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Rexgig0 said:
16MP has, usually, been plenty for me,
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Ditto :)
Rexgig0 said:
but having said that, perhaps the next iteration of the Df should have the D750 sensor, if not the D850 sensor.
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At the time the Df was released fairly close to the D800 - and we were starting to see concerns of older glass not resolving well enough to take advantage of the new 35MP sensor.

In retrospect I think it was very wise of them to put a 16MP piece in the Df which was marketed heavily to promote it's compatibility with older lenses.

It may have been strange to have a retro camera designed for older lenses, whilst only having the newest heavily corrected AF-S products on the recommended lens list :) - to this end, I don't think they will use the D850 sensor in any foreseeable Df product.

Of course, it was also a good idea to make further use of the fab beyond the D4 to help recuperate development costs of that outstanding sensor. A happy coinciding of circumstances that it was available. The 20MP D5 component may again make a good candidate, or perhaps the D5s depending on release schedule. Mind you, the D610/D750 24MP piece is also still remarkable - unless they want PDAF they're spoilt for choice :D
Rexgig0 said:
Realistically, however, I think the Df may be a one-off, as was the FM3A.
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Sad that they couldn't muster up a new Df - or even a re-issued film camera for the 100th anniversary. It really feels like a non-event.
 
I've deliberately bought D lenses for the Df. They just feel right on the Df and, with actual aperture rings, make operating the camera almost like the old days.
 
Richard Thornton said:
I've deliberately bought D lenses for the Df. They just feel right on the Df and, with actual aperture rings, make operating the camera almost like the old days.
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MrScrooge said:
Rexgig0 said:
16MP has, usually, been plenty for me,
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Ditto :)
MrScrooge said:
but having said that, perhaps the next iteration of the Df should have the D750 sensor, if not the D850 sensor.
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At the time the Df was released fairly close to the D800 - and we were starting to see concerns of older glass not resolving well enough to take advantage of the new 35MP sensor.

In retrospect I think it was very wise of them to put a 16MP piece in the Df which was marketed heavily to promote it's compatibility with older lenses.

It may have been strange to have a retro camera designed for older lenses, whilst only having the newest heavily corrected AF-S products on the recommended lens list :) - to this end, I don't think they will use the D850 sensor in any foreseeable Df product.

Of course, it was also a good idea to make further use of the fab beyond the D4 to help recuperate development costs of that outstanding sensor. A happy coinciding of circumstances that it was available. The 20MP D5 component may again make a good candidate, or perhaps the D5s depending on release schedule. Mind you, the D610/D750 24MP piece is also still remarkable - unless they want PDAF they're spoilt for choice :D
MrScrooge said:
Realistically, however, I think the Df may be a one-off, as was the FM3A.
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Sad that they couldn't muster up a new Df - or even a re-issued film camera for the 100th anniversary. It really feels like a non-event.
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I think that it proves people seem to be bent on pixels and the notion that this camera was supposed to compete with the modern DSLRs. The fact that it didn't sell well just proves it was a niche camera.

Honestly, there are a lot of folks who dont care for nor want gobs of pixels, they pretty much come at the cost of noise performance and more often than not, get thrown away to display on web which is the second most prominent place they go behind the bit bucket where most never make it.
 
nuke12 said:
I don't think there will be a Df2. I know many people really liked the camera but the sales were never that great. Nikon makes cameras to sell and not because a small group of people like a camera. I'm sure that if the Df had sold like the D800 or even the D810, you'd be seeing a Df2.
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lotboy said:
You dont still see the problem.. 16MP and ten years old autofocus system LoL..
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Surely whether these are a "problem" is a decision for an individual photographer ;-)

16x24 prints are not difficult with this specification.

Some photographers may prefer "traditional" handling bodies similar to the film era, and may not make 30 inch wide prints. Being able to easily make a 30 inch wide print is not the same as good photographic composition etc before printing 30 inches wide.

There is a niche market for the Df for a niche type of photographer.
 
Leonard Shepherd said:
lotboy said:
You dont still see the problem.. 16MP and ten years old autofocus system LoL..
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Surely whether these are a "problem" is a decision for an individual photographer ;-)

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I think Nikon's declaration on sales of DF explains decision of all photographers. Noone cares how many DF will be sold to able to buy the successor. What a weird strategy, LoL.
 
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Flat Earther said:
nuke12 said:
I don't think there will be a Df2. I know many people really liked the camera but the sales were never that great. Nikon makes cameras to sell and not because a small group of people like a camera. I'm sure that if the Df had sold like the D800 or even the D810, you'd be seeing a Df2.
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The price was too steep for what the camera offered in features.
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The consumer speaks by buying or not. I don't see a problem. A lot of people really liked the camera and D4 sensor. Not enough buyers but the people that did buy, seem to love the camera.

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nuke12 said:
The problem was/is yours. You didn't/don't understand who the camera was meant for. Obviously, not you. If a person wanted all the latest tricks at that time then there were lots of cameras to buy.
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Enjoy oldie tech, then

Best
 
lotboy said:
lotboy said:
The problem was/is yours. You didn't/don't understand who the camera was meant for. Obviously, not you. If a person wanted all the latest tricks at that time then there were lots of cameras to buy.
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Enjoy oldie tech, then
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I've never owned the camera, nor is it a camera that I want to own. The camera does/did not appeal to me but I understand who it was made for and why many would like it.
 
lotboy said:
lotboy said:
The problem was/is yours. You didn't/don't understand who the camera was meant for. Obviously, not you. If a person wanted all the latest tricks at that time then there were lots of cameras to buy.
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Enjoy oldie tech, then

Best
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It’s a retro camera. Who do you think the core customer is? That’s right, people who enjoy retro things.

Of course they’re going to enjoy their “oldie tech”, with or without your endorsement.
 
Murray Bowles said:
on the contrary , the sensor is the best thing about the Df
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I don't have one but the reason I keep considering one is the weight. It's lighter and more compact than a D610 so as a spare body it makes a lot of sense or as a walkabout.

My head has stopped me because of the focusing and single card slot. My heart still wants one, I love the shutter sound and every time I see someone with one I think they know something I don't.

I hope they don't release a new one. I definitely hope it does not have a D750 sensor, dual card slots and D4 or D5 AF, because the decision would be made for me.
 
I was "all for" a DF , when it was announced , but was blinded by all the hate towards it and sat on the fence for over a year ,but when i saw some of the images produced from it , I took the plunge , its a fantastic camera, I traded a D800 in for it and was over the moon with my decision, I am a bit "OLD" myself and remembered the "OLD" controls, so the layout was immediately familiar, got down to shooting and for the first time in years i was enjoying my photography again, however while on a break (down on the coast) i thought it was a bit shy on the megapixels, and I bought a D810 for that side of the hobby, but a year later i realized that as good as the D810 was I was not using it , so its gone back , traded it for a couple of lenses , so I am back with the DF only , and no longer miss the high MP count. the sensor is superb, and out of camera Jpegs are simply stunning in every aspect ,lately I have been visiting rugby matches with my missus, and the DF is just so convenient, lightweight, great even with a 70-200 2.8 , and the focus, dispite all the negative publicity it gets has never let me down , tracking perfectly even in pretty dim light etc.

glad to be out of the race of always wanting the latest/greatest. and if Nikon does not produce a successor, I will be getting a second DF.



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Oh yeah, with a light prime, the Df is great fun. It's when you mount, say, a Tamron 24-70, not to mention a big tele, that you long for a modern grip.
 
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