Northernshooter
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Yes, temporarily until it's finished processing. Quite annoying as it makes it difficult to judge the strength of the filter.
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Luminar 2018
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I don't think it is our systems. I too have an i7 (4.00 GHz with I think 8 cores), 16 GB RAM, and Windows 10. My motherboard is only a couple of years old, and I use a fairly new SSD. Plus a fairly-new mid-level graphics card with 2 GB of memory, if Luminar uses that.
I think a lot of these programs that were written for Mac and are now being ported to Windows to expand market have been thrown over the fence too soon. I have had a lot of issues with Affinity, too, and finally just uninstalled it. I don't know the history of DxO, but I tried PhotoLab, and it too was laggy when making adjustments. Overall, the Adobe products are in my experience extremely well optimized for Windows, and things pretty much happen instantly in Lr and Ps on my computer.
I think a lot of these programs that were written for Mac and are now being ported to Windows to expand market have been thrown over the fence too soon. I have had a lot of issues with Affinity, too, and finally just uninstalled it. I don't know the history of DxO, but I tried PhotoLab, and it too was laggy when making adjustments. Overall, the Adobe products are in my experience extremely well optimized for Windows, and things pretty much happen instantly in Lr and Ps on my computer.
Northernshooter
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I tried the latest versions of DXO and Affinity only briefly but the seem to run OK. Certainly, much better than Luminar
Toermalijn
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Originally this is a MAC application wich they ported to the Windows ebvirement this fall. So, your MAC edition has allready been in development for some time, the Windows version is quite new, hence not optimized. Might take some time.
Also, there are quite some features missing in the new Windows version.
Ben of the North
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Like, there's no 'Close' button to close an image... You have to quit the program... annoying.
Ben of the North
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I sent 2 emails from their website with no answers, I got to Twitter told my problem and post my video... oh, now the World can see it, they immediately put me in contact with someone and i'm receiving personal help via email at the moment.
This is how it works in 2017, when you post your problems online, the companies know its not good for their reputation and they try to fix it asap.
Now, lets see if they will be able to fix my problems.
This is how it works in 2017, when you post your problems online, the companies know its not good for their reputation and they try to fix it asap.
Now, lets see if they will be able to fix my problems.
Priaptor
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This program so far is a loser. Agree about the quitting slow as sh-t and I see, so far, no reason to use this program. I'm using this on Windows, so I wonder if the Mac guys have issues.
If ON1 was criticized by users on dpreview, this program deserves to be crucified. It never should have been released if this is the best they could do.
If no answer, I will obviously be asking for a refund.
Ben of the North
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If they fix the sliders being too responsive and the fact that the image become lowres when sliding stuff, I will use it, I like how simple the program is. But with those two issues its just unworkable atm
SantaFeBill
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Yes. I got the e-mail notice that it (Windows version) was ready for dl at a little before 1PM MST yesterday, the 15th. When I followed the link, I was able to dl it.
Priaptor
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I'm not sure what size files you are working with but the rendering for me takes way too long. I haven't seen such slow rendering times in more than 10-15 years; maybe longer, at least on windows.
I can't even evaluate any other features until it renders quickly at least as quick as it's peers.
Ben of the North
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I'm working with 16mpx files from a Panasonic G85 ... I can't imagine working with the 24mpx files of my Fuji X-T20!
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SantaFeBill
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This is a puzzle. I'm using the Windows version, and having none of the problems reported here.
It's true that I've tried only a few of the program's capabilities. But my NEFs load and render acceptably fast. (They are smaller - from a D200 and a D7000, so not large by current standards.) Once I select a category, I can load, use, and delete filters. Slider speed and resolution are just fine for me - neither too sensitive nor too slow. (I've never used the 'type in' option available in other programs.) I don't have any trouble seeing the results of moving the sliders as I do so, but I'm not on a 4K monitor.
I've been able to get excellent results on some problematic images that even Photo Ninja couldn't do well with.
