Software locking for your DSLR, mirrorless etc? Would you use it?

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Unfortunately when I think about bringing camera gear (obvious camera bag) to certain places, even in broad daylight with tons of camera users, even in big cities like SF, I always think about robbery mugging, because it is real potential risk. Locally there were even robbers that held active news crews at gun point and stole their equipment. I even heard of robbers following film crews to residential filming spots and robbing them once them go into a residence.

So since most secure their smartphone with a password, with the ability to render the device useless without proper authorization, why not protect expensive gear by the same methods.

Even OLD OLD cheap laptops and hard drives have this form of security. For example Thinkpad.

I personally would love to see the this implemented. Maybe even data security feature.

I'm sure it's been thought of, but haven't seen much discussion.
 
My first thought: What! Tap a six-digit code onto the screen every time I want to take a photo? No way!

My second thought: Perhaps something less intrusive. A remote fob, or fingerprint reader on the shutter release would not be a problem.

My third thought: Would it make a difference? The thief runs off with your DSLR. Five minutes later they find it's locked. Splash! Another one at the bottom of the river.
 
My first thought: What! Tap a six-digit code onto the screen every time I want to take a photo? No way!

My second thought: Perhaps something less intrusive. A remote fob, or fingerprint reader on the shutter release would not be a problem.

My third thought: Would it make a difference? The thief runs off with your DSLR. Five minutes later they find it's locked. Splash! Another one at the bottom of the river.
 
Unfortunately when I think about bringing camera gear (obvious camera bag) to certain places, even in broad daylight with tons of camera users, even in big cities like SF, I always think about robbery mugging, because it is real potential risk. Locally there were even robbers that held active news crews at gun point and stole their equipment. I even heard of robbers following film crews to residential filming spots and robbing them once them go into a residence.

So since most secure their smartphone with a password, with the ability to render the device useless without proper authorization, why not protect expensive gear by the same methods.

Even OLD OLD cheap laptops and hard drives have this form of security. For example Thinkpad.

I personally would love to see the this implemented. Maybe even data security feature.

I'm sure it's been thought of, but haven't seen much discussion.
No security system can overcome human stupidity, the sort of stupidity where people leave their valuables on display in their car, or walking around dodgy areas with expensive gear. Opportunists will steal relatively easy to conceal valuables no matter what security you put them. The best prevention to theft is to use your common sense and not make you or your valuable items a target.
 
My phone, laptop, or desktop are not locked.

If they get stolen I change passwords, restore backups and move on. I work on computers, a password is really not that big of a deal to get past. Maybe on an iDevice but who wants to steal an Apple device?

I would remotely wipe the phone but if unable to do that I would not lose sleep over it.

I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera? If I used my camera to earn a living I would have backups so I could continue any job but other than that I'm not worrying about it.
 
I think it be worthwhile for high end equipment to be locked some way. Maybe each time battery is removed you will have to input a passcode.

Mirrorless users would have a fit tho.
 
My phone, laptop, or desktop are not locked.

If they get stolen I change passwords, restore backups and move on. I work on computers, a password is really not that big of a deal to get past. Maybe on an iDevice but who wants to steal an Apple device?

I would remotely wipe the phone but if unable to do that I would not lose sleep over it.

I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera? If I used my camera to earn a living I would have backups so I could continue any job but other than that I'm not worrying about it.
1) Think bios level or hardware level drive level security, or Icloud password. For the most part, how do you expect to get past those? Guess the passwords? I'm not talking about the ability to just reset or windows logon security.

2) " I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera?"

Your wallet? How about your credit card? Yes you can and should disable them if lost or stolen.

Why your camera? If it was stolen......would you want the robber to able to use what they took from you? Why your camera? Because it wouldn't be hard to implement such security. In the end it would DISCOURAGE theft.
 
My phone, laptop, or desktop are not locked.

If they get stolen I change passwords, restore backups and move on. I work on computers, a password is really not that big of a deal to get past. Maybe on an iDevice but who wants to steal an Apple device?

I would remotely wipe the phone but if unable to do that I would not lose sleep over it.

I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera? If I used my camera to earn a living I would have backups so I could continue any job but other than that I'm not worrying about it.
1) Think bios level or hardware level drive level security, or Icloud password. For the most part, how do you expect to get past those? Guess the passwords? I'm not talking about the ability to just reset or windows logon security.

