of about 1 pixel (will show halo/bounce on high contrast edges), NR will in fact be + 1 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +1 is added, so NR is actually on 1 even though you've set it to '0' off).

Extra Sharpening : Radius of about 0.5 pixels (will show no halo/bounce on edges), NR is now + 0, so really is as you set it 'off' - you will now see grain/noise (but that's ok in my book, as you'll also see maximum fine textural detail). With all this detail you may want to dial sharpening down to '-2', experiment with the level you like. This is the closest you'll get to raw processing in ACR/LR.

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Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

Click to expand...

My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

Click to expand...

Oh cool! Thanks for the tip.

I'll have to experiment with the extra sharp setting, but do you find a big difference from the other less sharp settings?

Click to expand...

YES. I've been recommending extra-sharp to all Pentax photographers for years (as with other jpeg settings it of course doesn't affect the raw output).

The term 'extra-sharp' is off-putting, who wants extra sharp?!, anyway it's just a name.

First go into the custom menu of the NR settings, for 100 - 1600 ISO enter 0 NR, then gradually step it up - not much though. Ok now shoot at your normal ISO, 100, 200 or 400 ISO, basically so you know NR should be off.

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Sorry I can't seem to find those NR settings in the custom menu. How on earth do I get there or where is it? :-(

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Page 49 of the manual,


'Camera 2' menu > Noise Reduction > High-ISO NR > Custom

(even though it says 'High-ISO', choosing 'custom' lets you set up all ISO's, low to high)

Batdude said:

Batdude said:

Now let me simplify what's going on with the 3 sharpening algorithms...

Standard Sharpening : Radius of about 1.5 pixels (will show halo/bounce on edges), NR will in fact be + 2 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +2 is added, so NR is actually on 2 even though you've set it to '0' off, fine details will be smeared away).

Fine Sharpening : Radius of about 1 pixel (will show halo/bounce on high contrast edges), NR will in fact be + 1 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +1 is added, so NR is actually on 1 even though you've set it to '0' off).

Extra Sharpening : Radius of about 0.5 pixels (will show no halo/bounce on edges), NR is now + 0, so really is as you set it 'off' - you will now see grain/noise (but that's ok in my book, as you'll also see maximum fine textural detail). With all this detail you may want to dial sharpening down to '-2', experiment with the level you like. This is the closest you'll get to raw processing in ACR/LR.

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Page 66 of the manual (linked above) describes how to choose Extra-Sharp with the rear-thumb dial.

Downloading the manual, then making a search, always helps, - as does asking here on these forums, but the manual may give you a quicker answer.

left eye said:

Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

left eye said:

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

Click to expand...

My K-5 does this but only with the last picture just taken. It won't pull the last photo stored in the sd card, has to be just freshly taken and still in the camera's processing engine.

It was a great feature, I say 'was' as now I only shoot raw.

While you are testing K-1 jpeg settings try, extra-sharp. My K-5 had standard, fine and extra, choosen with the rear thumb dial. I. believe the K-1 has the same. Choose 'extra' then dial the amount down a touch, try -2 to start. Next turn off NR for all low to medium ISO's (within another menu). Now look at pixel level at the results, you should see sharpening at a very tight radius, no halos or bounce artefacts, also no smearing away of fine detail.

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Got it! I'll check the images when I get home.

left eye said:

left eye said:

left eye said:

left eye said:

Oh cool! Thanks for the tip.

I'll have to experiment with the extra sharp setting, but do you find a big difference from the other less sharp settings?

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YES. I've been recommending extra-sharp to all Pentax photographers for years (as with other jpeg settings it of course doesn't affect the raw output).

The term 'extra-sharp' is off-putting, who wants extra sharp?!, anyway it's just a name.

First go into the custom menu of the NR settings, for 100 - 1600 ISO enter 0 NR, then gradually step it up - not much though. Ok now shoot at your normal ISO, 100, 200 or 400 ISO, basically so you know NR should be off.

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Let me make sure I understand this. When you say enter 0 NR are you saying to turn it off?

Also, what difference do you find if you just go to the NR setting and select OFF vs going to the custom setting and selecting every NR ISO setting to OFF as well? Does one look better than the other?

Whenever I have time I would like to mess around more with this and take shots and compare to see with my own eyes but for now I'll just ask you here

left eye said:

left eye said:

Sorry I can't seem to find those NR settings in the custom menu. How on earth do I get there or where is it? :-(

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Page 49 of the manual,

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/en/digital-slr/downloads/PENTAX-K-1-DSLR.html

'Camera 2' menu > Noise Reduction > High-ISO NR > Custom

(even though it says 'High-ISO', choosing 'custom' lets you set up all ISO's, low to high)

left eye said:

left eye said:

Now let me simplify what's going on with the 3 sharpening algorithms...

Standard Sharpening : Radius of about 1.5 pixels (will show halo/bounce on edges), NR will in fact be + 2 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +2 is added, so NR is actually on 2 even though you've set it to '0' off, fine details will be smeared away).

Fine Sharpening : Radius of about 1 pixel (will show halo/bounce on high contrast edges), NR will in fact be + 1 (i.e. on top of your 0 NR, +1 is added, so NR is actually on 1 even though you've set it to '0' off).

Extra Sharpening : Radius of about 0.5 pixels (will show no halo/bounce on edges), NR is now + 0, so really is as you set it 'off' - you will now see grain/noise (but that's ok in my book, as you'll also see maximum fine textural detail). With all this detail you may want to dial sharpening down to '-2', experiment with the level you like. This is the closest you'll get to raw processing in ACR/LR.

Click to expand...

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Page 66 of the manual (linked above) describes how to choose Extra-Sharp with the rear-thumb dial.

Downloading the manual, then making a search, always helps, - as does asking here on these forums, but the manual may give you a quicker answer.

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I hardly NEVER ever shoot in very slow shutter speeds but I just discovered how fun and how good in-camera stabilization feature really is. I went to the Los Angeles Zoo and started playing around with this feature and I really like it. It is very useful. Could I get some of these shots taken HAND HELD at 1/10 with a camera or lens with no stabilization? Probably not. What kind of camera company provides a 36MP and up sensor with no IBIS? That's just plain dumb IMHO.

I keep discovering more cool features and I'm starting to appreciate this camera more and more. Image quality is of course outstanding and color tones are really beautiful. All photos taken with the 24-70. This lens for sure is pretty darn good but I'm still craving the sigma art 35 1.4. I get the feeling that I will really like that lens on this camera. I really miss shooting with more prime lenses.

Just a few samples of the stuff I do.

Batdude said:

I was messing around with my K1 last night and was playing around with the jpeg settings and by pure accident I discovered that while I'm adjusting/controlling the WB and Image Finishing Tones such as NATURAL, PORTRAIT, LANDSCAPE etc, as well as the parameter adjustments like saturation, hue, contrast and the picture I took came up on the screen and I noticed that I can see the actual changes while I'm making the adjustments!

That just blew me away and I think this is freacking awesome!!! Is there another camera from a different brand that can do this?

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It is a nice and really useful feature. although not a very new one. I believe Pentax introduced this for WB adjustments on K10D in 2006. At least it was the first camera I saw it on.

Pentax is good on these small thing that at fitst does not seem like a big deal, but once you get used to them it's difficult to live without.

Most common remark from people looking at my K1 photos is “I love the colours!”