Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART in addition to existing Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8?

vett93 said:

Is it worthwhile to buy Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART? I have been using the Batis 85mm F1.8 since it came out and like it in general. I plan to keep it. It is light weight and relatively compact in size.

Please let me know your thought and logic (or the lack of it). Thanks.

PS. In addition to Batis 85mm F1.8, my portrait lens collections include Sony 35mm F1.4, Sony 50mm F1.4, Sony 135mm F1.8 ZA in A-mount, Sigma 135mm F1.8 ART, and Sigma 20mm F1.4 ART for super wide environment portrait.

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Luis Gabriel Photography said:

vett93 said:

Is it worthwhile to buy Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART? I have been using the Batis 85mm F1.8 since it came out and like it in general. I plan to keep it. It is light weight and relatively compact in size.

Please let me know your thought and logic (or the lack of it). Thanks.

PS. In addition to Batis 85mm F1.8, my portrait lens collections include Sony 35mm F1.4, Sony 50mm F1.4, Sony 135mm F1.8 ZA in A-mount, Sigma 135mm F1.8 ART, and Sigma 20mm F1.4 ART for super wide environment portrait.

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rogerjosem said:

If you are ok with it's size and weight...I love that lens. I have quite a top tier lens arsenal and the Sigma 85 Art is easily one of my very favorites.

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Jeff2013 said:

A little about my history on these lenses.... I acquired the Batis 85 when it was released which I shot until the GM 85mm was released. I liked the bokeh on the GM lens so much better, so I sold the Batis. At the the time, I also shot 5DSR's and I acquired the Sigma ART 85mm for those cameras. I was fairly blown-away by the f1.4 sharpness completely across the field with this lens when also adapted to my A7RII's (for some reason, my experience is different than Luis's). The sharpness held-up when I placed eyes near the edge of the frame... something my GM 85 couldn't do... so I sold the GM 85mm and acquired another Batis 85mm for travel since the ART lens was such a weight/size monster.

When the A9 was released, I was finally able to sell my DSLR's. I decided to go (almost) all native lenses on my A7RII's and A9, so I sold the 85mm ART and re-acquired a GM 85. I mostly use the Sigma 135mm ART for critical portrait work, which gives me the edge-to-edge sharpness, so when I do use the GM 85mm, I am usually happy with it.

For wide-open sharpness/contrast all the way to the corners at f1.4, you just cannot beat the Sigma ART lens, however. I think it makes an outstanding companion to the Batis lens. You can use the Batis for travel and AF-C work and the Sigma for critical AF-S work.

As a note, I found that my experience with these lenses fairly precisely replicated the DXO Field Sharpness Charts for each of them at f1.4/f1.8.

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vett93 said:

Jeff2013 said:

A little about my history on these lenses.... I acquired the Batis 85 when it was released which I shot until the GM 85mm was released. I liked the bokeh on the GM lens so much better, so I sold the Batis. At the the time, I also shot 5DSR's and I acquired the Sigma ART 85mm for those cameras. I was fairly blown-away by the f1.4 sharpness completely across the field with this lens when also adapted to my A7RII's (for some reason, my experience is different than Luis's). The sharpness held-up when I placed eyes near the edge of the frame... something my GM 85 couldn't do... so I sold the GM 85mm and acquired another Batis 85mm for travel since the ART lens was such a weight/size monster.

When the A9 was released, I was finally able to sell my DSLR's. I decided to go (almost) all native lenses on my A7RII's and A9, so I sold the 85mm ART and re-acquired a GM 85. I mostly use the Sigma 135mm ART for critical portrait work, which gives me the edge-to-edge sharpness, so when I do use the GM 85mm, I am usually happy with it.

For wide-open sharpness/contrast all the way to the corners at f1.4, you just cannot beat the Sigma ART lens, however. I think it makes an outstanding companion to the Batis lens. You can use the Batis for travel and AF-C work and the Sigma for critical AF-S work.

As a note, I found that my experience with these lenses fairly precisely replicated the DXO Field Sharpness Charts for each of them at f1.4/f1.8.

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vett93 said:

Luis Gabriel Photography said:

vett93 said:

Is it worthwhile to buy Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART? I have been using the Batis 85mm F1.8 since it came out and like it in general. I plan to keep it. It is light weight and relatively compact in size.

Please let me know your thought and logic (or the lack of it). Thanks.

PS. In addition to Batis 85mm F1.8, my portrait lens collections include Sony 35mm F1.4, Sony 50mm F1.4, Sony 135mm F1.8 ZA in A-mount, Sigma 135mm F1.8 ART, and Sigma 20mm F1.4 ART for super wide environment portrait.

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Jeff2013 said:

vett93 said:

Jeff2013 said:

A little about my history on these lenses.... I acquired the Batis 85 when it was released which I shot until the GM 85mm was released. I liked the bokeh on the GM lens so much better, so I sold the Batis. At the the time, I also shot 5DSR's and I acquired the Sigma ART 85mm for those cameras. I was fairly blown-away by the f1.4 sharpness completely across the field with this lens when also adapted to my A7RII's (for some reason, my experience is different than Luis's). The sharpness held-up when I placed eyes near the edge of the frame... something my GM 85 couldn't do... so I sold the GM 85mm and acquired another Batis 85mm for travel since the ART lens was such a weight/size monster.

