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I'm not highly geeky when it comes to resolving power or pixel peeping. I've just had focus issues with older lenses on newer bodies. My old Nikkor 50mm 1.4 would only focus properly in live-view on my D7000. Had a bad back focus issue. Have an older Sigma F2.8 zoom that would never focus at infinity. You can always send the lens/body in for repair/resolution I suppose but at what cost if you are not using it every day? I hear complaints about newer lenses being kinda sterile compared to the images produced by older prime lenses. I love my prime lenses but they are of limited utility when you are working an event and I like being able to zoom/crop when taking landscape shots. Outside of a studio or other controlled setting the newer, better quality zoom lenses just make life so much easier and still produce great images but It's all a matter of your needs and style. Unless you are making a living selling huge fine-art prints I can't imagine there will be a significant difference between the usable output of older primes and newer zooms (pixel peeping aside). :)

Good shooting!
 
JoeNap2 said:
I hear complaints about newer lenses being kinda sterile compared to the images produced by older prime lenses.
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Honestly, I really don't know what people mean by "sterile" in this context. A lens can have a color cast which some people may like but objectively is a design defect; it can have poor resolution which may be anethema to the razor-sharp crowd; it can have distortions and aberrations that might create annoying fringes in the details.

One of the complaints I've heard leveled at Nikon's Standard setting for its Picture Controls is that it's too blah, slightly greenish, too "clinical" - often by Olympus and Canon folks who love the color twists in their rendering algorithms. Others in testing would note that Nikon color rendering is as often more accurate than the competition, and it's simple personal preference that's crashing the party.

If anything modern lenses are really rather neutral in their rendering. Which should be a good thing...
 
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Oh I've had my share of focus issues with D7000, luckily it's was just a matter of fine tuning and some practice with nervous AF point. That's what I was thinking, settling with mixture of older primes and some Samyangs since I don't mind using MF and them make some great affordable lenses that otherwise would be completely of of my reach. I'm not really doing anything that requires a fast AF and convenience of zooms.
To be completely honest, a little bit of restriction by primes and MF makes it all a bit more interesting and sparks a bit more creativity for me.

Thou we strayed a little bit away from body to lenses, I needed a little bit of push towards D600 as I'll need to "sacrifice" my whole DX bag (thou a small one but still valuable to me) to make this work out financially.


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qunamax said:
I'm having this idea these days of selling my D7000, Tamron 17-50 f.28 and 55-300VR and grabbing a used D600. I will keep 50mm 1.8D and Samyang 85mm f1.4.
What I'm looking for is to further thin out DOF (oh such a cliche).
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Do you really want thinner DOF, or more subject isolation? Get a good 70-200/2.8 lens and use it on your DX camera and you should be able to get beautiful shots.
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Also I'd like to have more PP room from FX sensor and more resolution as it'll help me a great bit with stock.
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You should also being thinking about equivalence as you approach this, and the most cost effective way to achieve that. With better lenses and newer DX camera you can significantly improve your image quality at a lower long term cost. Basically, all things equal, going FX starts out costing you about an extra $1000 over going DX
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My main interest are full figure portraits. I also shoot a fair amount of landscapes and that's going to be a problem with this switch as I won't have any wider FX lens and anything similar to Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is pricey for FX.
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Think lenses first, camera second. The Sigma 18-35/1.8 lens would be a perfect fit for a lot of what you are describing here.
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So I was thinking of using old Nikon 18-70mm in a crop mode as an first aid until I get at least Nikon 24-85mm.
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I have the 18-70 and have tried a couple of copies of the non-VR 24-85 on my D800, and I have sent those 24-85 lenses back because even on my D800 they are weak outside the center at the wider focal lengths (and I mean weak at any aperture). What will happen initially here is that you will lose resolution with the 18-70 and you won't get back the edge performance (my experience is it got worse) with the 24-85.
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Does this have any logic with you guys or am I just having a gear fever?
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You are going to break the bank to buy a more expensive camera, and start out with fewer lenses that will cost more to replace. No, I don't think you've thought this through enough. You can argue about my advice to buy better lenses instead, but I'm saying you buy the horse before the cart. Yes, the Sigma 18-35/1.8 is a cropped sensor lens, but you can always sell it later and get most of your money back if you do decide to go FX. The thing is, going FX is going to cost you more money over the long run to get back to what you would have with that Sigma lens on your current camera.
 