2) " I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera?"

Your wallet? How about your credit card? Yes you can and should disable them if lost or stolen.

Why your camera? If it was stolen......would you want the robber to able to use what they took from you? Why your camera? Because it wouldn't be hard to implement such security. In the end it would DISCOURAGE theft.
I said computer passwords (WIndows) and even bios passwords were not that hard to get around although I admit it's been a while since I have reset the bios to clear a password so that may have changed. I also conceded that Apple products were secure from that standpoint.

If my wallet was lost or stolen the credit cards would be reported as such and new ones reissued because the thief could steal money from me.

If a thief steals my camera (or bicycle or tools or etc...) I call my insurance company and they issue me a check to replace the camera. I don't really care what the thief does with the camera. That does not mean I don't take precautions to safeguard my gear it just means I don't think a password will discourage anyone. What do I do? Put a sign on my gear that says don't bother it's got a password.

How would the security work? Would I have to enter a pin whenever I wanted to take a photo? Sorry, but that would be disabled in the first 5 minutes of use just like the screen lock on my phone and computer.

Easy to implement? Do you know what the tech support nightmare would be for all the people that forget their password?

In my opinion, it's a silly idea.
 
My phone, laptop, or desktop are not locked.

If they get stolen I change passwords, restore backups and move on. I work on computers, a password is really not that big of a deal to get past. Maybe on an iDevice but who wants to steal an Apple device?

I would remotely wipe the phone but if unable to do that I would not lose sleep over it.

I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera? If I used my camera to earn a living I would have backups so I could continue any job but other than that I'm not worrying about it.
1) Think bios level or hardware level drive level security, or Icloud password. For the most part, how do you expect to get past those? Guess the passwords? I'm not talking about the ability to just reset or windows logon security.

2) " I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera?"

Your wallet? How about your credit card? Yes you can and should disable them if lost or stolen.

Why your camera? If it was stolen......would you want the robber to able to use what they took from you? Why your camera? Because it wouldn't be hard to implement such security. In the end it would DISCOURAGE theft.
I said computer passwords (WIndows) and even bios passwords were not that hard to get around although I admit it's been a while since I have reset the bios to clear a password so that may have changed. I also conceded that Apple products were secure from that standpoint.

If my wallet was lost or stolen the credit cards would be reported as such and new ones reissued because the thief could steal money from me.

If a thief steals my camera (or bicycle or tools or etc...) I call my insurance company and they issue me a check to replace the camera. I don't really care what the thief does with the camera. That does not mean I don't take precautions to safeguard my gear it just means I don't think a password will discourage anyone. What do I do? Put a sign on my gear that says don't bother it's got a password.

How would the security work? Would I have to enter a pin whenever I wanted to take a photo? Sorry, but that would be disabled in the first 5 minutes of use just like the screen lock on my phone and computer.

Easy to implement? Do you know what the tech support nightmare would be for all the people that forget their password?

In my opinion, it's a silly idea.
It may seem silly to someone that just said they don't use any security on their phone, or computers. "Computer passwords" can mean any password related to computers, not just Windows-related passwords.

Do you you realize how popular securing phones and computers are? And how encouraged it is?

1) You can't clear Thinkpad "unattended" bios passwords or hard drive level passwords set by a thinkpad, because you cannot access reset mode without said passwords. You need bios access to do that. To a thief, if the right password is set (bios - unattended) , the laptop itself is unusable even if you put a new drive in it or even pull the bios battery........there is NO way for them to bypass and use said hardware.

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"How would the security work? Would I have to enter a pin whenever I wanted to take a photo? Sorry, but that would be disabled in the first 5 minutes of use just like the screen lock on my phone and computer.

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So these are the only levels of security and scenarios you can think of? You've never heard of timed security features? (if device not touched for certain programmed amount of time, device goes into secured mode)

BTW, even basic screen lock on a phone, effectively protects data stored on device from 'most' thieves. Something you admit you don't use right?
 
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My cell phone, laptop, and home computers are password protected because they have personal information on them. My cameras do not, so no password is needed or desired. A password is not going to prevent theft of the device that is password protected.
 
