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Full frame or not?
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Dutch Newchurch
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Is this your first DSLR? If so, I suggest you buy the cheapest ILC you can find that appeals to you. Buy second hand.
Use it to get experience and make the big decision in twelve months.
Use it to get experience and make the big decision in twelve months.
mahidoes
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Lenses are most priority. Primarily they are going to last longer than body. In term of your unique work you need to learn the lens not the body. Lens is an extension of your vision. But that doesn't mean body is unimportant. Get the right lens. Get the body that can full fill your need. Remember bodies get outdated soon. Len's won't. When body get outdated you will be most compelled to change but lenses can be retained even after manufacture updates. Lenses aren't made to be outdated like bodies.
I don't see your interest as wildlife or sports where fast focusing and longer reach is crucial. My advice is in case If you opt for APS-C go for Fuji. Fuji is the only serious option in APS-C. Canon, Nikon,Sony has FF bodies for the same physical mount and they don't care much about APS-C system users. Even though they released great bodies they don't bother to make lenses. I disagree the argument you can use FF lenses there. No they will become different focal length. Some canon FF lenses are not sharp wide open. you need to shoot most of the time wide open in APS-C as the DOF is 1.5 time hiegher (in order to get subject separation). I never saw a serious photographer using crop sensor from Canon, Nikon, Sony as primary camera with the exceptions of sports and wildlife.
if you are opting for FF then you have different choices. Canon / Nikon / Sony / pentex all great. Look for lenses and choose what you want.
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Jacques Cornell
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How big do you print? What's the highest ISO you routinely need, and with what lenses?
Without this information, any recommendation I could give would be meaningless. You can shoot "people, kids, low light, nature" with anything from an advanced compact to a medium format kit.
golfhov
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good question. we cannot answer without more info. It isn't a trick question
You CAN go full frame in that budget. You will have less lens money than most crop sensors and lenses CAN add up faster
both. Your wishes are too vague to pick anything specific
SUPER vague
ok so you want at least an ok af system. at $1000 and up you can easily get that but some AF systems are better than others. Example: D610, 6d, and a7 are all around a grand. 610 and 6d are similar but not strong at Caf and have limited AF spreads(the center of 6d is wicked sensitive). The a7 is spread through most of the frame, similar not strong CAF but will follow an object around the frame much better, and has some advanced features like face af. None of these are "better" than others unless you know exactly how you want to use it and what modes are most important
sensors help, so do lenses, and stabilization
is this macro?
what did you like and dislike from your last camera?
Then you probably know what you need, and maybe even already own lenses...
Limburger
Veteran Member
Go from the lenses.
Something lowlight is in my book a body that can nail AF at -3EV.
OTOH Sony A7(II) can be a lot of fun too. MF primes are very rewarding and not that difficult on MILC.
So you need 16-50 for what you shoot, or thereabouts. Think of it.
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Cheers Mike
Something lowlight is in my book a body that can nail AF at -3EV.
OTOH Sony A7(II) can be a lot of fun too. MF primes are very rewarding and not that difficult on MILC.
So you need 16-50 for what you shoot, or thereabouts. Think of it.
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Cheers Mike
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Dutch Newchurch
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Limburger
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KCook
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Pick out your lenses first. Let those dictate the body.
Kelly
Kelly
Kids usually implies fast moving, so a crop dslr with a decent AF system and better zoom has the advantage.
On the other hand, for landscapes a good UWA lens and a full frame camera sounds nice.
So it's probably a question of priorities, and how much you want to adapt to your gear. For instance if you go with a 6D and a 16-35 f4 you have something very nice for landscapes, but would have to learn to use its center focusing point for kids.
I'd rather be lens rich than camera rich, lens poor.
Then there's also the typical conundrum of people who "want only the best", end up with a big full frame setup and then complain it's too heavy for them to use...
On the other hand, for landscapes a good UWA lens and a full frame camera sounds nice.
So it's probably a question of priorities, and how much you want to adapt to your gear. For instance if you go with a 6D and a 16-35 f4 you have something very nice for landscapes, but would have to learn to use its center focusing point for kids.
I'd rather be lens rich than camera rich, lens poor.
Then there's also the typical conundrum of people who "want only the best", end up with a big full frame setup and then complain it's too heavy for them to use...
alien intelligence
Active member
OP,
You seem to shoot a very wide variety of subjects and you didn't mention that you use your camera in professional situations, so I voted for you to get a new APS-C body and focus your budget on good lenses. Not necessarily a lot of them; just good ones.
You seem to shoot a very wide variety of subjects and you didn't mention that you use your camera in professional situations, so I voted for you to get a new APS-C body and focus your budget on good lenses. Not necessarily a lot of them; just good ones.
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