Why all the crying about the D850 price outside the USA?

lb77 said:

I think - but speculate - the current price for europe is due to the significant demand for the d850 by early adopters and the lack of supply, so they simply charge more. Perhaps the US market simply has more liquidity and the price tag is more balanced, while in europe only selected suppliers will have the d850 available. Wouldn't be surprised by a significant price drop on the d850 in a year or two.

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lb77 said:

I think - but speculate - the current price for europe is due to the significant demand for the d850 by early adopters and the lack of supply, so they simply charge more. Perhaps the US market simply has more liquidity and the price tag is more balanced, while in europe only selected suppliers will have the d850 available. Wouldn't be surprised by a significant price drop on the d850 in a year or two.

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Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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nuke12 said:

I still think some people in this thread should consider the social benefit programs your country offers and then compare them to what a US citizen receives. Think about;

1) Sick leave benefits

2) Maternity and paternity systems

3) Unemployment benefits

4) Number of paid holidays

5) Number of paid vacation days

6) Long term health care coverage

7) Prescription drug programs

8) Addictive drug rehabilitation programs

9) Etc. ......the list probably goes on and on

I think then you will figure out why your taxes (VAT) are so high. I'm not saying those are the only reasons the camera costs more. It probably costs more to ship to your country because of labor costs, the worker at Nikon that sends the camera to your local dealers, the salesman that actually sells the camera? These things all add up at every level.

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Harry Jacobs said:

The reason people are 'crying' about the price is simply because the price differential is too great. The D850 is priced at $3300 in the US, but in the UK that price is £3500 - which is equivalent to $4480 !! Don't you think that is unreasonable, I know that Nikon sees the US as a very important market, but why should the rest of the world have to pay inflated prices so that the price can be kept lower in the US?

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Well, I lived in the US for a number of years, my work took me there. I liked the place where I lived, made good friends there. However, I was able to observe the US as an outsider.

It is a great country with many positives and equally many deficiencies. For one thing, how taxation and its relation to the social fabric is implemented. Low taxes equal with very little care put into social programs. Healthcare and education being the primary losers.

I had insurance through my employer, however, one night in the local hospital depleted my $5,000.00 deductible. Well I could have bought a nice Nikon camera from that with money to spare. Then post secondary education. Well, it is simply bloody expensive and many otherwise very talented young people have no way to get into university. Of course you can get a military sponsorship, just make sure that you come back from Afghanistan or the Middle East in one piece..........

So, as far as I know from GB as an example, my wife is a bread and born Briton, the social fabric is still maintained to a much better and desirable extent from taxpayer's money. I mean in comparison to that of the US's. That could explain why cameras, among many other things, are notably more expensive there.

I live in Canada. It is the same here. The social fabric is eroding, due to some seeping in pressure from our southern neighbour like pharmaceutical giants there. However, I didn't get whopping bill of tens or hundred of thousand dollars after my various surgeries and hospital stay during the previous two years. I would have been absolutely broken in the great US where camera prices are so much cheaper........ ;-)

So, here we go, let's move to the US and buy cameras there........ ;-) Just do not get ill there.

Best regards, AIK

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Fritz Wilhelm said:

Yxa said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Pete Silver said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Yxa said:

Fritz Wilhelm said:

Yxa said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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BirgerH said:

Yxa said:

Fritz Wilhelm said:

Yxa said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Yxa said:

Pete Silver said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Yxa said:

nuke12 said:

I still think some people in this thread should consider the social benefit programs your country offers and then compare them to what a US citizen receives. Think about;

1) Sick leave benefits

2) Maternity and paternity systems

3) Unemployment benefits

4) Number of paid holidays

5) Number of paid vacation days

6) Long term health care coverage

7) Prescription drug programs

8) Addictive drug rehabilitation programs

9) Etc. ......the list probably goes on and on

I think then you will figure out why your taxes (VAT) are so high. I'm not saying those are the only reasons the camera costs more. It probably costs more to ship to your country because of labor costs, the worker at Nikon that sends the camera to your local dealers, the salesman that actually sells the camera? These things all add up at every level.

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Are you serious?

Nikon pays for that ?

I take two D850 at 4870€ a piece

Please Nikon can't you rise the price so I get a longer holiday?

Pure BS is what it is.

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Yxa said:

BirgerH said:

Yxa said:

Fritz Wilhelm said:

Yxa said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Leonard Shepherd
Some say if some of your photos are not good the camera you use is only a recording device.

