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Hi All,
Hoping someone here can shed some light on my issue


I have a new D7500. I want to use my Ipad to control the camera via a 3rd party app.


I have a bunch of D750's and a D7200 and they all quickly and easily connect to the ipads via a wifi connection. It only takes a few seconds to establish a connection.


I thought the D7500 was an upgrade to the D7200. However it appears that Nikon have removed the previous (and very user friendly) way of connecting via wifi. I now have to use the snapbridge app.


This is not a pairing issue though. I quickly paired the ipad to the camera. The very first time after pairing I established a connection. Every time since then I cannot establish a connection. i just get the constant spinning wheel and then a message saying that it won't connect.


I have looked online and can see that Snapbridge doesn't have many fans. I'm hoping someone here may have had the issue and found a solution.


The D7500 is basically useless to my needs if I cannot establish a connection to the Ipad, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
AllanW said:
Hi All,
Hoping someone here can shed some light on my issue

I have a new D7500. I want to use my Ipad to control the camera via a 3rd party app.

I have a bunch of D750's and a D7200 and they all quickly and easily connect to the ipads via a wifi connection. It only takes a few seconds to establish a connection.

I thought the D7500 was an upgrade to the D7200. However it appears that Nikon have removed the previous (and very user friendly) way of connecting via wifi. I now have to use the snapbridge app.

This is not a pairing issue though. I quickly paired the ipad to the camera. The very first time after pairing I established a connection. Every time since then I cannot establish a connection. i just get the constant spinning wheel and then a message saying that it won't connect.

I have looked online and can see that Snapbridge doesn't have many fans. I'm hoping someone here may have had the issue and found a solution.

The D7500 is basically useless to my needs if I cannot establish a connection to the Ipad, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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SnapBridge is not exactly one of Nikon’s triumphs. The SnapBridge app should give you the ability to control the camera though.

I did see somewhere that it was possible to use SnapBridge to establish the WiFi connection and then (somehow) use the old app to expose it to 3rd party apps. You might be able to track that down but sounds like a big cludge to me.

Otherwise, reverting to a WiFi card (Toshiba Flashair W-04 802.11n class now available) might work.

But, to be honest, I gave up on all that and reverted to my D7200 when I want to work with a WiFi connection. As you say, that worked just fine! (I was using ShutterSnitch.)
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How does this exactly work? Only thing I want to do is to download a small jpg copy to ipad/iphone or amdroid. I know snapbridge does it when it works.
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It works in the same way as the old eyefi cards worked. An SD card with a built in WiFi transceiver that creates a WiFi network. Use camera to take photos and ensure photos are written to the SD slot (directly or by copying to that slot from XQD - Easiest way for your purpose is to write say small jpeg to the SD card). Connect to that WiFi network from your phone. Use app (provided by card mfr or 3rd party) to copy stuff off the card and do whatever after. I’d previously used a 3rd party app called ShutterSnitch which allows you to view / share images and do a lot of the distribution automatically. I used to send RAW copies to Dropbox and FTP images automatically so they could be displayed near real time! (For the latter I tended to use small jpeg sent by 4G mobile as that was fine)

In otherwords it exactly does what SnapBridge should have done! (I use this on a D7200 without issue and with minimum fuss._

(It’s not a camera remote control solution though.)

If I get this working with D500 over the next few days I’ll post up some info.
jeminijoseph said:
Thanks in advance

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Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
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Thank you very much for the info. So I have to get SD card with wifi. If it work always unlike SnapBridge, this is exactly what I need.

Please post your findings on D500.
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Will do. Amazon just told me it had been delivered;-)
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Great. What particular card did you buy? I'm thinking of getting one card anyway..
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I’ve just got the Toshiba FlashAir W-04 (64Gb). There are relatively few of these cards about - eyefi was acquired by Toshiba a while back.

The W-04 is quite new and gives 802.11n class. That’s quite a step up from any other card I’ve seen which were all 802.11g (Toshiba’s W-03 is that standard - so be careful). I think ‘n’ is important as, frankly ‘g’ is distinctly sluggish with big files - though it was fine with small jpegs so you may feel that’s enough.

I’ll know more when I’ve tried it so all the above should have big health warnings attached.

In theory, the market for these cards should well and truly disappeared with built in wifi but it seems that all manufacturers haven’t exactly covered themselves with glory here.
jeminijoseph said:
jeminijoseph said:
jeminijoseph said:
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Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
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Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
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Richard B99 said:
I’ve just got the Toshiba FlashAir W-04 (64Gb). There are relatively few of these cards about - eyefi was acquired by Toshiba a while back.

The W-04 is quite new and gives 802.11n class. That’s quite a step up from any other card I’ve seen which were all 802.11g (Toshiba’s W-03 is that standard - so be careful). I think ‘n’ is important as, frankly ‘g’ is distinctly sluggish with big files - though it was fine with small jpegs so you may feel that’s enough.

I’ll know more when I’ve tried it so all the above should have big health warnings attached.