The only drawbacks for me so far are:
1. The program takes a long time to load, compared to others.
2. There is no browse mode that shows a preview of the image. So you have to either recognize the image you want to open by its 8-character file name or use something like Photo Mechanic to select.
3. When you export, it gives you only options about type for PNG and TIFF. There is no way to select bit depth. Also, you cannot select either name or location for the exported file. This needs to be fixed ASAP.
4. And yes, it needs a 'Cancel' button.
I'm on Win7, but on an older machine - although the graphics card is a recent Quadro.
I wonder if it plays better with Win7 than 10?
It's true that I've tried only a few of the program's capabilities. But my NEFs load and render acceptably fast. (They are smaller - from a D200 and a D7000, so not large by current standards.) Once I select a category, I can load, use, and delete filters. Slider speed and resolution are just fine for me - neither too sensitive nor too slow. (I've never used the 'type in' option available in other programs.) I don't have any trouble seeing the results of moving the sliders as I do so, but I'm not on a 4K monitor.
I've been able to get excellent results on some problematic images that even Photo Ninja couldn't do well with.
The only drawbacks for me so far are:
1. The program takes a long time to load, compared to others.
2. There is no browse mode that shows a preview of the image. So you have to either recognize the image you want to open by its 8-character file name or use something like Photo Mechanic to select.
3. When you export, it gives you only options about type for PNG and TIFF. There is no way to select bit depth. Also, you cannot select either name or location for the exported file. This needs to be fixed ASAP.
4. And yes, it needs a 'Cancel' button.
I'm on Win7, but on an older machine - although the graphics card is a recent Quadro.
I wonder if it plays better with Win7 than 10?
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Brian Wadie
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I tried to download the Win 10 trial twice today, just goes to a blank screen, maybe they have pulled it for more work after the poor reception?
Looks disappointing so far
I really want to give this application some credit but for me there is a fundamental issues which is the blotchy colors all over the image...
If theres just one thing that absolutely has to be done right thats a basic raw conversion! hopefully its some bug or something, easily resolved.
Is this just me or is anyone else getting this? If just me, mods delete this post.
This photo is loaded and exported with no changes. see the color blotches?
Second major issue is exporting photos, every single aspect of it is poor. speed, you cant do anything whilst its exporting and theres no options and worst, when i export a portrait image to jpeg it saves it landscape.....seriously? is it striping exif data or something.
The third is the overall speed of rendering and when adjusting settings etc.
If theres just one thing that absolutely has to be done right thats a basic raw conversion! hopefully its some bug or something, easily resolved.
Is this just me or is anyone else getting this? If just me, mods delete this post.
This photo is loaded and exported with no changes. see the color blotches?
Second major issue is exporting photos, every single aspect of it is poor. speed, you cant do anything whilst its exporting and theres no options and worst, when i export a portrait image to jpeg it saves it landscape.....seriously? is it striping exif data or something.
The third is the overall speed of rendering and when adjusting settings etc.
goactive
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Got mine yesterday to for win 7 i am running.
I have not been able to edit a full image yet without it crashing on me.
And yes it is super slow to load in an image I was expecting it to be much faster.
Super slow to apply any editing effect with your image going fuzzy as it waits for the effects to be added to it and when adding in effects many times one effect overrides another so all of a sudden the photo gets dark and messed up looking.
It seems like it has a lot of cool effects and things you can do i like many of them but i cannot try many as it will crash every time.
I like the top or bottom exposure brightness tool that can replace adding in a gradient for many things.
Also like the tri-color tool and how it works before it crashes.
Have not got to the point to even try to export a photo yet as is will crash when editing.
I am going to keep playing with it and learn how the layers and bushes work more but the crashing needs to be fixed before it can be used. Or before the return time is up as i am not going to keep it like this.
