Reading mode: Light Dark

Photoshop! why not Paint shop pro

Go to last post
C

Chris 749

Well-known member
Messages
202
Reaction score
0
Location
US
Hi.

As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop. I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
 
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
The biggest reason for me is that Paint Shop Pro doesn't do colour management.
 
Photoshop has been the "standard" for many years, so it is not surprising that it is what most people use and recommend. As a mainly amateur photographer I have used both programs through several versions, and both have their strengths and weaknesses.

Photoshop is very powerful in what it enables you to do, but there is a steep learning curve. IMO many of its features are not really needed outside the professional arena - although the Healing brush is a godsend for rapid cleaning of sensor dust spots!

Paintshop Pro can do much of what Photoshop can do, and for the more basic functions such as resizing, levels adjustment, adding borders, printing etc, I find it easier and more convenient to use.

Generally if I want to do a quick edit for a print or the web I fire up PSP8, if I have a more complex edit to do I will probably use Photoshop.

Paul.
http://www.imagesfromnature.net
http://www.pbase.com/pchester/
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
 
Hi. I have been trying to familiarize myself with PS for some time now, but I find results are quicker to achieve and on par by using Corel. The only exception I have found is the magnetic lasso tool in PS which is totally without match by ANY editor I have tried.
Col.
 
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .
Click to expand...
Photoshop is pricey, all right. IMO its biggest strength is in its user interface -- after you learn to know it, it's immensely fast and powerful to use, you can automate very complex series of actions, and it does most of the nasty housekeeping (e.g. color management) wonderfully well. I've tried some of the competitors, and while many have the features, none I've come across have the usability.

It does take a while to learn, though.

Petteri
--



Portfolio: [ http://www.seittipaja.fi/index/ ]
Pontification: [ http://www.seittipaja.fi/ ]
 
I have alwyas used PSP more than Photoshop until my last computer crash where I doscovered that my PSP disk had mysteriously become scratched byeond usablilty (gotta love those kids!!)
I don't want to buy PSP again, so I have been forcing myself to use Photoshop.

I could literally fly through PSP with great results and I was very bummed to lose it.
 
Have you tride the new cutout tool in Corel PhotoPaint 11? Truely a remarkable selection device!
Col Winfield said:
Hi. I have been trying to familiarize myself with PS for some time
now, but I find results are quicker to achieve and on par by using
Corel. The only exception I have found is the magnetic lasso tool
in PS which is totally without match by ANY editor I have tried.
Col.
Click to expand...
--
G. Barrington
Teradata Certified Professional
 
Paul,

Assuming you are a registerd user, I bet if you contacted Jasc they'd either let you download a replacement, or let you buy an upgrade at a very reasonable price. (reason enough to register all software!)

A similar thing happened to me and my copy of V-Com's System Suite 4 and I had a new copy installed 2 days after contacting them. It also happened to me with ACDSee. That time it took 3 days to get a replacement. One of the reasons we pay a little extra for quality software, is the after sale support. Life's too short to settle for software you don't like!
paul84043 said:
I have alwyas used PSP more than Photoshop until my last computer
crash where I doscovered that my PSP disk had mysteriously become
scratched byeond usablilty (gotta love those kids!!)
I don't want to buy PSP again, so I have been forcing myself to use
Photoshop.

I could literally fly through PSP with great results and I was very
bummed to lose it.
Click to expand...
--
G. Barrington
Teradata Certified Professional
 
I used PSP 7 for a while, but always found myself frusterated with it. Color management and speed were a joke, and you can't scroll around the image you're editing or chang the viewing size when a filter is open (this is a real pain in the neck when you're trying to fine toon filter settings). I also didn't find it verry intuitive to use. It also didn't like alot of Photoshop plug-ins. I'm not sure what PSP 8 improved, but I don't care to try it since I found something much better.

I moved on to Corel Photopaint, which I find runs circles around PSP. It's much faster, more intuitive, and works the way I expect it to. Fine tuing filter settings is easy since you can scroll around the image while editing with a filter opened, and can change the view size. The Photoshop plug-ins I care to use work, and color management is great, and quality is consistant. There's more, but I don't care to write a book on this.
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
--
dgrogers

http://www.pbase.com/drog
 
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
 
of Photoshop?