qunamax said:
I'm having this idea these days of selling my D7000, Tamron 17-50 f.28 and 55-300VR and grabbing a used D600. I will keep 50mm 1.8D and Samyang 85mm f1.4.
What I'm looking for is to further thin out DOF (oh such a cliche). Also I'd like to have more PP room from FX sensor and more resolution as it'll help me a great bit with stock. My main interest are full figure portraits. I also shoot a fair amount of landscapes and that's going to be a problem with this switch as I won't have any wider FX lens and anything similar to Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is pricey for FX.
So I was thinking of using old Nikon 18-70mm in a crop mode as an first aid until I get at least Nikon 24-85mm.
Does this have any logic with you guys or am I just having a gear fever?
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qunamax said:
I'm having this idea these days of selling my D7000, Tamron 17-50 f.28 and 55-300VR and grabbing a used D600. I will keep 50mm 1.8D and Samyang 85mm f1.4.
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I went from a D7000 w/ Sigma 18-50 2.8, to D600 with 24-85 VR and mostly prime lenses. I since move to Micro 4/3.

Will it make a difference? Yes, for your stated purpose it's an eye-popping difference with the right lens. To be honest you won't see much difference between the 24-85 and the Tamron 17-50, which is in actuality probably a sharper lens. I would lean towards fast primes for your use where you will see a big, obvious difference.

Your old 50mm 1.8D will also be an improvement but for slightly more dough the 50 1.8G is a lot better. I measured them directly and it's not even close.

Greg
 
I did it, just got D610 last night, sold D7000 and traded two lens and some cash for D610. So far can't tell much, I didn't have to time to try it out properly.
What I observed on camera monitor is the 50mm 1.8D actually has some vignetting which didn't really show on DX :), but boy it looks a lot sharper. Also tried a couple of shots in very low lit room with 85mm 1.4, despite high iso, noise is very low while retaining good DR, also looks a lot sharper.
D610 is considerably bigger than D7000, especially the front, 50mm 1.8D looks very tiny and awkward on it, quite funny.
Can't wait to do some real shots.
I won't be saying my gooodbye to this forum thou, still have my D40 :)

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qunamax said:
I did it, just got D610 last night, sold D7000 and traded two lens and some cash for D610. So far can't tell much, I didn't have to time to try it out properly.
What I observed on camera monitor is the 50mm 1.8D actually has some vignetting which didn't really show on DX :), but boy it looks a lot sharper. Also tried a couple of shots in very low lit room with 85mm 1.4, despite high iso, noise is very low while retaining good DR, also looks a lot sharper.
D610 is considerably bigger than D7000, especially the front, 50mm 1.8D looks very tiny and awkward on it, quite funny.
Can't wait to do some real shots.
I won't be saying my gooodbye to this forum thou, still have my D40 :)
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Let us know your thoughts after you've had a chance to put the Nikon D610 through its paces! :)

Take care & Happy Shooting!
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I sure will, with some photos too. :)
 
qunamax said:
I'm having this idea these days of selling my D7000, Tamron 17-50 f.28 and 55-300VR and grabbing a used D600. I will keep 50mm 1.8D and Samyang 85mm f1.4.
What I'm looking for is to further thin out DOF (oh such a cliche). Also I'd like to have more PP room from FX sensor and more resolution as it'll help me a great bit with stock. My main interest are full figure portraits. I also shoot a fair amount of landscapes and that's going to be a problem with this switch as I won't have any wider FX lens and anything similar to Tamron 17-50 f2.8 is pricey for FX.
So I was thinking of using old Nikon 18-70mm in a crop mode as an first aid until I get at least Nikon 24-85mm.
Does this have any logic with you guys or am I just having a gear fever?
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Thanks for the comment, I've already stretched as much as I could and a little bit more and got D610. Loving it, can't wait the weekend to do some real shooting! Both of the primes I kept are working and looking great with it. 50mm is a lot more useful now too. The combination of thinner DOF and larger FOV is just amazing, makes isolation a lot easier now.
 
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