A7RIII Kudos to Sony and humbug to forum naysayers

...why people feel the need to make announcements like that. Or if they decide that they want to leave a brand, they feel the need to make a... "Why I'm leaving _________".

No one cares.

I'm old enough to remember the time when there was NO internet, and you just did what you did... and the only people that you can rant to were your (physical REAL) friends either in person or on the phone.
Probably the same reason you feel you need to make an announcement about people making announcements :)
I didn't make an announcement (as in... making a thread/discussion) about it, did it? And I'm just replying to something already there.
 
I'm right with you on all this! I have shot a ton of cameras and am amazed with how the A9 just puts a big smile on my face every time I use it, whether it is for wildlife, sports or portraits. I have never enjoyed using any camera as much as this one, possibly excepting my Leica cameras back in the 70's (you can look at my recent past camera list to see what I am comparing it to). While I was continually annoyed shooting the a7R's, and to a lesser degree with the A7RII, I have a tough time finding much of anything to criticize with the A9, other than the ergonomics that come with smaller cameras.

I am wondering if I will still want to shoot my A7RII when my A7RIII arrives, since Sony fixed nearly my entire wish list. :)

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Jeff
Florida, USA
http://www.gr8photography.com
 
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I'm right with you on all this! I have shot a ton of cameras and am amazed with how the A9 just puts a big smile on my face every time I use it, whether it is for wildlife, sports or portraits. I have never enjoyed using any camera as much as this one, possibly excepting my Leica cameras back in the 70's (you can look at my recent past camera list to see what I am comparing it to). While I was continually annoyed shooting the a7R's, and to a lesser degree with the A7RII, I have a tough time finding much of anything to criticize with the A9, other than the ergonomics that come with smaller cameras.

I am wondering if I will still want to shoot my A7RII when my A7RIII arrives, since Sony fixed nearly my entire wish list. :)
 
I'm right with you on all this! I have shot a ton of cameras and am amazed with how the A9 just puts a big smile on my face every time I use it, whether it is for wildlife, sports or portraits. I have never enjoyed using any camera as much as this one, possibly excepting my Leica cameras back in the 70's (you can look at my recent past camera list to see what I am comparing it to). While I was continually annoyed shooting the a7R's, and to a lesser degree with the A7RII, I have a tough time finding much of anything to criticize with the A9, other than the ergonomics that come with smaller cameras.

I am wondering if I will still want to shoot my A7RII when my A7RIII arrives, since Sony fixed nearly my entire wish list. :)

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Jeff
Florida, USA
http://www.gr8photography.com
Yes I agree which is what my post was supposed to be about which is more Kudo's to Sony for continuing to push the envelope which helps everybody who has an interest in photography which we all enjoy.

I just get tired of all the negativity on TV, the internet on this forum it just gets to you once and awhile, sorry to ruffle anyones feathers that was not my intention. I come here to learn and share not listen to people complain and I apologise for complaining about complainers we all have more positive and uplifting things to do in our lives.

I will admit the complaints about the III are nowhere near as bad as the A9 which I am not parting with until their is a A9 II. I think it is a bit of a misnomer for many to feel it is a sports or action camera when in fact it is so much more.

The shots I have gotten from my dear Buddy who I put down unexpectedly Friday evening I got because of the fast AF and 20 FPS. The same with some great group and people pics. I find it amazing how one of the twenty frames is "The One" and how easy it is to get some really great non-sports or what you typically think of as action shots.

Children, pets, people are shot by most and I now use my RX100 V on 20fps when I give it to someone to take a photo of my girlfriend and I and we end up with much better photos. Sometimes it almost feels like cheating but we all know in the past we just got lucky sometimes. Nobody can push the shutter at precisly the right time or pick which 20th of a second to push the shutter.

To see this even at 10 FPS which nobody thought was possible myself included this quick is real exciting to me because I do prefer the 42MP for a lot of things. All the other stuff is just a really nice bonus I think the upgrade is a Major one and exciting and can't wait to get mine supposedly the end of the month.

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Please do not put words in my mouth. Nothing can be further from the truth.
It is funny... when I acquired the A9, I thought 20fps was more than I would ever need and that I would only need it for BIF and sports. Like you, I have captured great portrait images that I would have missed in single shot or 5 to 10fps. With the silent shooting, I can now also obtain true candid shots. How did I ever live without 20fps combined with silent shooting, nearly full image area focus and Eye Focus that works like magic????? :)

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Jeff
Florida, USA
http://www.gr8photography.com
 
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Hi, it’s certainly an amazing camera there is no doubt. I wonder if they will bring out a “detuned” a7IIi with similar features, but 24mpx and at a lower price point? That would also be a big winner for them, although it must cannibalise some A7rIII sales.

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Berni29
m4/3 (long time), Sony FF, Fuji X and Ricoh GR, please see gear list.
I think Sony has broke their strategy on A7(A9) series cameras.

Previously it was A7 for all around with fast focusing, A7s for low light/video and A7r for large resolution but slow focusing.

Now they do not need to launch A7III/A7s III anymore, IMO, if you want a all around and cheaper than A7r III, you can go for A7r II, their price will drop even further early next year when 1st/2nd shipments A7r III have been delivered, and so is A9, on grey market they are already on par with A7r III's price tag.

So now they can be categoridsed as: A7r II for general purpose, A7r III for landscape and A9 for sport/low light/video (purely categorised by price tag)
 
I get a kick out of the posters who knock everything, "I'm not buying the A9 because... or I'm not buying the A7RIII because..." These are the same complainers who whine about how large the files are from 42MP. Many of these negativity folk cannot afford the camera in the first place or just like to complain.

