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SD14 full spectrum to mono and mention of a cat . .
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G Radford
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G Radford
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Ted, Your X3F file, shows that it was shot with a Auto WB setting, which always produces a monochrome magenta output. Custom WB works better, and sets up the EIR colors, in-camera. I always use SPP, but you're welcome to experiment with one of my SD15 X3F files (shot in CWB mode), using any of your raw converters.Pardon the big snip, Gary!
Last time I spoke to Iliah Borg, that app. reads from the embedded JPEG, so there would indeed be no green or very little of it.
Here's the raw histogram for my chicken pic:
Here's the X3F if you would like to open it in FastPictureViewer:
http://kronometric.org/phot/xfer/SDIM8212.X3F
Here's the embedded JPEG with it's green histogram.
Unless FastPictureViewer has changed, I suspect that the green channel will look like the above and not like the "green" in the in the RawDigger histogram I've just posted. When all the green that was in the raw (camera space) gets pushed down toward zero, that indicates to me that a conversion to RGB had taken place. Of course, green material with no or little IR reflectance should still be converted to green.
Would be interested to know what FastPictureViewer makes of my X3F, if you get a minute.
Not criticizing your own method in any way, Gary, and not pushing mine as "better", just trying keep the record updated re FastPictureViewer.
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Ted
X3F file - SD15, CWB, no filter
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I don't understand that at all, sorry Gary. It was definitely not shot in AWB.
Aghast, I downloaded that same X3F, opened it in SPP 5.5.3, and it clearly says "Custom":
So I must ask where you got "Auto" WB from??
Meanwhile, I'll check the EXIF and the meta-data also . . .
In the EXIF it says "Manual", in the MakerNotes it says "Custom".
In the meta-data header it says "Custom".
I'll mention that setting up EIR colors is not my personal goal, so I'm treating guidance in that direction for information only (albeit useful).
Thanks for the X3F - lovely foliage color!
I just took a peek at your shot in SPP and realized how significant your Custom capture was. In the meta-data, your RGB coefficents were 0.99, 1.5, 1.94. Mine were nowhere near as fierce . . will have to investigate that sometime . .
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Ted
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G Radford
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The exif info is displayed in FPV. My DP1 and SD15 X3F files are all shown as "Manual WB"...your SD14 X3F is "Auto WB".I don't understand that at all, sorry. It was not shot in AWB.Ted, Your X3F file, shows that it was shot with a Auto WB setting . . .Pardon the big snip, Gary!
Last time I spoke to Iliah Borg, that app. reads from the embedded JPEG, so there would indeed be no green or very little of it.
Here's the raw histogram for my chicken pic:
Here's the X3F if you would like to open it in FastPictureViewer:
http://kronometric.org/phot/xfer/SDIM8212.X3F
Here's the embedded JPEG with it's green histogram.
Unless FastPictureViewer has changed, I suspect that the green channel will look like the above and not like the "green" in the in the RawDigger histogram I've just posted. When all the green that was in the raw (camera space) gets pushed down toward zero, that indicates to me that a conversion to RGB had taken place. Of course, green material with no or little IR reflectance should still be converted to green.
Would be interested to know what FastPictureViewer makes of my X3F, if you get a minute.
Not criticizing your own method in any way, Gary, and not pushing mine as "better", just trying keep the record updated re FastPictureViewer.
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Ted
Aghast, I downloaded that same X3F, opened it in SPP 5.5.3, and it clearly says "Custom":
So I must ask where you got "Auto" WB from??
Meanwhile, I'll check the EXIF and the meta-data also . . .
In the EXIF it says "Manual", in the MakerNotes it says "Custom".
In the meta-data header it says "Custom".
No problem.
You're welcome. Have fun! -Gary
FPV is wrong.The exif info is displayed in FPV. My DP1 and SD15 X3F files are all shown as "Manual WB"...your SD14 X3F is "Auto WB".I don't understand that at all, sorry. It was not shot in AWB.
Aghast, I downloaded that same X3F, opened it in SPP 5.5.3, and it clearly says "Custom":
So I must ask where you got "Auto" WB from??