In theory, the market for these cards should well and truly disappeared with built in wifi but it seems that all manufacturers haven’t exactly covered themselves with glory here.
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Just meant as a heads up, there's a project called 'eyefiserver':

https://github.com/dgrant/eyefiserver2

which consists of a python script that can download the files from an (old) EyeFi card. Got it to work once on a RaspberryPi with an (old) Toshiba card and it worked well, but the project I was working on didn't hatch. I seem to remember EyeFi changed some things so it may not work with newer cards.
 
I have skimmed, but not "thoroughly" read this thread, but I have not seen the following information posted here. It is from an old snapbridge related DPR thread ... posted last year sometime, which I happen to have saved content from. I don't remember who posted it, but the credit is NOT mine.

"If your timers in camera menu C are set to very short delays, there is insufficient time for Bluetooth to connect before it goes back into low power mode. If you can keep Bluetooth icon showing in Snapbridge for long enough, initiating WiFi will work every time." ... "The camera will not connect Bluetooth if you have the timer at 6 secs and connection is sporadic at 10 secs."

So, setting your Standby timer (c2 for D500) and Monitor off delay> Menus (c4 for D500) for longer timeouts (try 30 sec and 1 minute respectively for starters - you can experiment and reduce these later), should allow enough time for you to connect WiFi successfully.

The default settings on a new camera are shorter than would be needed to consistently achieve WiFi connection.

Hope this information helps those interested.

Cheers,

Arnie
 
jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
jeminijoseph said:
Richard B99 said:
AllanW said:
Hi All,
Hoping someone here can shed some light on my issue

I have a new D7500. I want to use my Ipad to control the camera via a 3rd party app.

I have a bunch of D750's and a D7200 and they all quickly and easily connect to the ipads via a wifi connection. It only takes a few seconds to establish a connection.

I thought the D7500 was an upgrade to the D7200. However it appears that Nikon have removed the previous (and very user friendly) way of connecting via wifi. I now have to use the snapbridge app.

This is not a pairing issue though. I quickly paired the ipad to the camera. The very first time after pairing I established a connection. Every time since then I cannot establish a connection. i just get the constant spinning wheel and then a message saying that it won't connect.

I have looked online and can see that Snapbridge doesn't have many fans. I'm hoping someone here may have had the issue and found a solution.

The D7500 is basically useless to my needs if I cannot establish a connection to the Ipad, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
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SnapBridge is not exactly one of Nikon’s triumphs. The SnapBridge app should give you the ability to control the camera though.

I did see somewhere that it was possible to use SnapBridge to establish the WiFi connection and then (somehow) use the old app to expose it to 3rd party apps. You might be able to track that down but sounds like a big cludge to me.

Otherwise, reverting to a WiFi card (Toshiba Flashair W-04 802.11n class now available) might work.

But, to be honest, I gave up on all that and reverted to my D7200 when I want to work with a WiFi connection. As you say, that worked just fine! (I was using ShutterSnitch.)
Click to expand...
How does this exactly work? Only thing I want to do is to download a small jpg copy to ipad/iphone or amdroid. I know snapbridge does it when it works.
Click to expand...
It works in the same way as the old eyefi cards worked. An SD card with a built in WiFi transceiver that creates a WiFi network. Use camera to take photos and ensure photos are written to the SD slot (directly or by copying to that slot from XQD - Easiest way for your purpose is to write say small jpeg to the SD card). Connect to that WiFi network from your phone. Use app (provided by card mfr or 3rd party) to copy stuff off the card and do whatever after. I’d previously used a 3rd party app called ShutterSnitch which allows you to view / share images and do a lot of the distribution automatically. I used to send RAW copies to Dropbox and FTP images automatically so they could be displayed near real time! (For the latter I tended to use small jpeg sent by 4G mobile as that was fine)

In otherwords it exactly does what SnapBridge should have done! (I use this on a D7200 without issue and with minimum fuss._

(It’s not a camera remote control solution though.)

If I get this working with D500 over the next few days I’ll post up some info.
jeminijoseph said:
Thanks in advance

--
Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
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Thank you very much for the info. So I have to get SD card with wifi. If it work always unlike SnapBridge, this is exactly what I need.

Please post your findings on D500.
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First impressions posted here:

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www.dpreview.com
jeminijoseph said:
jeminijoseph said:
Will do. Amazon just told me it had been delivered;-)
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Great. What particular card did you buy? I'm thinking of getting one card anyway..
jeminijoseph said:
jeminijoseph said:
--
Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
Click to expand...
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--
Thanks
Jemini Joseph
http://wildbirdimages.com/
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arniebook said:
I have skimmed, but not "thoroughly" read this thread, but I have not seen the following information posted here. It is from an old snapbridge related DPR thread ... posted last year sometime, which I happen to have saved content from. I don't remember who posted it, but the credit is NOT mine.

"If your timers in camera menu C are set to very short delays, there is insufficient time for Bluetooth to connect before it goes back into low power mode. If you can keep Bluetooth icon showing in Snapbridge for long enough, initiating WiFi will work every time." ... "The camera will not connect Bluetooth if you have the timer at 6 secs and connection is sporadic at 10 secs."