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Not quite

That tax is 100€

Far from the 700€ difference in Sweden

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C-M

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Take a trip to New York, buy a D5 and 2 D850. Go back, sell some, and come out ahead. Vote for lowering taxes.

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What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.
Fritz

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It's not about taxes how many times must I says that.

if you strip the Swedish price from taxes (25%) you'll land on a price of $4000

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Though taxes in Sweden is not only VAT - You are not buying from Nikon, but from dealers, that have a lot of cost, you seem to not understand. The higher cost in Sweden (and in Denmark) has to be paid by the customers only - via the retailer price.

These higher cost are besides personal taxes (the owner of the store pays income taxes too) payment to social, workers safety and educational sources - paid directly or indirectly by the store (not by Nikon).

VAT does not pay for any of those things - most all the VAT pays the EU-membership.

I know from my long ago days in busyness, that we had to put 65% to the importer price to cover those cost and the profit to the store - and costs have not been smaller since - profit neither, I guess.

You really have to blame your welfare system before blaming Nikon for the differences in prices around the world. Do you want to change your welfare system? Most swede people won't, as far as I can see at your elections.

Nikon does not dictate the consumer prices - not in Denmark nor in Sweden.

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BirgerH.

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As I have written earlier

I've looked at what the Swedish customs states and do you know Birger it's just VAT for importing a digital camera to Sweden

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Yxa said:

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BirgerH said:

Yxa said:

Pete Silver said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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nuke12 said:

Yxa said:

nuke12 said:

I still think some people in this thread should consider the social benefit programs your country offers and then compare them to what a US citizen receives. Think about;

1) Sick leave benefits

2) Maternity and paternity systems

3) Unemployment benefits

4) Number of paid holidays

5) Number of paid vacation days

6) Long term health care coverage

7) Prescription drug programs

8) Addictive drug rehabilitation programs

9) Etc. ......the list probably goes on and on

I think then you will figure out why your taxes (VAT) are so high. I'm not saying those are the only reasons the camera costs more. It probably costs more to ship to your country because of labor costs, the worker at Nikon that sends the camera to your local dealers, the salesman that actually sells the camera? These things all add up at every level.

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Are you serious?

Nikon pays for that ?

I take two D850 at 4870€ a piece

Please Nikon can't you rise the price so I get a longer holiday?

Pure BS is what it is.

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You obviously don't understand how your own social system works and what it costs to be an employer (Nikon) in that structure and any employer that is used to get the goods to you.

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Yxa said:

BirgerH said:

Yxa said:

Pete Silver said:

Leonard Shepherd said:

Most Nikon DSLR's have video recording time limited to avoid an extra significant "import duty" as a "video camera".

Some sources are quoting over 4 hours recording with the D850.

If accurate the additional UK import duty tax is likely to account for much of the difference between USA and UK prices excluding sales tax.

Again if over 4 hours recording is right traditional issues with the sensor overheating have been much reduced

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Yxa said:

And you don't get anything and the title of this thread shows it

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Yxa said:

nuke12 said:

Yxa said:

nuke12 said:

I still think some people in this thread should consider the social benefit programs your country offers and then compare them to what a US citizen receives. Think about;

1) Sick leave benefits

2) Maternity and paternity systems

3) Unemployment benefits

4) Number of paid holidays

5) Number of paid vacation days

6) Long term health care coverage

7) Prescription drug programs

8) Addictive drug rehabilitation programs

9) Etc. ......the list probably goes on and on

I think then you will figure out why your taxes (VAT) are so high. I'm not saying those are the only reasons the camera costs more. It probably costs more to ship to your country because of labor costs, the worker at Nikon that sends the camera to your local dealers, the salesman that actually sells the camera? These things all add up at every level.

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Are you serious?

Nikon pays for that ?

I take two D850 at 4870€ a piece

Please Nikon can't you rise the price so I get a longer holiday?

Pure BS is what it is.

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You obviously don't understand how your own social system works and what it costs to be an employer (Nikon) in that structure and any employer that is used to get the goods to you.

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Bare said:

nuke12 said:

It's not Nikon's fault about your dollar/money exchange value. Or how your taxed in your country.

The D850 is $3,300 USD (before any taxes) and where I live (Canada) it's $4,400 (before taxes). Not that long ago, I would have paid the same price as they do in the US, when the Canadian dollar was higher.

Before you start griping, you have to consider where your currency is and why your taxed the way you are.

Don't blame Nikon for all the pricing issues in the different regions.

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