After testing so many programs ACDSee Ultimate 2018 is the one I am getting on sale right now for Black Friday as my Lightroom replacement and Photoshop replacement all in one. In the edit area i can do almost everything I ever do to a photo in PS all in the one program and the tools layout is much better set up for a photographer to edit photos. Only thing missing is support for PS brushes but i do not use them very much and i did get Affinity photo that supports that when needed. Working with the layers is fantastic and as fast or faster than working in PS but with better tool placement all for photos. and you have the thumbs at the bottom so you can go from image to image like in Lightroom and use the raw edit area or the edit with layers area. No other program offers all this in a raw edit program that works this good.
Luminar if they fix the crashing I might keep just to see what they end up with when they add on a photo management system. to Edit one photo at a time like it is now I would never use in reality can you see bring in one photo at a time for a 2000 photo shoot.
I have not been able to edit a full image yet without it crashing on me.
And yes it is super slow to load in an image I was expecting it to be much faster.
Super slow to apply any editing effect with your image going fuzzy as it waits for the effects to be added to it and when adding in effects many times one effect overrides another so all of a sudden the photo gets dark and messed up looking.
It seems like it has a lot of cool effects and things you can do i like many of them but i cannot try many as it will crash every time.
I like the top or bottom exposure brightness tool that can replace adding in a gradient for many things.
Also like the tri-color tool and how it works before it crashes.
Have not got to the point to even try to export a photo yet as is will crash when editing.
I am going to keep playing with it and learn how the layers and bushes work more but the crashing needs to be fixed before it can be used. Or before the return time is up as i am not going to keep it like this.
After testing so many programs ACDSee Ultimate 2018 is the one I am getting on sale right now for Black Friday as my Lightroom replacement and Photoshop replacement all in one. In the edit area i can do almost everything I ever do to a photo in PS all in the one program and the tools layout is much better set up for a photographer to edit photos. Only thing missing is support for PS brushes but i do not use them very much and i did get Affinity photo that supports that when needed. Working with the layers is fantastic and as fast or faster than working in PS but with better tool placement all for photos. and you have the thumbs at the bottom so you can go from image to image like in Lightroom and use the raw edit area or the edit with layers area. No other program offers all this in a raw edit program that works this good.
Luminar if they fix the crashing I might keep just to see what they end up with when they add on a photo management system. to Edit one photo at a time like it is now I would never use in reality can you see bring in one photo at a time for a 2000 photo shoot.
Northernshooter
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Yes I've seen those blotches as well.I really want to give this application some credit but for me there is a fundamental issues which is the blotchy colors all over the image...
If theres just one thing that absolutely has to be done right thats a basic raw conversion! hopefully its some bug or something, easily resolved.
Is this just me or is anyone else getting this? If just me, mods delete this post.
This photo is loaded and exported with no changes. see the color blotches?
Second major issue is exporting photos, every single aspect of it is poor. speed, you cant do anything whilst its exporting and theres no options and worst, when i export a portrait image to jpeg it saves it landscape.....seriously? is it striping exif data or something.
The third is the overall speed of rendering and when adjusting settings etc.
Robert Schoner
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I don't see blotches but the sky has a lot of noise; may be elsewhere but not as noticeable.
Bob Schoner
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Please view full size, the sky should be relatively clean. I can process in a different application or upload the raw for any disbelievers.
goactive
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I am getting that too and was not sure if I was doing something wrong yes blotchy ness
I really want to give this application some credit but for me there is a fundamental issues which is the blotchy colors all over the image...
If theres just one thing that absolutely has to be done right thats a basic raw conversion! hopefully its some bug or something, easily resolved.
Is this just me or is anyone else getting this? If just me, mods delete this post.
This photo is loaded and exported with no changes. see the color blotches?
Second major issue is exporting photos, every single aspect of it is poor. speed, you cant do anything whilst its exporting and theres no options and worst, when i export a portrait image to jpeg it saves it landscape.....seriously? is it striping exif data or something.
The third is the overall speed of rendering and when adjusting settings etc.
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