So, setting your Standby timer (c2 for D500) and Monitor off delay> Menus (c4 for D500) for longer timeouts (try 30 sec and 1 minute respectively for starters - you can experiment and reduce these later), should allow enough time for you to connect WiFi successfully.

The default settings on a new camera are shorter than would be needed to consistently achieve WiFi connection.

Hope this information helps those interested.

Cheers,

Arnie
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I’m afraid that I’ve had some pretty bad / spotty experiences with Snap Bridge on my IPad. All after doing some rather extensive research to see if I was missing something. I’ve never had any luck getting it to transfer photos reliably. To be honest, I gave up on Snap Bridge and simply started using the USB cable to transfer photos to my IPad. Works perfectly and it’s much faster.
 
What it boils down to is that the D7500 is a downgrade from the D7200.

Not just the wifi issue, only one card slot etc.

They brought the D500 but downgraded D7500 to suit.

This is where the competition will get in, by taking advantage of consumers annoyance.

On a thread a couple of weeks ago someone wondered why the D7200 resale value is still high.

Well, when the D7200 is better than its 'replacement', the reason is not hard to figure out.

No one will sell their D7200 for the D7500. And those who have their D7200 know what they have, an excellent camera.
 
ImageAmateur said:
What it boils down to is that the D7500 is a downgrade from the D7200.

Not just the wifi issue, only one card slot etc.

They brought the D500 but downgraded D7500 to suit.

This is where the competition will get in, by taking advantage of consumers annoyance.

On a thread a couple of weeks ago someone wondered why the D7200 resale value is still high.

Well, when the D7200 is better than its 'replacement', the reason is not hard to figure out.

No one will sell their D7200 for the D7500. And those who have their D7200 know what they have, an excellent camera.

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Wishing You Good Light.
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It really is a joke and it's actually worse than just downgrading.... the problem with Nikon is the constant chopping and changing of features.

They don't have a road map that BUILDS ONTO the existing model. It's as if the morons in the marketing/sales division sit around for hours deciding which features they will enable and disable from model to model. This really make the upgrade path very difficult as things are always being changed ( usually for the worse).

As an example.... I also have the D7200. When I purchased the D7200 I didn't realise that the digital level was only one axis... I mean, what is the use of that? I made a stupid assumption that the digital level was the same 2 axis across all Nikon cameras. We have a bunch of D750's and they obviously have 2 axis levels. This is a BIG DEAL for us.

So recently, I needed another camera (lenses etc.) for a new employee. I asked about the 2 axis level on this forum and was told that the D7500 has it. So I think, OK great.... problem solved!

Now, I did realise that with the new model Nikon moved to one SD card, which is a pain and a step backwards, BUT, I was prepared to forgo that in order to get the 2 axis level. I also realised that Nikon made a move to Snapbridge... I thought, no problem, we will use that instead of the existing wifi setup. Unfortunately the reality is that they removed a perfectly functioning wifi system and replaced it with a totally useless Snapbridge system. It simply doesn't work!

So now, as a result of Nikon essentially being stingy/sneaky with their "features" upgrade path we are forced into a situation where (if Snapbridge remains as is) we will need to move away from Nikon for all future purchases.

I'm sure Nikon won't give a rats about us moving away but it all adds up. Within our business we currently have around 10 cameras plus all the lenses flashes etc. that go with the Nikon system. They will all need replacing over time and with the disabling of the wifi system we will have no choice but to change brands.

All this because of Nikon's head office choices. Their cameras are amazing but managements decision to constantly cripple instead of building upon the existing system/model is forcing us away.

Anyway. this has turned into a rant which is not the intention but it's hard not to be frustrated by all of this.
 
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AllanW said:
ImageAmateur said:
What it boils down to is that the D7500 is a downgrade from the D7200.

Not just the wifi issue, only one card slot etc.

They brought the D500 but downgraded D7500 to suit.

This is where the competition will get in, by taking advantage of consumers annoyance.

On a thread a couple of weeks ago someone wondered why the D7200 resale value is still high.

Well, when the D7200 is better than its 'replacement', the reason is not hard to figure out.

No one will sell their D7200 for the D7500. And those who have their D7200 know what they have, an excellent camera.
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Hi guys,

I really appreciate all your comments above. I couldn't connect my iphone X to my D7500, though it had connected perfectly to the old iphone 6. But it no longer connected to the old phone either. The bluetooth on the camera just stayed grayed out. And the wifi and snapbridge connection didn't work.

SOLUTION! :

In SnapBridge, on the Camera tab, select the three dots ... at top right. Select Forget camera. Close SnapBridge on your phone and also remove it from the background.

Turn OFF bluetooth on the phone, then turn it back on again.

Relaunch SnapBridge and select Add Camera (in three dots menu at top right in Camera tab). Follow the prompts on camera and on phone.

Hope that works for you too.
 
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