aflundi
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That's odd. I don't see the D600 and D750 aren't on the compatibility list. I wonder if that's just an oversight.
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The EN-EL15a now listed as compatible for the Nikon D500, D7000 series, etc
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n057
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They maybe have not tested them completely yet
JC
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DAVID MANZE
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When I tap the link all I get is an image of a battery, no specs, nothing!.....what is the current rating of the new one, the is EN-EL15 "7V 1900ma 14W"?They maybe have not tested them completely yet
JC
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I think this could be a dead end alley here, I've seen nothing from Nikon that the "a" version has a higher current capacity, compatibility is one thing, capacity is another, there are many generics out there which only have 1400 milliamperes............
....I'm keeping my eye out for the actual specs!
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n057
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When I tap the link all I get is an image of a battery, no specs, nothing!.....what is the current rating of the new one, the is EN-EL15 "7V 1900ma 14W"?They maybe have not tested them completely yet
JC
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I think this could be a dead end alley here, I've seen nothing from Nikon that the "a" version has a higher current capacity, compatibility is one thing, capacity is another, there are many generics out there which only have 1400 milliamperes............
....I'm keeping my eye out for the actual specs!
What I would like to see is an actual picture of the battery from someone who has one! So if someone gets the D7500, maybe they can post a pic of the new mysterious battery! Otherwise not sure what info you can trust. Up until recently Nikon's own website said it was only compatible with the D7500.
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MK
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Yes, we need a picture! Also, B&H's website list the "a" version with only the D7500 designated in the Overview tab. Then again they could be following Nikon's earlier info.
A recent post by Thom Hogan (the D7500 blog) indicates that the specs of the new EN-EL15a are identical to that of the EN-EL15 (7v, 1900mAh and 14W)! So is the only difference the color?
I guess I am not that cynical, Nikon would not bring out a new battery and charge more for it and only change the color of the coating, would they? There must be some internal changes in the battery, right? Having used both the 01 and 20 versions of the EN-EL15 in minus 40 degree weather, can't believe that it is just an improvement in cold weather performance (both of the older batteries were awesome). So hopefully whatever changes have been made will correct some of the problems that select people are having with the 20 version in their D500 without any changes in the specs. Maybe I am a dreamer. Only time will answer this question!
I guess I am not that cynical, Nikon would not bring out a new battery and charge more for it and only change the color of the coating, would they? There must be some internal changes in the battery, right? Having used both the 01 and 20 versions of the EN-EL15 in minus 40 degree weather, can't believe that it is just an improvement in cold weather performance (both of the older batteries were awesome). So hopefully whatever changes have been made will correct some of the problems that select people are having with the 20 version in their D500 without any changes in the specs. Maybe I am a dreamer. Only time will answer this question!
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trenzterra
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n057
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Same voltage, same capacity, same power as the "20" battery I got with my D500 and as the second battery I bought at the same time. Except for the "a" and some other markings, it is the same battery.I just bought the D7500.
It's marked Li-ion20 so I guess it's the same as the newer EN-EL15.
That is what I tought. The "a" suffix after "EN-EL15" makes it clear this is the battery to use. The manual also says to use the "a" battery, so if you use an older battery and it does not work as expected, you have been warned.
That also eliminates the liability that caused Nikon to exchange previous batteries. Do not expect an exchange of your older "01" batteries if you have a D7500. Or of any prior battery. But the newer batteries can be used in your older equipment.
JC
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Thanks for posting a photo of the "new EN-EL15a" battery! To me, Nikon just hit a new low, rebranding a prior version of their battery and charging more for it! No wonder Nikon is in trouble.Same voltage, same capacity, same power as the "20" battery I got with my D500 and as the second battery I bought at the same time. Except for the "a" and some other markings, it is the same battery.I just bought the D7500.
It's marked Li-ion20 so I guess it's the same as the newer EN-EL15.
That is what I tought. The "a" suffix after "EN-EL15" makes it clear this is the battery to use. The manual also says to use the "a" battery, so if you use an older battery and it does not work as expected, you have been warned.
That also eliminates the liability that caused Nikon to exchange previous batteries. Do not expect an exchange of your older "01" batteries if you have a D7500. Or of any prior battery. But the newer batteries can be used in your older equipment.