My cell phone, laptop, and home computers are password protected because they have personal information on them. My cameras do not, so no password is needed or desired. A password is not going to prevent theft of the device that is password protected.
The main point of my post was that a robber can't use what they stole if it's secured without a reset feature available to them. And it would discourage the sale of these secured items.
 
My phone, laptop, or desktop are not locked.

If they get stolen I change passwords, restore backups and move on. I work on computers, a password is really not that big of a deal to get past. Maybe on an iDevice but who wants to steal an Apple device?

I would remotely wipe the phone but if unable to do that I would not lose sleep over it.

I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera? If I used my camera to earn a living I would have backups so I could continue any job but other than that I'm not worrying about it.
1) Think bios level or hardware level drive level security, or Icloud password. For the most part, how do you expect to get past those? Guess the passwords? I'm not talking about the ability to just reset or windows logon security.

2) " I can't disable my bicycle, tool chest, wallet, etc... so why a camera?"

Your wallet? How about your credit card? Yes you can and should disable them if lost or stolen.

Why your camera? If it was stolen......would you want the robber to able to use what they took from you? Why your camera? Because it wouldn't be hard to implement such security. In the end it would DISCOURAGE theft.
I said computer passwords (WIndows) and even bios passwords were not that hard to get around although I admit it's been a while since I have reset the bios to clear a password so that may have changed. I also conceded that Apple products were secure from that standpoint.

If my wallet was lost or stolen the credit cards would be reported as such and new ones reissued because the thief could steal money from me.

If a thief steals my camera (or bicycle or tools or etc...) I call my insurance company and they issue me a check to replace the camera. I don't really care what the thief does with the camera. That does not mean I don't take precautions to safeguard my gear it just means I don't think a password will discourage anyone. What do I do? Put a sign on my gear that says don't bother it's got a password.

How would the security work? Would I have to enter a pin whenever I wanted to take a photo? Sorry, but that would be disabled in the first 5 minutes of use just like the screen lock on my phone and computer.

Easy to implement? Do you know what the tech support nightmare would be for all the people that forget their password?

In my opinion, it's a silly idea.
It may seem silly to someone that just said they don't use any security on their phone, or computers. "Computer passwords" can mean any password related to computers, not just Windows-related passwords.

Do you you realize how popular securing phones and computers are? And how encouraged it is?

1) You can't clear Thinkpad "unattended" bios passwords or hard drive level passwords set by a thinkpad, because you cannot access reset mode without said passwords. You need bios access to do that. To a thief, if the right password is set (bios - unattended) , the laptop itself is unusable even if you put a new drive in it or even pull the bios battery........there is NO way for them to bypass and use said hardware.

2)

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"How would the security work? Would I have to enter a pin whenever I wanted to take a photo? Sorry, but that would be disabled in the first 5 minutes of use just like the screen lock on my phone and computer.

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So these are the only levels of security and scenarios you can think of? You've never heard of timed security features? (if device not touched for certain programmed amount of time, device goes into secured mode)

BTW, even basic screen lock on a phone, effectively protects data stored on device from 'most' thieves. Something you admit you don't use right?
You see a need, I don't. Neat thing about the internet.

As far as the Thinkpad, so do thieves recognize a Thinkpad and walk past because they know it has an unbeatable password?

Or would they steal it and then realize it's useless to them and then throw it the trash?

There is no data on camera that needs protecting so I don't understand comparing it to a phone.

A timed lock is still annoying which is why I don't use it. Same with a camera, a timed lock would become annoying if I had to interact with it more then just turning it on or in my case just tapping the shutter button.

You need/want the feature, I don't.

Have a nice day, it was fun talking about this.
 
I don't know where you live, but damn, you sound seriously paranoid.

A little bit of common sense goes a long way.
 
Unfortunately when I think about bringing camera gear (obvious camera bag) to certain places, even in broad daylight with tons of camera users, even in big cities like SF, I always think about robbery mugging, because it is real potential risk.
Risk is minimized by your actions, not by some software crutch. Personally, I think the risk is about zero. Cars get hijacked. Phones get stolen. Backpacks are cut into. Wallets get taken. Get some insurance, learn basic skills, and move on with your life.

Seems to me you're letting your fear overwhelm you if you scared in an American city in broad daylight surrounded by people. I bet more cameras are left behind in restaurants and and public transportation than actually grabbed.
 