When the A9 was released, I was finally able to sell my DSLR's. I decided to go (almost) all native lenses on my A7RII's and A9, so I sold the 85mm ART and re-acquired a GM 85. I mostly use the Sigma 135mm ART for critical portrait work, which gives me the edge-to-edge sharpness, so when I do use the GM 85mm, I am usually happy with it.

For wide-open sharpness/contrast all the way to the corners at f1.4, you just cannot beat the Sigma ART lens, however. I think it makes an outstanding companion to the Batis lens. You can use the Batis for travel and AF-C work and the Sigma for critical AF-S work.

As a note, I found that my experience with these lenses fairly precisely replicated the DXO Field Sharpness Charts for each of them at f1.4/f1.8.

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vett93 said:

Is it worthwhile to buy Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART? I have been using the Batis 85mm F1.8 since it came out and like it in general. I plan to keep it. It is light weight and relatively compact in size.

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Jeff2013 said:

vett93 said:

Jeff2013 said:

A little about my history on these lenses.... I acquired the Batis 85 when it was released which I shot until the GM 85mm was released. I liked the bokeh on the GM lens so much better, so I sold the Batis. At the the time, I also shot 5DSR's and I acquired the Sigma ART 85mm for those cameras. I was fairly blown-away by the f1.4 sharpness completely across the field with this lens when also adapted to my A7RII's (for some reason, my experience is different than Luis's). The sharpness held-up when I placed eyes near the edge of the frame... something my GM 85 couldn't do... so I sold the GM 85mm and acquired another Batis 85mm for travel since the ART lens was such a weight/size monster.

When the A9 was released, I was finally able to sell my DSLR's. I decided to go (almost) all native lenses on my A7RII's and A9, so I sold the 85mm ART and re-acquired a GM 85. I mostly use the Sigma 135mm ART for critical portrait work, which gives me the edge-to-edge sharpness, so when I do use the GM 85mm, I am usually happy with it.

For wide-open sharpness/contrast all the way to the corners at f1.4, you just cannot beat the Sigma ART lens, however. I think it makes an outstanding companion to the Batis lens. You can use the Batis for travel and AF-C work and the Sigma for critical AF-S work.

As a note, I found that my experience with these lenses fairly precisely replicated the DXO Field Sharpness Charts for each of them at f1.4/f1.8.

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Jeff
Florida, USA
http://www.gr8photography.com

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Wow. A long and winding story! A man's pursuit to perfection.

What did you gain with going native and switching from 85mm ART to 85mm GM? If I can afford GM too, which one should I get? Thanks.

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The main thing I gained was better focus performance when my subject is walking or moving. The bokeh is also just a bit smoother with the GM lens, if one is being highly critical. After a couple years of adapting Canon and Sigma lenses, I became a bit tired of the adapted lens compromises and just decided to go 'native' whenever I could. Of course, many photographers are quite happy with adapted lenses, so it is a personal thing.

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Jeff
Florida, USA
http://www.gr8photography.com

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Thanks, Jeff. I thought you stated it in one of your earlier posts regarding GM vs. ART that ART had a better focus speed than GM. I have read similar reviews from others as well. Did I get confused again?

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daran said:

vett93 said:

Is it worthwhile to buy Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART? I have been using the Batis 85mm F1.8 since it came out and like it in general. I plan to keep it. It is light weight and relatively compact in size.

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The GAS is strong with you, young paderwan...

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Jeff2013 said:

vett93 said:

Jeff2013 said:

vett93 said:

Jeff2013 said:

A little about my history on these lenses.... I acquired the Batis 85 when it was released which I shot until the GM 85mm was released. I liked the bokeh on the GM lens so much better, so I sold the Batis. At the the time, I also shot 5DSR's and I acquired the Sigma ART 85mm for those cameras. I was fairly blown-away by the f1.4 sharpness completely across the field with this lens when also adapted to my A7RII's (for some reason, my experience is different than Luis's). The sharpness held-up when I placed eyes near the edge of the frame... something my GM 85 couldn't do... so I sold the GM 85mm and acquired another Batis 85mm for travel since the ART lens was such a weight/size monster.

When the A9 was released, I was finally able to sell my DSLR's. I decided to go (almost) all native lenses on my A7RII's and A9, so I sold the 85mm ART and re-acquired a GM 85. I mostly use the Sigma 135mm ART for critical portrait work, which gives me the edge-to-edge sharpness, so when I do use the GM 85mm, I am usually happy with it.

For wide-open sharpness/contrast all the way to the corners at f1.4, you just cannot beat the Sigma ART lens, however. I think it makes an outstanding companion to the Batis lens. You can use the Batis for travel and AF-C work and the Sigma for critical AF-S work.

As a note, I found that my experience with these lenses fairly precisely replicated the DXO Field Sharpness Charts for each of them at f1.4/f1.8.

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rogerjosem said:

If you are ok with it's size and weight...I love that lens. I have quite a top tier lens arsenal and the Sigma 85 Art is easily one of my very favorites.

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