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I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
 
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I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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There are many lenses in the line-up, both prima and zoom lenses. Have a look at any website of a camera shop to find the full line-up. Also, you can use your Canon lenses as well using an adapter. Furthermore, there are always lenses in development, we just do not know which ones, except for the 400/2.8 that will be released around the summer of 2018.
 
a nice but cheap 35/1.8 would be very welcome

i caved and got the 1.4, and i love it... but i know theres been many looking for a 1.8

our 50/1.8 is junk compared to the 85/1.8 :( slow focus, noisy... i love the 55/1.8 tho!
 
I left out the Sony FE 28 2 which is also a very good lens. A 35mm 1.8 and a good 50mm 1.4 would really round out lineup.

Canon has very good prime lenses just below the L series. Sony has started, just wish they would get around to releasing some more.
 
15mm Voigtländer, 18mm Batis, 21mm Loxia, FE28/2, FE35/2.8, FE55/1.8, FE85/1.8 and so on. Not to mention the GM zooms. All great lenses. You can't be serious.
 
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15mm Voigtländer, 18mm Batis, 21mm Loxia, FE28/2, FE35/2.8, FE55/1.8, FE85/1.8 and so on. Not to mention the GM zooms. All great lenses. You can't be serious.
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Firstly the voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are Sony lenses. Secondly I'm not talking about GM lenses I'm talking about mid tier lenses.

In Canon terms you normally have the top lenses in the L line, the cheap line and then there 8s a middle line. So for 50mm they have the 1.2L, the 1.4 and the 1.8.

Sony has started this with the 85mm, I'm questioning when they will roll this out to other lenses. There is a hole in the 35mm and 50mm lenses.
 
28/2, Samyang 35, Sony 50/1.8, 85/1.8 - it is all there. The only two lens really missing in low cost are a 24mm and a 135mm.
 
Hosko said:
I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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Quite a lot are looking for a 35mm f1.8.. Would be nice to see a lower cost version 35mm as the 35mm 1.4 is out of reach for some. And the 35mm f2.8 zeiss is premium for the focal length and speed.

24mm f2 and 135mm f2 are welcome too (size and cost to minimum)

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I am loving my FE 85 1.8. It's my first good native Sony lens (I have a debaffled SEL55210 just to mess around with).

As far as what I'd like down the line.... I'm probably going to get the Samyang 35/1.4 but I would like Sony to make an AF 35/2 just on principle.

I also hope they make a 24/2.8 that's compatible with the 28/2's wide angle converter. A 24/2 is unlikely as that would be the end of the crop Z24, and problematic for the Batis 25. 24 is very permitting with shutter speeds anyway. For me personally, 28 is just not wide enough, and 21 is just not ultrawide enough. 24 & 18 are better, though I wonder if 18 would be wide enough for me to ditch my good copy Samyang 14/2.8. If they made a WA adapter that brought that down to 16 I could jump.

We also need a kit grade 70-300. It's gotta be up to snuff though. 4.5-5.6; none of that 6.3 at the long end nonsense. That's a pretty bread and butter lens.

A nice, cheap, slow ultrawide prime would be good too. Something like a 15/3.5. Again between IBIS and the inherent stability of ultrawides crazy speed wouldn't be necessary. Though a SEL067UWC compatible 24mm would probably render that a bit redundant.

A midrange kit zoom (like a 24-85 3.5-4.5) would be good as well. Make it $600 and for God's sake make it good at the wide end.

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mcslsk said:
15mm Voigtländer, 18mm Batis, 21mm Loxia, FE28/2, FE35/2.8, FE55/1.8, FE85/1.8 and so on. Not to mention the GM zooms. All great lenses. You can't be serious.
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Firstly the voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are Sony lenses. Secondly I'm not talking about GM lenses I'm talking about mid tier lenses.

In Canon terms you normally have the top lenses in the L line, the cheap line and then there 8s a middle line. So for 50mm they have the 1.2L, the 1.4 and the 1.8.

Sony has started this with the 85mm, I'm questioning when they will roll this out to other lenses. There is a hole in the 35mm and 50mm lenses.
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Sony has a cheap 50 1.8. I agree about the 35 though. They have the crop and FE 50 so they should do the same with the 35.
 
Hosko said:
I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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SONY is trying to building their lens for pro users - mostly the sports - in time for the World Cup 2018 and their wide angle end to mid range end have been well covered by SONY, by Zeiss and by a few others (including Canon EF lenses) so what SONY lacks of is the tele primes - with 400/2.8 announced, my guess there will be a 200/2 or a 300/2.8 coming before mid 2018.
 
There is a cheap and pretty good 21mm adapter for the FE 28mm F2. But I agree, we really need a 35mm F1.8-2 that is the same price and quality of the 85mm F1.8.
 
Hosko said:
I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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Sony has introduced tons of lenses recently, what are you talking about? They may not be the ones you want (affordable wide aperture primes), but they doesn't mean they aren't releasing lenses.

Over the last two years I've heard nothing but "why aren't there professional zooms in E-Mount?" What does Sony do? Release a host of professional zooms that beat the snot out of both Canon and Nikon. Now we are in the next wave of lens requests - the "why aren't there more affordable f1.8 primes" group. Give it time and Sony will deliver.