The main argument for using Photoshop in the US is that it is the "standard". Every print shop, ad shop, pro photographer, etc either uses or knows it and when you talk to them you need to both "talk" and "understand" Photoshop.

It is a wonderful product (I have been using it since Ver 3.0) but very complex with a very steep learning curve.

I encourage most amateurs to use Photoshop Elements II - it is about $70 US and as a 'defeatured' version of PS amazingly capable - and everything you learn will be transferable to PS if you ever need to.

Full Photoshop is real overkill for most folks.
 
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
I agree with you. Photoshop has a serious flaw in the algorithm it uses to shrink an image to fit the screen. PS Pro and the Windows XP viewer perform this function flawlessly. Considering the price tag attached to Photoshop this is unacceptable. It would be like spending $600.00 for a new lens that had a deep scratch on the glass. I'm surprised that more people haven't complained about this problem.
 
It's a bit like the emperor's new clothes that way.

In their defence, Adobe must charge a lot for PS because they advertise like you would not believe! I don't mean web and print spots, but sponsorship of conference workshops -- where folks pay a lot of money to learn to use a product that is very complex to begin with.
 
Can you clarify what you mean? I don't have any problem with Fit to Screen or maybe I do and I haven't noticed for the past 6 years. ; }
Scott Heck said:
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
I agree with you. Photoshop has a serious flaw in the algorithm it
uses to shrink an image to fit the screen. PS Pro and the Windows
XP viewer perform this function flawlessly. Considering the price
tag attached to Photoshop this is unacceptable. It would be like
spending $600.00 for a new lens that had a deep scratch on the
glass. I'm surprised that more people haven't complained about
this problem.
Click to expand...
 
Photoshop will do anything PSP can and more. Photoshop is the cutting edge and PSP follows on later. If you have both programes, learn photoshop, is't great

Regards
Kim
 
I'm shooting with a Canon 10d 6.2M. When I shrink the view to fit on the screen edges become jagged. My best example is a picture with power lines at the top. The power lines are broken in many places instead of consistent across the screen. I've tried numerous different setting to correct this with no success. PS Pro does not do this. I've tested it on different computers with the same result. I asked someone who uses photoshop professionally to get photos ready for magazine print. He was unaware of the problem because like most people this is the only program he has used because it's the "best". I emailed him the photo with the power lines which produced the same results on his system as mine. The only reason he could give me for this to occur is " just cause". Totally unacceptable to me. I need to see what the finished product looks like before I print it.

If you like I can email the photo to you. Just send me an email requesting it and I'll send it over.
framer said:
Scott Heck said:
Chris 749 said:
Hi.
As an inexperienced user of cameras and photographic software I may
be missing something, perhaps you guys can add your opinion to this
post. I have got Paint shop pro v8 and I have also used Photoshop.
I can really not see the difference between the two, yet so many
people on the forums seem to prefer photoshop. Is Paint shop pro
lagging behind in some professional way. We in the UK find
Photoshop quite expensive and some would say unjustified. Your
input will be appreciated .

Thanks Chris
Click to expand...
I agree with you. Photoshop has a serious flaw in the algorithm it
uses to shrink an image to fit the screen. PS Pro and the Windows
XP viewer perform this function flawlessly. Considering the price
tag attached to Photoshop this is unacceptable. It would be like
spending $600.00 for a new lens that had a deep scratch on the
glass. I'm surprised that more people haven't complained about
this problem.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
I disagree. Here's a few examples

jpeg2000
lossless jpeg rotation and saving
toolbar customizing
macro recording
thumbnail sizing
highlight/midtone/shadow adjustment
print templates
barrel distortion correction

These are just a few. If photoshop can do all this I sure haven't found it.
Bufferzone said:
Photoshop will do anything PSP can and more. Photoshop is the
cutting edge and PSP follows on later. If you have both programes,
learn photoshop, is't great

Regards
Kim
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Keyboard shortcuts

f
Forum
m
My threads
Mobile site
About
Editorial content
Cameras & Lenses
Community
All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998–2025 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved.
Reproduction in whole or part in any form or medium without specific written permission is prohibited.
When you use DPReview links to buy products, the site may earn a commission.
©GPS Media - Guides, Products, Services.
Back
Top