Best cheap Canon flash?

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I am a student photographer who has been learning and practicing photography for over 3 years now. I own a Canon t3i, a kit standard zoom, a cheap Canon 75-300, and I recently bought a 50 1.4. I want to start learning how to take good portraits, and am interested in purchasing an flash that has advanced controls but is easy to learn with. I am mostly going to be doing outdoor portraits. What cheap flash, and any other gear (e.g. diffusers, reflectors, etc.), would you recommend? I am willing to spend about $90 for everything.

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get a youngnuo 600 ex rt it is the best and is comparable to the official canon one. it goes for about 100$ on B and H
 
I am a student photographer who has been learning and practicing photography for over 3 years now. I own a Canon t3i, a kit standard zoom, a cheap Canon 75-300, and I recently bought a 50 1.4. I want to start learning how to take good portraits, and am interested in purchasing an flash that has advanced controls but is easy to learn with. I am mostly going to be doing outdoor portraits. What cheap flash, and any other gear (e.g. diffusers, reflectors, etc.), would you recommend? I am willing to spend about $90 for everything.
You need to double your budget. At least.

The cheapest good flash you can probably get for off-camera usage would be a Godox TT600 ($65). But a basic off-camera light setup requires more: a light stand (to hold the flash), umbrella swivel (to connect the flash and umbrella to the stand), umbrella (to soften the light from the flash), and on-camera radio transmitter are probably going to cost you another $120 (say, $40 for the stand, $20 for the swivel, $20 for the umbrella, $40 for the transmitter). And with this combination, you'll be giving up TTL or being able to use the T3i's pop-up flash as an optical master. And a manual-only flash truly sucks for on-camera run'n'gun event shooting/bounce. A Godox TT685-C would be a better buy for a first/only speedlight, and that's around $100. There's also the XPro-C transmitter, which has a much nicer UI than the X1T, but it's $70 not $45.

Godox, in my opinion, is a much better choice than Yongnuo. Yongnuo's three radio triggering systems (-RT, 622, and 560/60x) are all (mostly) incompatible with each other. You can't mix TTL and manual-only gear, and you have no expansion options that allow you to remote control the flash's power and settings other than other speedlights. Also, their cheap manual-only option (YN-660 + YN-560-TX) won't give you HSS, the way a Godox TT600+X1T would.

HSS is where you can use a shutter speed with flash that's over the camera body's sync speed (typically 1/250s for a crop body). When you're shooting outside in brighter sunlight and you want a thin DoF, it's kind of hard to do that with a shutter speed of 1/250s or slower.

Godox also supports five camera systems (Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fuji, micro four-thirds) not just two (Yongnuo only supports Canon/Nikon), has an integrated system of triggers and lights ranging all the way from mini speedlights up to full on studio strobes. The future expansion options are better than Yongnuo's. And if you buy the gear in its Flashpoint R2 incarnations, then you're dealing with Adorama in NYC for support, not Godox or Yongnuo in Shenzhen China.
 
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The cheapest good flash you can probably get for off-camera usage would be a Godox TT600 ($65). But a basic off-camera light setup requires more: a light stand (to hold the flash), umbrella swivel (to connect the flash and umbrella to the stand), umbrella (to soften the light from the flash), and on-camera radio transmitter are probably going to cost you another $120 (say, $40 for the stand, $20 for the swivel, $20 for the umbrella, $40 for the transmitter). And with this combination, you'll be giving up TTL or being able to use the T3i's pop-up flash as an optical master. And a manual-only flash truly sucks for on-camera run'n'gun event shooting/bounce. A Godox TT685-C would be a better buy for a first/only speedlight, and that's around $100. There's also the XPro-C transmitter, which has a much nicer UI than the X1T, but it's $70 not $45.
I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on lighting - I'm not planning to do anything serious with it - but thanks for all your recommendations. As for the speedlight, would you recommend buying a softbox or other diffuser for it?
 