The number of improvements to this already ground breaking camera is nothing short of amazing. I was hoping for 8 FPS and near A9 like AF and Sony not only surpassed my hopes but exceeded them and added a bunch of other nicities that will aid in achieving better images. Basically they improved about every shortcoming the camera had. For the roughly $1,500 it cost to upgrade your A7RII to the III it's a no brainer and very exciting upgrade.

I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

 
Because it's not in stock. Maybe i take the SD Quattro H for the winter. We have only 2 hours of daylight, so no danger to blow highlights.
 
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I get a kick out of the posters who knock everything, "I'm not buying the A9 because... or I'm not buying the A7RIII because..." These are the same complainers who whine about how large the files are from 42MP. Many of these negativity folk cannot afford the camera in the first place or just like to complain.

The number of improvements to this already ground breaking camera is nothing short of amazing. I was hoping for 8 FPS and near A9 like AF and Sony not only surpassed my hopes but exceeded them and added a bunch of other nicities that will aid in achieving better images. Basically they improved about every shortcoming the camera had. For the roughly $1,500 it cost to upgrade your A7RII to the III it's a no brainer and very exciting upgrade.

I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

 
And then, there's those "pesky" complainer's who complain about other complaine'rs! :-D
 
I get a kick out of the posters who knock everything, "I'm not buying the A9 because... or I'm not buying the A7RIII because..." These are the same complainers who whine about how large the files are from 42MP. Many of these negativity folk cannot afford the camera in the first place or just like to complain.

The number of improvements to this already ground breaking camera is nothing short of amazing. I was hoping for 8 FPS and near A9 like AF and Sony not only surpassed my hopes but exceeded them and added a bunch of other nicities that will aid in achieving better images. Basically they improved about every shortcoming the camera had. For the roughly $1,500 it cost to upgrade your A7RII to the III it's a no brainer and very exciting upgrade.

I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

 
I get a kick out of the posters who knock everything, "I'm not buying the A9 because... or I'm not buying the A7RIII because..." These are the same complainers who whine about how large the files are from 42MP. Many of these negativity folk cannot afford the camera in the first place or just like to complain.

The number of improvements to this already ground breaking camera is nothing short of amazing. I was hoping for 8 FPS and near A9 like AF and Sony not only surpassed my hopes but exceeded them and added a bunch of other nicities that will aid in achieving better images. Basically they improved about every shortcoming the camera had. For the roughly $1,500 it cost to upgrade your A7RII to the III it's a no brainer and very exciting upgrade.

I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

 
I post a lot here and have not seen these naysayers. I think you are oversensitive to anything less than praise for this camera and are making things up.

In any case, kudos to Sony for doing the rational thing while still delivering value. I'm waiting for a similar upgrade to my A7II with baited breath.
 
I post a lot here and have not seen these naysayers. I think you are oversensitive to anything less than praise for this camera and are making things up.

In any case, kudos to Sony for doing the rational thing while still delivering value. I'm waiting for a similar upgrade to my A7II with baited breath.
 
I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

The video is not correct about IS - at 3:30, talking about 5.5 stops of IS, the guy says that "... you can use shutter speed 5.5 times slower than you would normally expect...".

I think it should be 2^5.5 = 45 times slower, e.g., 1/4 s instead of 1/180 s.

Please correct me if this is wrong. If this is an official video coming from Sony, they should know better...
 
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I have watched a lot of videos on the A7RIII but this one even though it is from a Sony person probaby sums the improvements up more concisely than most.

The video is not correct about IS - at 3:30, talking about 5.5 stops of IS, the guy says that "... you can use shutter speed 5.5 times slower than you would normally expect...".

I think it should be 2^5.5 = 45 times slower, e.g., 1/4 s instead of 1/180 s.

Please correct me if this is wrong. If this is an official video coming from Sony, they should know better...
You are correct.

There are, in fact, several things wrong with that video, and that's one of them, for sure.
 
I post a lot here and have not seen these naysayers. I think you are oversensitive to anything less than praise for this camera and are making things up.

In any case, kudos to Sony for doing the rational thing while still delivering value. I'm waiting for a similar upgrade to my A7II with baited breath.
 
I fully agree with you.

In case something is better it is simply better. It is hard for me to understand that anybody would not realize the huge improvements made in the A7RM3 vs the A7RM2 (owning the A7RM2)

It is easy to see that the Canon 5DM2 => 5DM3 => 5DM4 steeps have been almost infinitesimal - the 5DM4 is now on a level I'd have accepted as a nice try for the M3 version.

Sony is doing a lot from model to model and the only reason I can understand not to upgrade is that the current resources don't allow it or no need for these features because somebody is a beginner in photography.

It is utterly shortsighted to think the individual capabilities grow with a better camera but it is the same way shortsighted to limit oneself with gear once better one is available in a technical oriented hobby.

Sony is doing a fantastic job listening to customers- hands down.

There is currently no other camera manufacturer that is innovating in this speed.

For me Sony is the king of customer friendly behavior!

Of course the old gear looses money but at the given cost level this is acceptable for me and those of use that need to save a little bit longer have a fantastic chance to get cheaper used models at a very attractive price point. The A7RM2 is now used at some 1600-1700 USD / EUR and this is an extremely good entry point for people wanting to have the 2nd best.

How could anybody not praise Sony for acting like that?

I am glad I sold all my Canon and Nikon gear some time ago.
 

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