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I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
 
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
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Once you have the 5D4, you won't touch your 6D or 80D again. Sell them both. Unless you are shooting big field sports like high school soccer, then you might want the reach of the 80D.

I'd also sell the macro if you don't do much macro shooting, and sell both Sigmas. The 24-70 is a fine walk-around lens. With 30mp on tap you can crop your way to 105mm and still have great IQ.
 
JackM said:
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
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Once you have the 5D4, you won't touch your 6D or 80D again. Sell them both.
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The only problem with that recommendation is that no photographer making money with his cameras would dare rely on just ONE camera body. What if that one body is damaged somehow? What do you say to the models and the client? Gee! So sorry! Let's pack it in! I don't think so.

Despite its shortcomings, the question the OP needs to consider is just how viable is an APS-C image if he's mainly relying on a FF to make his money? If it were me, I'd sell the 80D and the EF-S lens. Maybe the macro lens as well if it's not getting used much.
 
Best to have back up/2nd body as the same as your main one. So 6D is a better companion to your new mk IV
 
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
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I'd sell the 80d and keep the Sigma 17-50 f2.8 for 4k shooting on the 5D4. :) But to each their own.
 
Personally I would keep the 80D for the extra reach and better focusing than the 6D, but I am not a pro who would need a backup full frame. Do you want consistency or variety?
 
landscaper1 said:
JackM said:
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
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Once you have the 5D4, you won't touch your 6D or 80D again. Sell them both.
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The only problem with that recommendation is that no photographer making money with his cameras would dare rely on just ONE camera body. What if that one body is damaged somehow? What do you say to the models and the client? Gee! So sorry! Let's pack it in! I don't think so.

Despite its shortcomings, the question the OP needs to consider is just how viable is an APS-C image if he's mainly relying on a FF to make his money? If it were me, I'd sell the 80D and the EF-S lens. Maybe the macro lens as well if it's not getting used much.
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Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...
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The sensor performance of the 6D Mk II is just as good as the 6D or 5D Mk III, it just didn't improve according to the reviews and tests. So, if your only negative was the focus system, then the 6D Mk II corrects that and more.

Note: with the dual-pixel sensor in the 6D Mk II you'll notice that the noise you do see will be finer and more grain like compared to you original 6D.
 
landscaper1 said:
JackM said:
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens

I need to sell one of.my bodies to buy the 5d.mark iv...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I ve read.in reviews.that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d...on the other.hand i have a lot of ef lenses

I am not sure which one to keep..they both sell around the.same price
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Once you have the 5D4, you won't touch your 6D or 80D again. Sell them both.
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The only problem with that recommendation is that no photographer making money with his cameras would dare rely on just ONE camera body. What if that one body is damaged somehow? What do you say to the models and the client? Gee! So sorry! Let's pack it in! I don't think so.

Despite its shortcomings, the question the OP needs to consider is just how viable is an APS-C image if he's mainly relying on a FF to make his money? If it were me, I'd sell the 80D and the EF-S lens. Maybe the macro lens as well if it's not getting used much.
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Yeah, I suppose "events for the media and fashion/models" justifies a backup body. Those sound like jobs that can't easily or tactfully be rescheduled in the event of equipment failure. I don't shoot stuff like that often enough, and I'm willing to roll the dice a bit. Haven't had a failure yet in 10 years of part time pro shooting, knock on wood.
 
With the differing ergonomics and control positions, especially the top buttons, I would not want to use either a 6D or an 80D on the same shoot with a 5D-series camera, but I change ISO frequently, and use the buttons to do so. This is why I did not add a 6D to my “team” of 7D and 5D cameras, even though extremely tempted by its excellent low-light sensor. (Original model, in each case; I now use 7D II and 5Ds R cameras.) For a shooter who uses Auto-ISO, and/or uses the Information or Q screens to change ISO and such things, this will not matter so much.

If I am going to mix cameras with differing control/user interfaces, during the same shoot, I prefer two radically different bodies, so that tactile clues make it more obvious which is in my hands. A personal example would be a 7D and a massive 1D Mark II N, but I occasionally fumbled setting changes even when using these two, when making the changes by feel, rather than looking at an LCD for confirmation.

A seemingly fool-proof combination for me is to use a Nikon Df as the second camera, because no other DSLR is anything like a Df, which is covered with the tactile indicators that It is not one of my conventional SLRs. ;-)

To be clear, however, I am one individual. Others may well be able to use similar camera bodies, with differing controls, such as a 6D and 5D-series, on the same shoot, and not have issues.

It does not seem to bother or confuse me to use APS-C and full-35mm-format cameras during the same shoot. 7D II and 5D R work well for me, with virtually identical controls and handling behavior. (APS-C is the norm for my “on-duty*” images, anyway, so using APS-C is not delivering a lesser product.) The “full-frame advantage” in low light is overcome by using top-tier Speedlites. Other users will have differing needs, and may not be able to use flash in as many situations.

* I am not claiming to be a “professional” photographer, though my images are used for official purposes.

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I wear a badge and pistol, and make evidentiary images at night, which incorporates elements of portrait, macro, still life, landscape, architecture, and PJ. I enjoy using both Canons and Nikons.
 
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I would kick the 80D out, like this you have 2 full frame cameras and consider selling the 100mm Macro unless you use it often. An extension tube, which works for any of you remaining lenses, is cheaper, smaller and frees up some money...
 
Eagle430s said:
I own a 6d body for the last 3 years ..it served me very well with excellent low light performance and nice colours...the only negative is the focus system...i ve saved some money for an upgrade but due to the average reviews.of the 6d mark ii i decided to go for a 5d mark iv

I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d ...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii ...canon 85mm f1.8...canon 100mm f2.8 macro....canon 70-200 f2.8is ii canon 50mm f1.8 stm...my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens.
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A 5D IV would be an excellent choice. I do not yet own a 5D IV, but I can see myself adding one in 2018 or 2019. (My newest and most-used Canon DSLRs are a pair of the 7D II, and a 5Ds R.)