The cheapest good flash you can probably get for off-camera usage would be a Godox TT600 ($65). But a basic off-camera light setup requires more: a light stand (to hold the flash), umbrella swivel (to connect the flash and umbrella to the stand), umbrella (to soften the light from the flash), and on-camera radio transmitter are probably going to cost you another $120 (say, $40 for the stand, $20 for the swivel, $20 for the umbrella, $40 for the transmitter). And with this combination, you'll be giving up TTL or being able to use the T3i's pop-up flash as an optical master. And a manual-only flash truly sucks for on-camera run'n'gun event shooting/bounce. A Godox TT685-C would be a better buy for a first/only speedlight, and that's around $100. There's also the XPro-C transmitter, which has a much nicer UI than the X1T, but it's $70 not $45.
I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on lighting - I'm not planning to do anything serious with it - but thanks for all your recommendations. As for the speedlight, would you recommend buying a softbox or other diffuser for it?
depends, ask in the lighting / flash section

I would recommend starting with a used Canon 430exII (around $100)
 
The cheapest good flash you can probably get for off-camera usage would be a Godox TT600 ($65). But a basic off-camera light setup requires more: a light stand (to hold the flash), umbrella swivel (to connect the flash and umbrella to the stand), umbrella (to soften the light from the flash), and on-camera radio transmitter are probably going to cost you another $120 (say, $40 for the stand, $20 for the swivel, $20 for the umbrella, $40 for the transmitter). And with this combination, you'll be giving up TTL or being able to use the T3i's pop-up flash as an optical master. And a manual-only flash truly sucks for on-camera run'n'gun event shooting/bounce. A Godox TT685-C would be a better buy for a first/only speedlight, and that's around $100. There's also the XPro-C transmitter, which has a much nicer UI than the X1T, but it's $70 not $45.
I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on lighting - I'm not planning to do anything serious with it - but thanks for all your recommendations. As for the speedlight, would you recommend buying a softbox or other diffuser for it?
OK, you're killing us here with that budget. But many of us were poor students at one time too. :)

Get a cheap flash, it must have a bounce head (tilts and rotates). a TT685 would be terrific, a TT350 would be OK, a manual flash only if there's no other choice.

Learn how to bounce (no softbox or diffusers needed):




Example of bounce flash.





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Lance H
 
... I'm not sure I want to spend that much money on lighting - I'm not planning to do anything serious with it - but thanks for all your recommendations.
Just saying. Flash can be far more transformative to your photography than a new lens. It might make sense to budget accordingly. $200 is peanuts compared to most photography equipment. And the pieces I mentioned are the bare minimum at the lower-end prices. A $25 Amazon Basics flash will be manual-only, won't have a built-in radio trigger (so you'll have to probably pay another $20-$40 to add one on; at which point the $65 of the TT600 looks pretty similar), and its build reliability might not be so good (a ton of 1-star reviews on Amazon mention the flash tube blowing quickly).

In 2006, it used to cost you $200 just for the radio triggers and they never came built-in. :)
As for the speedlight, would you recommend buying a softbox or other diffuser for it?
Well, a softbox is going to easily cost double what an umbrella would. (Say, $45-$60 for a cheap Chinese-made one vs. $20 for the umbrella). That's why an umbrella tends to be the default recommendation and why I added it to the list of things you need. Again, check out this Strobist link to see how it all goes together. With a Godox TT600/TT685, you won't need the radio receiver, because it's built-in. You could try starting out with a tripod instead of a lightstand; as long as the swivel/adapter comes with the spigot, it'll attach to anything with a 1/4"x20 thread. But lightstands are better, because light tends to comes from overhead, and tripods rarely go that high. You could DIY a clamp, but...better to start off with the proper tool.

I do often prefer a softbox to an umbrella because it's easier to control the spill and to use the edge of the softbox to feather the light (create a gradient in the falloff), but. It's just a different look from an umbrella. You kind of generally want both, not one or the other. The main issue is finding out what size you need. A smaller 24"x24" softbox is only going to be good for head or torso shots.

An umbrella can be used either a shoot through or reflective, and is much easier/faster to set up, so it's a more versatile and cheaper way to start out than a softbox.

Modifiers are kind of like lenses: which ones you want depends on what you want the light to look like and what you plan to do.

The only other no-brainer modifier, aside from an umbrella, that I can recommend is Neil van Niekerk's "black foamie thing", which is a small sheet of black craft foam that you use to flag off direct light coming from your flash when you bounce (i.e., aim the head of the flash at a reflective surface and use that as your light source for a softer/more diffused look). Costs about $1 at Michael's for the sheet of craft foam, and you probably already have rubber bands around the house. :)
 
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