papybenenuts
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the Lens is better on the FZ1000
the 2000/2500 is better for the Video an have a touch screen
both are superb cameras
the 2000/2500 is better for the Video an have a touch screen
both are superb cameras
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DrHook59
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And herein lies the rub of all photographic argument - what is a good image?
Images are created by the eye of the photographer. No amount of money is ever going to change the eye of the photographer in an instant, in the same way that buying a newer, faster car is not going to change the driver. Sure, a course of lessons (in either discipline) could help over time, but the endless arguments about photographic gear nearly always forget the principle point - it is the person who takes the picture; the camera is not a robot with AI.
Simply put, the ability to take advantage of a situation and record a good photograph of it using the light, angles and spatial references available to you, is nothing to do with money. It's all down to you. There are also so many other variables to getting a great photo, not the least of which is you actually have to BE THERE - whether it involves being in the front row of a concert, getting up at 4.00am to drive into the desert to be in the right place at sun-up, or visiting the beach as surf pounds in, come wind, rain or snow. These are all things that money cannot buy. When the elephant gets up on those waterskis you'd better be there.....
But you can prove all this to yourself. Put a row of your favourite photographs on a wall at home or work, say a dozen 11 x 17 prints. Watch what people say when they see them, which of them they like and why they like them. It's almost a guarantee that anyone who is not a photographer will never ask what camera you used. Or what settings. Or what post processing you made. Some of those people may even say you're a great photographer, and if your aim to is to be a good photographer, enjoy the praise - you're taking great photos.
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papybenenuts
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but a camera is only a tool !!!
i use just the best tool possible at the best price
i love to make a mix ... using my iphone , DSLR or my compact too ...
to have the best result possible ...
but if i have to have only one , i Think i'll go for the FZ1000 , it is like a Swiss knife , and the Price is ok ...
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i use just the best tool possible at the best price
i love to make a mix ... using my iphone , DSLR or my compact too ...
to have the best result possible ...
but if i have to have only one , i Think i'll go for the FZ1000 , it is like a Swiss knife , and the Price is ok ...
best regards
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GeraldW
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FZ1000 is still current in the States, and now finishing its fourth year. It was introduced in 2014.
I also have had many positive selling experiences and it has also afforded me the opportunity to learn the attributes of each camera/system. I'm a 70 year old photographer, and remember before Shutterbug and Ebay the camera stores were about the only place to get cash for you gear. Usually not worth selling because the offers were miniscule. The ability to Auction off your equipment has made the photo hobby that much more fun.
RA40
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Interesting and the way each of us pursues this varies greatly. For myself there is gear that allows certain freedoms-ease in getting the image that is in mind when the scene presents. I could make do with one camera though the question is would I, no.
The upcoming G1X-III does appear to have much of what I like in an integrated package. Whether I feel that urge to liquidate the G's and M for one, IDK at the moment. The SLR has a place that I don't see myself not having one.
The upcoming G1X-III does appear to have much of what I like in an integrated package. Whether I feel that urge to liquidate the G's and M for one, IDK at the moment. The SLR has a place that I don't see myself not having one.
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KeepCalm
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Like a chisel you need different sizes and shapes. The minimalist users should go on to a golf forum and tell everyone why they only need one club.
No android or mirrorless so not really looking at the alternatives. Seems a rather traditional backward looking choice to me.
Comparing the build quality of a Panasonic FZ1000 and a Swiss knife stretches the imagination a bit. More a mass produced clone of a Swiss knife I would think.
back to build quality and of course dumping old stock.
Your turn.
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papybenenuts
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thanks for your coments
best regards
best regards
GeraldW
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Rather a negative tone, don't you think? Uncharacteristic for you.
If you could only have one camera, and money was short, what would be your choice? Let's say $1000 USD complete including spare battery, filters, etc.
If you could only have one camera, and money was short, what would be your choice? Let's say $1000 USD complete including spare battery, filters, etc.
papybenenuts
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1000 USD
so good
pana FZ 2500
so good
pana FZ 2500
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KeepCalm
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What I bought which was a secondhand G3X for £449 with a 6 month shop guarantee. There is a local Colchester agent who are really good and I had some hot pixels fixed on a SX40 EVF fixed which a lot of makers will not touch under warranty. So if something goes wrong I will get it repaired. I just did not think the Panasonic was built with a long life in mind. I just felt the Canon looked a tougher bit of kit and i would have been a lot more nervous buying a secondhand FZ1000 and it has a shorter zoom. The performance of a FZ1000 is a lot higher I am sure as the G3X has deficiencies in focusing especially in the 2 focal zones you can select, centre or everything which make it a pig for BIF in anything but completely open sky. Not an ideal camera but good enough for me. I have a cheap adaptor which I cut down as it had a lip before the thread was reached and my protection filter had a narrow thread. If money is short you need something that lasts and some hope there is someone to repair it and the G3X wins there in my personal feelings for how the kit is put together and some weather sealing which is nice.