My first thought: What! Tap a six-digit code onto the screen every time I want to take a photo? No way!

My second thought: Perhaps something less intrusive. A remote fob, or fingerprint reader on the shutter release would not be a problem.

My third thought: Would it make a difference? The thief runs off with your DSLR. Five minutes later they find it's locked. Splash! Another one at the bottom of the river.
I also wonder how it would work with interchangeable lenses.

A single lens could be worth more than the body. The lock would have to work on lenses in the bag and attached. And not slow down a lens change.

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and use it to get past the iris scan lock.

1. Any form of security can be circumvented eventually. Either by hacking or by more direct methods. "Tell me what the code is or I stick this knife in you" will work pretty well in a crowded square because you will be stabbed if you shout and the guy who did it will then wave his hands and call for an ambulance (while melting into the crowd).

2. Phones and computers need security/encryption because they hold valuable personal data. Photos of some anonymous people posing by the Leaning Tower of Pisa isn't valuable personal data.

3. As a previous poster mentioned. Thieves target victims. They are excellent at spotting people who aren't paying attention. It would be easy for them to adapt to spotting people who won't cry out when you stick a knife in their back. Security measures won't stop them robbing you.... for that you need to be seen to be alert and paying attention.

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Unfortunately when I think about bringing camera gear (obvious camera bag) to certain places, even in broad daylight with tons of camera users, even in big cities like SF, I always think about robbery mugging, because it is real potential risk. Locally there were even robbers that held active news crews at gun point and stole their equipment. I even heard of robbers following film crews to residential filming spots and robbing them once them go into a residence.

So since most secure their smartphone with a password, with the ability to render the device useless without proper authorization, why not protect expensive gear by the same methods.

Even OLD OLD cheap laptops and hard drives have this form of security. For example Thinkpad.

I personally would love to see the this implemented. Maybe even data security feature.

I'm sure it's been thought of, but haven't seen much discussion.
I like the idea, but if I want to grab a camera and take a quick shot, having to unlock the camera would render it too slow.
 
Unfortunately when I think about bringing camera gear (obvious camera bag) to certain places, even in broad daylight with tons of camera users, even in big cities like SF, I always think about robbery mugging, because it is real potential risk.
Risk is minimized by your actions, not by some software crutch. Personally, I think the risk is about zero. Cars get hijacked. Phones get stolen. Backpacks are cut into. Wallets get taken. Get some insurance, learn basic skills, and move on with your life.

Seems to me you're letting your fear overwhelm you if you scared in an American city in broad daylight surrounded by people. I bet more cameras are left behind in restaurants and and public transportation than actually grabbed.
 
and use it to get past the iris scan lock.

1. Any form of security can be circumvented eventually. Either by hacking or by more direct methods. "Tell me what the code is or I stick this knife in you" will work pretty well in a crowded square because you will be stabbed if you shout and the guy who did it will then wave his hands and call for an ambulance (while melting into the crowd).

2. Phones and computers need security/encryption because they hold valuable personal data. Photos of some anonymous people posing by the Leaning Tower of Pisa isn't valuable personal data.

3. As a previous poster mentioned. Thieves target victims. They are excellent at spotting people who aren't paying attention. It would be easy for them to adapt to spotting people who won't cry out when you stick a knife in their back. Security measures won't stop them robbing you.... for that you need to be seen to be alert and paying attention.

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Dan
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f/2.8 is a smaller number than f/22 in the same way that 100 is a smaller number than 20.
Landscape & travel photos danmarchant.com
Street Photos Flickr street album
Instagram (mostly street stuff) dan_marchant
Instagram (sports stuff) sporting852
1) "Any form of security can be circumvented eventually. Either by hacking or by more direct methods. " Very enlightening.

2) Some consumer cameras have storage security options built-into the camera. The desire to password protect photos is not uncommon. The idea that few desire to secure photos and videos on their devices on cameras and phones, is kinda silly. Not saying I think it's silly not to want it. I am saying many actually DO desire it on portable devices they lug around with them in public.

3) "Security measures won't stop them robbing you".............the main point is to prevent a thief from profiting $1000-2000 or whatever from robbing people,by disabling the usage of hardware..... by a simple measure that is employed in dirt cheap smartphones.
 
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