JC
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n057
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I am not the one who posted the photo, but I'll take itThanks for posting a photo of the "new EN-EL15a" battery! To me, Nikon just hit a new low, rebranding a prior version of their battery and charging more for it! No wonder Nikon is in trouble.Same voltage, same capacity, same power as the "20" battery I got with my D500 and as the second battery I bought at the same time. Except for the "a" and some other markings, it is the same battery.I just bought the D7500.
It's marked Li-ion20 so I guess it's the same as the newer EN-EL15.
That is what I tought. The "a" suffix after "EN-EL15" makes it clear this is the battery to use. The manual also says to use the "a" battery, so if you use an older battery and it does not work as expected, you have been warned.
That also eliminates the liability that caused Nikon to exchange previous batteries. Do not expect an exchange of your older "01" batteries if you have a D7500. Or of any prior battery. But the newer batteries can be used in your older equipment.
JC
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Urban legend about "charging more". I just checked on nikon.ca, nikon.com, and the list price advertised by Nikon is the same for both versions. At a retailer here, lozeau.com, the old one is on sale until the end of the month, at a lower price but the regular price is the same. However, bhphotovideo.com charges $10 more for the newer battery, regular price. They do not indicate if the older one is on a sale.
They have many other faults, but I don't believe Nikon is the one charging more for that battery
JC
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Your right, Nikon charges the same for both batteries, 50% more than B&H for the 20 version. No wonder I never buy from the Nikon site.They have many other faults, but I don't believe Nikon is the one charging more for that battery
JC
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n057
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Indeed it would not be a good idea to pay more to the manufacturer if dealers can offer a better deal.Your right, Nikon charges the same for both batteries, 50% more than B&H for the 20 version. No wonder I never buy from the Nikon site.They have many other faults, but I don't believe Nikon is the one charging more for that battery
JC
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If you have been following the way most manufacturers who have dealers sell their products, they always ask more to the public than what the dealers charge. The manufacturer's price is the Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, that is the maximum the dealer can charge. Of course the dealer pays a lot less than that, and so can charge between what they pay and MSRP.
If the manufacturer also sells directly to the public,, they will not charge a price so low that the dealer cannot sell profitably. Otherwise the manufacturer soon finds that no one wants to sell their wares.
There are exceptions to that rule, but generally both manufacturers and dealers expect this is the way it works.
JC
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Thank you for posting the photo. Yes, it does appear to be identical to EN-EL15.
Yet, when i tried to get some clarification from Nikon on this... here was my exchange with them... Makes no sense...
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MK
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Now that's interesting! I wonder if they know that capacity is capacity is capacity!
How can both batteries, at the same 1900 mAh provide different shots per charge?The only thing I can possibly imagine is the cut off circuitry (or what it tells the camera if it's one of those "smart battery") in the battery. If the older one tells the camera "I'm done" at 50% discharged and say the newer does the same at 60% discharged, then I can see how you get more shots with the newer battery.
If the "cut off circuitry" or anything else is different in the "new" EN-EL15a, they are even further confusing the issue by including the label 20 on the new EN-EL15a battery? And wouldn't this have been simpler to do a firmware change in the camera so that it would read the discharge rate of the batteries more accurately? I do think my D500 has a problem accurately reading the charge left on the battery since the readings can be so erratic.
n057
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The same battery works in older cameras. Maybe the rate at which the D500 and D7500 discharge the batteries is different and this is where some extra data is supplied by the new batteries. Maybe the D500 and D7500 queries extra data from the battery and the new ones know how to respond to that, while the older ones fail to respond. So the camera takes no chance and assumes the level is lower than what they ask for.Now that's interesting! I wonder if they know that capacity is capacity is capacity!
The only thing I can possibly imagine is the cut off circuitry (or what it tells the camera if it's one of those "smart battery") in the battery. If the older one tells the camera "I'm done" at 50% discharged and say the newer does the same at 60% discharged, then I can see how you get more shots with the newer battery.
At any rate, does it matter? If you have the correct battery and your camera is in good shape, it does what it is supposed to do.
JC
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n057
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Rich Rosen
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Had a problem with the En-el 15 L01. Have not had a problem with version L20. One battery is all I need to get through a football or lacrosse game, shooting 1300 or more images and still having around 50% or more charge left. The en-el 15 was created to reduce to new safety standards that Japanese government required several years ago. Hence the change from en-el 3 to 15. I do wonder the reason for the change. Maybe just the option to raise the price for a new product?
My interest was mainly from a price to performance ratio. Most retailers charge a premium for the 15a battery, so I wanted to understand if there is some benefit that it provides in my D7200 or would it be complete waste of money.
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