Sorry if I seem a bit tacky. Actually I am touched that you say uncharacteristic for me. I have my bad moments.
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GeraldW
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Indeed!!!
My wife has an old Canon A720IS that uses AA batteries. In that camera we use Energizer lithium batteries. They don't self discharge in the camera, and they give around 600 shots on a pair. She doesn't take many pictures and isn't motivated to manage the charge on rechargeables, so the AA's work perfectly. Her little camera bag has space for a spare pair, just in case. At $10 for 4 batteries combined with her low usage and a roughly 10 year life...
It's a stark contrast to all my rechargeable lithium ion batteries for my own cameras.
My wife has an old Canon A720IS that uses AA batteries. In that camera we use Energizer lithium batteries. They don't self discharge in the camera, and they give around 600 shots on a pair. She doesn't take many pictures and isn't motivated to manage the charge on rechargeables, so the AA's work perfectly. Her little camera bag has space for a spare pair, just in case. At $10 for 4 batteries combined with her low usage and a roughly 10 year life...
It's a stark contrast to all my rechargeable lithium ion batteries for my own cameras.
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Thomas McLean
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Clearly, no one camera is perfect. That said the best camera in the world is the one you have with you when you want to take a photo.
GeraldW
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Which is why I carry one in the car 24/7. I haven't used it even weekly; but on several occasions it has come in handy.
papybenenuts
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GeraldW
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Compared to other forums, this one has traditionally been one of the most civil and helpful. I always noted from your posts that you shared that. Hence my positive comment. Although, I'd guess we all have those days.
My own choice for the FZ1000 was made in March, 2015. At the time I was using a 70D kit with three lenses and a pair of Canon flash that were remote capable, and the camera could control them wirelessly. But just the camera and 2 lenses was still too large and heavy for me to take on air travel and I wanted a good camera for stills that would fit nicely in my carry-on bag.
Basically, what I wanted was a modern version of the old Canon Pro 1. What I thought of as the Pro 2; but which Canon never produced. I had tried the Panasonic FZ200 for that role, and it was close. Then the Sony RX10 and the Panasonic FZ1000 came out and I got to handle both at a local photo show. That experience and the reviews turned me to the FZ1000 and I bought one. I soon found the FZ1000 was at least as good as the 70D and also had the wireless control capability for flash. When I tested the FZ1000 against the 70D for resolution, the FZ1000 could resolve 20-25% more Lines/mm than the 70D. I sold the 70D, and its lenses and flash and bought a pair of used Olympus FL36R flashes. That was two and a half years ago, and I don't miss the DSLR.
As to build quality, I had been using Panasonic and Canon "super zooms" for several years with no problems; and the FZ1000 was a cut above those in build quality, so it doesn't bother me a bit.
I am also pleased enough with the FZ1000 and its 1" sensor, that I bought a Canon G7X II to have a pocketable version. Image quality is very comparable. Ironically, the G7X II has caused me to go back to the FZ200 as its companion on travel as I no longer need the FZ1000 to give me the high quality images, and the FZ200 is lighter, longer, and more compact and produces very good image quality in decent light.
The FZ200 and the G7X II together weigh almost exactly the same as the FZ1000 alone.
My own choice for the FZ1000 was made in March, 2015. At the time I was using a 70D kit with three lenses and a pair of Canon flash that were remote capable, and the camera could control them wirelessly. But just the camera and 2 lenses was still too large and heavy for me to take on air travel and I wanted a good camera for stills that would fit nicely in my carry-on bag.
Basically, what I wanted was a modern version of the old Canon Pro 1. What I thought of as the Pro 2; but which Canon never produced. I had tried the Panasonic FZ200 for that role, and it was close. Then the Sony RX10 and the Panasonic FZ1000 came out and I got to handle both at a local photo show. That experience and the reviews turned me to the FZ1000 and I bought one. I soon found the FZ1000 was at least as good as the 70D and also had the wireless control capability for flash. When I tested the FZ1000 against the 70D for resolution, the FZ1000 could resolve 20-25% more Lines/mm than the 70D. I sold the 70D, and its lenses and flash and bought a pair of used Olympus FL36R flashes. That was two and a half years ago, and I don't miss the DSLR.
As to build quality, I had been using Panasonic and Canon "super zooms" for several years with no problems; and the FZ1000 was a cut above those in build quality, so it doesn't bother me a bit.
I am also pleased enough with the FZ1000 and its 1" sensor, that I bought a Canon G7X II to have a pocketable version. Image quality is very comparable. Ironically, the G7X II has caused me to go back to the FZ200 as its companion on travel as I no longer need the FZ1000 to give me the high quality images, and the FZ200 is lighter, longer, and more compact and produces very good image quality in decent light.
The FZ200 and the G7X II together weigh almost exactly the same as the FZ1000 alone.
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