I am seeing some redundancy in your lenses. You have three standard zooms. I can see the advantage of having two standard zooms, in case one malfunctions or is lost/damaged.

85mm and 100mm are close enough for me to question the need for both, especially when you also have an excellent EF 70-200/2.8 IS II. In my case, I need macro, and my choice is a 100mm macro lens, therefore I have indefinitely postponed an 85mm lens, as it has not been of sufficient importance to stretch my budget. (Actually, for my needs, a weather/splash-resistant 100mm macro lens is so important that I now have two EF 100/2.8L Macro IS lenses.)
 
Sell the 6D. I have one as a backup to the 5D Mark IV but unless my 5d Mark IV was to tear up I can't imagine touching it again.
 
That's a tough call.

Generically speaking, the 80D would make a better companion / backup to the 5D4 due to the FPS, AF, Dynamic Range, DPAF and other features. It also gives you more reach due to the crop and still can use your EF glass.

On the other hand, you lose all-out IQ and DOF compared to the 6D. The 6D has higher resale right now, so you can get more for it than the 80D.

I think it comes down to this ...

How much action do you shoot? Are these fashion shows with runway models? How about the events? How much movement? The 80D will have superior action AF. However, it isn't all that it's cracked up to be because it is a fairly old 45pt system and doesn't go as low-light as the 6D.

The 6D AF as you know, is ancient and archaic. However, that center point is super fast, super accurate and goes down to -3EV. Even by today's standards, that center point is very potent and almost never misses either on single or servo. Downside is, this is a focus-and-recompose camera, and on servo you have to track center of frame. Which for me at least, means I have to shoot more wide angle to make it easier and feasible, and to leave room for crop composition.

Both are going to be pathetic in AF compared to the 5D4 for moving subjects. So you may not want to value that factor that much. In a pinch if your 5D4 goes down - you can do fine with either as backup.

Since you said you shoot a lot of fashion, I would lean toward 6D. Because at the end of the day, only the 6D can give you that full-frame look. It will be cleaner, sharper and better IQ even if it doesn't have as much DR. DR isn't that important in fashion since I assume you're using lighting of some sort.

Also, if you've managed to work with the 6D for 3 years...then it isn't crippling you now, it won't cripple you later. Since you own both now, only you whether the AF on the 6D is good enough vs the 80D, or if you see a big advantage to the 80D you may want to lean that way.
 
Hi, I originally thought I would keep my 6D forever, even after I upgraded to a 5dmk iv. Once I got the mk iv, I never touched the 6D again. After playing with lots of different small cameras in my kayak, I finally decided the Sl/1 - the sl/2 might be the best solution for photographing birds from it. I have been completely satisfied with the sl/1 and the sl/2 is even better. There have been times when I have used it outside my kayak to get a longer reach from my longer lenses. Since it has the same sensor (I guess) as the 80D, I would say if you have to sell one, sell the 6D (hard, I know, as it is a fabulous camera, but you will be amazed at what the mk iv can do). Enjoy.
 
I just reread your original post. If you are a semi-pro doing this for a living, keep the 6D as a backup. You may not need or want to use it, but it would be the better camera to have as a backup if something happens to the mkiv
 
I'd say keep the 6D. Reason is, you list the 80D as your "backup" body, so it appears the 6D is your main shooter. It makes sense to sell the camera you use less, especially if the price is about the same. Add the 5D4, then you have two bodies capable of doing the job at hand. For me, I'd have different lenses on each body and use them both during shoots.
 
Eagle430s said:
... I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d
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Keep as back-up to the new 5D IV.
Eagle430s said:
...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii
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Pick one to keep, sell the other. Don't need both
Eagle430s said:
...canon 85mm f1.8
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Keep, if you use it.
Eagle430s said:
...canon 100mm f2.8 macro
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Keep, if you use it for macro, otherwise it's redundant with the 85/1.8.
Eagle430s said:
...canon 70-200 f2.8is ii
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Keep
Eagle430s said:
...canon 50mm f1.8 stm.
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Keep, if you use it.
Eagle430s said:
..my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens
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Sell, sell. your work and future choices are simplified by committing to one format/lens system.
Eagle430s said:
...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I've read in reviews that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d.
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You have both. Who you gonna believe, the innerwebs or your lyin' eyes? ;-)

IMHO, YMMV

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Unapologetic Canon Apologist :-)
 
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Lemming51 said:
Eagle430s said:
... I am a semi pro photographer doing events for the media and fashion/models portfolios.

My gear is: 6d
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Keep as back-up to the new 5D IV.
Lemming51 said:
...sigma 24-105f4 art..canon 24-70f2.8ii
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Pick one to keep, sell the other. Don't need both
Lemming51 said:
...canon 85mm f1.8
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Keep, if you use it.
Lemming51 said:
...canon 100mm f2.8 macro
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Keep, if you use it for macro, otherwise it's redundant with the 85/1.8.
Lemming51 said:
...canon 70-200 f2.8is ii
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Keep
Lemming51 said:
...canon 50mm f1.8 stm.
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Keep, if you use it.
Lemming51 said:
..my 2nd body is an 80d with a sigma.17-50os dg.2.8 lens
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Sell, sell. your work and future choices are simplified by committing to one format/lens system.
Lemming51 said:
...but am not sure.if i want to keep my 6d or.my 80d body? I've read in reviews that 80d has better dynamic range.than the 6d.
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You have both. Who you gonna believe, the innerwebs or your lyin' eyes? ;-)

IMHO, YMMV
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