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Just act quick comparison with the two cameras are currently use. Fuji is my general use camera I never bother with any settings JP G just come out right or good enough. Dp3 jpegs on the other hand never come out good enough. To me sharpness is less important than color, and I usually prefer Fuji for it. But if I need super detail/resolution I use Dp3. Plus 6mpx is plenty since I only view them on 2mpx monitors. The 2 images had small adjustment in faststone, Fuji had jpg adjusted and dpm3 had jpg adjusted that was converted from spp.



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The Fuji is lighter despite having over a half stop less exposure.

I love the sharpness and detail in the DP3 picture. It really is spectacular.

However, like my DP2M, greens in deep shadow seem to get a paint by number look, where everything is the same colour/brightness and missing any kind of subtlety in shading.

As my dear mother-in-law says, you pays your money, you takes your choice.

jan
 
Both images are shot at 50mm but still the focal length look very different. Did you change your position between the shots?
Regarding image quality: Both are nice but very different.

cheers
B.
 
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  1. Agree in regards to missing colors in the shadows for the Sigma, actually the DP3 shot was over exposed by over a stop, i had to bring the exposure back in SPP, actually I didnt notice this before but it seems that from f2.8-3.5 max shutter speed is 1250 and at f4 its 1600 and only at 5.6 it goes to 1/2000. Not sure if its just DP3m or DP2m works the same way.
 
lotuz9 said:
  1. Agree in regards to missing colors in the shadows for the Sigma, actually the DP3 shot was over exposed by over a stop, i had to bring the exposure back in SPP, actually I didnt notice this before but it seems that from f2.8-3.5 max shutter speed is 1250 and at f4 its 1600 and only at 5.6 it goes to 1/2000. Not sure if its just DP3m or DP2m works the same way.
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DP2M is the same. My manual says:

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I tried getting round it in Manual Mode. I set f/2.8 and 1/1250 sec. When I increased the time to 1/1600 sec, the aperture went up to f/4.0. Equally, it changed to f/5.6 for 1/2000.

The three pairs of "limit" values do not not represent the same exposure, FWIW.

No idea why it does that and not going to quess . . . . anybody know for sure?

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Baumgartner said:
Both images are shot at 50mm but still the focal length look very different. Did you change your position between the shots?
Regarding image quality: Both are nice but very different.

cheers
B.
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It was shot from the same spot, Fuji had a Nikon 50mm 1.8G lens, its a fullframe lens so it translates to a 75mm lens on crop sensor, thats probably the reason for difference in view.
 
xpatUSA said:
lotuz9 said:
  1. Agree in regards to missing colors in the shadows for the Sigma, actually the DP3 shot was over exposed by over a stop, i had to bring the exposure back in SPP, actually I didnt notice this before but it seems that from f2.8-3.5 max shutter speed is 1250 and at f4 its 1600 and only at 5.6 it goes to 1/2000. Not sure if its just DP3m or DP2m works the same way.
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DP2M is the same. My manual says:

503fa5bcd9984bc5858be78e7c12105a.jpg

I tried getting round it in Manual Mode. I set f/2.8 and 1/1250 sec. When I increased the time to 1/1600 sec, the aperture went up to f/4.0. Equally, it changed to f/5.6 for 1/2000.

The three pairs of "limit" values do not not represent the same exposure, FWIW.

No idea why it does that and not going to quess . . . . anybody know for sure?

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Ted
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Its probably somekind of limitation of the leaf shutter, but it would be interesting to know the reason for that limitation.
 
lotuz9 said:
xpatUSA said:
lotuz9 said:
  1. Agree in regards to missing colors in the shadows for the Sigma, actually the DP3 shot was over exposed by over a stop, i had to bring the exposure back in SPP, actually I didnt notice this before but it seems that from f2.8-3.5 max shutter speed is 1250 and at f4 its 1600 and only at 5.6 it goes to 1/2000. Not sure if its just DP3m or DP2m works the same way.
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DP2M is the same. My manual says:

503fa5bcd9984bc5858be78e7c12105a.jpg

I tried getting round it in Manual Mode. I set f/2.8 and 1/1250 sec. When I increased the time to 1/1600 sec, the aperture went up to f/4.0. Equally, it changed to f/5.6 for 1/2000.

The three pairs of "limit" values do not not represent the same exposure, FWIW.

No idea why it does that and not going to quess . . . . anybody know for sure?

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Ted
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Its probably somekind of limitation of the leaf shutter, but it would be interesting to know the reason for that limitation.
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It is mechanical limitation of leaf shutter which serves double function as shutter and aperture.

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victorgv said:
lotuz9 said:
xpatUSA said:
lotuz9 said:
  1. Agree in regards to missing colors in the shadows for the Sigma, actually the DP3 shot was over exposed by over a stop, i had to bring the exposure back in SPP, actually I didnt notice this before but it seems that from f2.8-3.5 max shutter speed is 1250 and at f4 its 1600 and only at 5.6 it goes to 1/2000. Not sure if its just DP3m or DP2m works the same way.
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DP2M is the same. My manual says:

503fa5bcd9984bc5858be78e7c12105a.jpg

I tried getting round it in Manual Mode. I set f/2.8 and 1/1250 sec. When I increased the time to 1/1600 sec, the aperture went up to f/4.0. Equally, it changed to f/5.6 for 1/2000.

The three pairs of "limit" values do not not represent the same exposure, FWIW.

No idea why it does that and not going to quess . . . . anybody know for sure?

--
Ted
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Its probably somekind of limitation of the leaf shutter, but it would be interesting to know the reason for that limitation.
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It is mechanical limitation of leaf shutter which serves double function as shutter and aperture.
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Thank you, Victor, now it is clear. I live and learn . . .



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Baumgartner said:
Both images are shot at 50mm but still the focal length look very different. Did you change your position between the shots?
Regarding image quality: Both are nice but very different.

cheers
B.
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The camera was somewhat closer in the Fuji image, taken from a higher vantage point and pointed down quite a bit. That's why the focal length seems different.

Those differences have no effect, of course, on the OP's points.

David
 
I prefer no doubt the DP3 Merrill, more balanced image and the colors are exceptional, film-like IQ!!
 
The pumpkins look more orange and the bike looks more red in the Sigma photo, but the plants look more green in the Fuji photo. The biggest problem I see is the white posts also look like there is some green bleed into them from the bushes. That doesn't seem to be happening in the Sigma photo. No doubt the Sigma can blow away the Fuji photo in resolution too, of course.
 
DavidWright2010 said:
Baumgartner said:
Both images are shot at 50mm but still the focal length look very different. Did you change your position between the shots?
Regarding image quality: Both are nice but very different.

cheers
B.
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The camera was somewhat closer in the Fuji image, taken from a higher vantage point and pointed down quite a bit. That's why the focal length seems different.
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You're right, as the difference at the left and right is minimal.

cheers
B.
 
lotuz9 said:
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The natural "film" look.

lotuz9 said:
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Typical "digital" look.

If you show both images to mainstream users, most of them would prefer second one because the colors are "good" and realistic, as with any other Bayer camera.

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