This also doesn't factor in other manufacturers introducing lenses as well. Sigma is rumored to be working on a f1.4 35m ART lens in E-mount.
 
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28/2, Samyang 35, Sony 50/1.8, 85/1.8 - it is all there. The only two lens really missing in low cost are a 24mm and a 135mm.
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There is plenty of selection available and in Spring 2018 Sigma will probably release some FE FF lenses too.

Currently there is no need for complaints and the current selection of Sony lenses easily competes with Canon. It is a myth that Canon only produces top notch lenses. the 85 f/1.8 was always overrated - almost unrealistically good regarded as well as the 85 f/1.2 II - my GM 85 trumps it easily at a similar price point and the 85 f/1.8 is stunning quality for the price payed.

Loxia 21, CV 15 and 12-24 G - all masterpeices in optical and mechanical design. Add the 50 ZA and bring a 135 GM and we're done - I am sure a fast 135 will come soon - the only lens I am badly missing.

Last lens I'd need is a small and lightweight 300 f/4.0 or 400 f/4.x

BTW - the 12-24 is maybe the reason to use Sony FF - it is by far the lightest and smallest lens in this category and also maybe the best of the all - at least acc. to my testing.
 
Hosko said:
I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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Sony has released 27 fullframe FE lenses in the last 4 years with no plans to slow down.

In addition to the two lenses you mentioned, Sony's affordable primes line-up also includes the FE 28mm F2 and FE 50mm F1.8

Given their popularity, I'd expect more affordable FE primes in the future. In the mean time, there are lots of fullframe E-mount lenses both from Sony and third-parties.

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Hosko said:
I'm about to switch from a Canon 5D mk 3 to the A7r3. My first lens will be the excellent Sony FE 85 f 1.8, it seems odd that Sony hasn't released a whole line of other lenses in similar quality. There is the Sony FE 50 2.8 macro but why no others, I would think a 35, 24 and ultra wide would be very popular.
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I bought my A7rii in August 2015. At that time, there were very few native lenses other than the FE 28, 55, 35, 24-70 F4, 70-200 F4 and the FE 90 macro. Without any advance announcement, new lenses have been showing up rapidly. But there have always been the negative comparisons with Nikon and Canon SLR lines. In one sense, Sony FF is way ahead of Nikon and Canon in "true mirrorless FF lenses".

The Sony mirrorless lenses have been designed for lightweight linear focusing motors providing excellent fast tracking abilities. These new linear motors have been well-documented by lensrental blog documentation of teardowns starting in April 2015 https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/04/tearing-down-the-sony-24-70-f4-za-oss-vario-tessar/

The recent financial report on Sony as discussed in this forum, shows Sony making record making profits in every one of its divisions. So i advise a little bit of patience and a seatbelt because there is no evidence of Sony slowing down at all.

I'm very sympathetic to the need for reasonably priced lenses. Before there were any FE 85's, i purchased the Sigma MC-11 and the EF 85 f1.8. I've always intended to upgrade to the Sony 85 f1.8, but to be frank, there is nothing lacking for me in the Canon 85, about $380 new, other than eye-AF which i don't use on landscapes anyway. Slap 42mp on any lens, and the resolution is AMAZING. Lenses i'm considering next for me are the EF 100 f2, about $500 new, and the FE 24-105.

In short, the situation is very sweet for Sony mirrorless.
 
Hosko said:
mcslsk said:
15mm Voigtländer, 18mm Batis, 21mm Loxia, FE28/2, FE35/2.8, FE55/1.8, FE85/1.8 and so on. Not to mention the GM zooms. All great lenses. You can't be serious.
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Firstly the voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are Sony lenses. Secondly I'm not talking about GM lenses I'm talking about mid tier lenses.

In Canon terms you normally have the top lenses in the L line, the cheap line and then there 8s a middle line. So for 50mm they have the 1.2L, the 1.4 and the 1.8.

Sony has started this with the 85mm, I'm questioning when they will roll this out to other lenses. There is a hole in the 35mm and 50mm lenses.
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Yeah the lack of 35mm 1.8 seems really strange... I hope Sony address this and don't make it so the f2.8 is the second best option to the f1.4.
 
Hosko said:
mcslsk said:
15mm Voigtländer, 18mm Batis, 21mm Loxia, FE28/2, FE35/2.8, FE55/1.8, FE85/1.8 and so on. Not to mention the GM zooms. All great lenses. You can't be serious.
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Firstly the voigtlander and Zeiss lenses are Sony lenses. Secondly I'm not talking about GM lenses I'm talking about mid tier lenses.

In Canon terms you normally have the top lenses in the L line, the cheap line and then there 8s a middle line. So for 50mm they have the 1.2L, the 1.4 and the 1.8.

Sony has started this with the 85mm, I'm questioning when they will roll this out to other lenses. There is a hole in the 35mm and 50mm lenses.
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Well don't forget Canon has had decades to develop these lenses, Sony has a lot of E mount for the number of years it has existed.

You think you have problems, the last Sony APS-C E mount lens was released around 4 years ago. Many of the APS-C users are highly annoyed while Sony continues to release very expensive full-frame lenses. We don't even have a decent kit zoom - the kit zoom is lousy optically, the PZ 18-105 is best price/optics but large, and the Zeiss 16-70 is almost a grand, only fair for the price, and often decentered.
 
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