Meanwhile, I'll check the EXIF and the meta-data also . . .
In the EXIF it says "Manual", in the MakerNotes it says "Custom".
In the meta-data header it says "Custom".
I just extracted the embedded JPEG using Kalpanika and ExifToolGUI tells me that the WB is Custom. Also please note that I have never set a camera color space to Adobe but there it is above, according to FPV. I don't know what else to tell you.
This one is also Custom and sRGB:
http://kronometric.org/phot/xfer/SDIM8221.X3F
What do you get from that? Maybe my other X3F was corrupted in some way . .
Oops, I got confused by all these initials and was thinking FRV, duh.
BTW, for Sigma, FPV says: "Preview Only (embedded jpeg is small on older cameras (SD9/10)" so at least I was right there...
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Ted
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G Radford
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You are right Ted. I attempted to edit your X3F file in SPP, then saved the results in the same folder as the raw file. FPV always displays, raw, tiff and jpg as one file. I deleted the saved tiff, and your X3F now reads correctly. My error, sorry about the confusion.FPV is wrong.The exif info is displayed in FPV. My DP1 and SD15 X3F files are all shown as "Manual WB"...your SD14 X3F is "Auto WB".I don't understand that at all, sorry. It was not shot in AWB.
Aghast, I downloaded that same X3F, opened it in SPP 5.5.3, and it clearly says "Custom":
So I must ask where you got "Auto" WB from??
Meanwhile, I'll check the EXIF and the meta-data also . . .
In the EXIF it says "Manual", in the MakerNotes it says "Custom".
In the meta-data header it says "Custom".
I just extracted the embedded JPEG using Kalpanika and ExifToolGUI tells me that the WB is Custom. Also please note that I have never set a camera color space to Adobe but there it is above, according to FPV. I don't know what else to tell you.
This one is also Custom and sRGB:
http://kronometric.org/phot/xfer/SDIM8221.X3F
What do you get from that? Maybe my other X3F was corrupted in some way . .
I strongly suggest that you take it up with Iliah or Alex because you did pay money for FPV and what I see above is unacceptable.
Oops, I got confused by all these initials and was thinking FRV, duh.
BTW, for Sigma, FPV says: "Preview Only (embedded jpeg is small on older cameras (SD9/10)" so at least I was right there...
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Ted
I've used FPV for over 5yrs, and it really does it really does live up to it's name. -Gary
No problem Gary, I'm glad that we got it resolved.You are right Ted. I attempted to edit your X3F file in SPP, then saved the results in the same folder as the raw file. FPV always displays, raw, tiff and jpg as one file. I deleted the saved tiff, and your X3F now reads correctly. My error, sorry about the confusion.FPV is wrong.The exif info is displayed in FPV. My DP1 and SD15 X3F files are all shown as "Manual WB"...your SD14 X3F is "Auto WB".I don't understand that at all, sorry. It was not shot in AWB.
Aghast, I downloaded that same X3F, opened it in SPP 5.5.3, and it clearly says "Custom":
So I must ask where you got "Auto" WB from??
Meanwhile, I'll check the EXIF and the meta-data also . . .
In the EXIF it says "Manual", in the MakerNotes it says "Custom".
In the meta-data header it says "Custom".
I just extracted the embedded JPEG using Kalpanika and ExifToolGUI tells me that the WB is Custom. Also please note that I have never set a camera color space to Adobe but there it is above, according to FPV. I don't know what else to tell you.
This one is also Custom and sRGB:
http://kronometric.org/phot/xfer/SDIM8221.X3F
What do you get from that? Maybe my other X3F was corrupted in some way . .
I strongly suggest that you take it up with Iliah or Alex because you did pay money for FPV and what I see above is unacceptable.
Oops, I got confused by all these initials and was thinking FRV, duh.
BTW, for Sigma, FPV says: "Preview Only (embedded jpeg is small on older cameras (SD9/10)" so at least I was right there...
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Ted
I've used FPV for over 5yrs, and it really does it really does live up to it's name. -Gary
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Ted
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