Nikon could make a high FPS & high MP D820 if they wanted too but they won't. They'll continue to market high speed cameras with low MP count sensors and low speed cameras with high MP count sensors because they want to sell as many bodies as the can.
I still think it must have killed Nikon's management to put the D5's AF system and processor in the "cheap" D500, but they were forced to make up marketing ground because they completely missed the D400 opportunity and were forced to compete with the Canon's 7DII. But there's really no need for Nikon to "out do" itself with the D820, so they'll still release modest incremental upgrades akin to Chinese water torture. And please don't bother mentioning the Sony A9...it may or may not be able to do 20 FPS but the idea is to get all of those frames in focus...something Sony hasn't figured out how to do with any of their cameras so far.
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Vince P
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It does but at those frame rates the image quality takes a hit, it's worth it for the sports action market but I don't think the current D810 demographic wants that.
totally agree I think Nikon are well placed to produce a game changer
D500/D5 focus system
XQD cards for speed
Sony 43/45 meg sensor
8 to 10 FPS
However as I'm not in marketing something tells me they won't do this and gimp some to milk the range. I can live in hope though, I love my D500 for its focus its amazing but for landscapes and portraits I drop back to my A7Rii, I do however love my Nikon enough for me to defect to Nikon if they pull this out the bag.
D500/D5 focus system
XQD cards for speed
Sony 43/45 meg sensor
8 to 10 FPS
However as I'm not in marketing something tells me they won't do this and gimp some to milk the range. I can live in hope though, I love my D500 for its focus its amazing but for landscapes and portraits I drop back to my A7Rii, I do however love my Nikon enough for me to defect to Nikon if they pull this out the bag.
Jrnichols5
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Glad someone else sees the value of a higher frame rate, large mp camera! I for one think it would sell like hot cakes. One camera to rule them all!
I understand all the talk about product segmentation and getting the right tool for the job, but that latter argument is going by the wayside with the advances in technology over the last few years. Really hoping Nikon pushes the mold with the D8XX and not just incrementally upgrades the features like Canon did with the 5DIV.
Agree with all of these specs except frame rate. I don't believe the fps will be anything higher than 4 or 5 fps. To do higher fps would cannibalize the sales of their pro cameras.
Stian Olaisen
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You ppl just don't get it. Selling a camera with high resolution and good frame rate will take away sale from the competition. Not from themself.
The D820/D850 doesn't need to do 12fps like the D5, 8 would do it. And they would sell a sh*tload of cameras!
The extreme fps and iso capabilties from the D5 will still be welcome for the pro's, also the easy to work with files.
Telling them that they shouldn't release the D820/D850 with high frame rate because it would sell to much just sounds absurd.
The D820/D850 doesn't need to do 12fps like the D5, 8 would do it. And they would sell a sh*tload of cameras!
The extreme fps and iso capabilties from the D5 will still be welcome for the pro's, also the easy to work with files.
Telling them that they shouldn't release the D820/D850 with high frame rate because it would sell to much just sounds absurd.
I doubt very much that the new 8XX body will have even 8fps because it WILL reduce sales of it's own pro models (this is my opinion in response to your opinion).
Stian Olaisen
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I suppose it will. But SO MANY will upgrade or maybe switch brands, because they will love it!!!! The little loss in sales from the D5 will still be nothing compared to what they earn as a total.
Agree that the increase in linear resolution is not compelling. I'm trying to think what WOULD be compelling to me. I guess it might be the following.
1. I am never opposed to better AF (though I really have no problems with the 800) Perhaps some kind of CDAF/PDAF hybrid mode.
2. Better LV. This I really would appreciate
3. Even better DR wouid be nice, although the 800 is already very nice in this regard, and I am not sure how much we can expect. And I like ISO invariant designs.
4. More, easily accessible user modes
These are MY opinions, and won't fit the wants of other users.
Things that are not compelling for me:
1. High frame rate. I just don't shoot that way, but hey I can understand how it's desirable for others.
2. Increase in resolution; unless it gets high enough that true pixel binning modes can be implemented.
1. I am never opposed to better AF (though I really have no problems with the 800) Perhaps some kind of CDAF/PDAF hybrid mode.
2. Better LV. This I really would appreciate
3. Even better DR wouid be nice, although the 800 is already very nice in this regard, and I am not sure how much we can expect. And I like ISO invariant designs.
4. More, easily accessible user modes
These are MY opinions, and won't fit the wants of other users.
Things that are not compelling for me:
1. High frame rate. I just don't shoot that way, but hey I can understand how it's desirable for others.
2. Increase in resolution; unless it gets high enough that true pixel binning modes can be implemented.
Rich Rosen
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Whether we like it or not, mirror less cameras are providing significant competition to DSLR's. Canikon will have to deal with this competition, at some point. If they choose to compete with a DSLR, then they will have to up their game. That means packing their second level prosumer cameras with features reserved for their top of the line, or close to it. 8FPs isn't out of the realm of possibility. 10 FPS is a little bit of a stretch, but from a technological stand point, not a marketing one.
The other way to compete is put out a mirrorless camera that surpasses the Sony line. If that is the case than 10fps is certainly a possibility, but nikcan has to maintain or surpass its AF lead.
calson
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A larger sensor means more data to process and that is going to slow down the writes to the memory card. This is why Nikon with the D5 and Canon with the 1d X have limited the size of the senor.
My D810 has mediocre autofocus so I would not use it for action photography where the fps rate would be important. For those situations I use the D750 or the D500.
Every camera involves trade-offs in performance. Much wiser to get two cameras that provide what you need and not try to find all the answers in one.
My D810 has mediocre autofocus so I would not use it for action photography where the fps rate would be important. For those situations I use the D750 or the D500.
Every camera involves trade-offs in performance. Much wiser to get two cameras that provide what you need and not try to find all the answers in one.
Mackiesback
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Over the course of history with Nikon, even with the latest release of the 7500, it is apparent Nikon really doesn't think this way. They carefully segment each camera body, strictly managing the features/benefits of each so that they don't make the others redundant.
Agreed. Being content with Nikon being less equipped to deal with other competitors so it can preserve the superiority of their high end models compared to their mid range models is the height of sticking your head in the sand.
We need to keep driving Nikon forward on all models and all model segments FOR NIKON'S OWN SAKE.
Can I just point out, now that the camera is out, that Theoria was completely wrong about dynamic range and base ISO? 
T O Shooter
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Now that you've dug up an old thread, what an interesting read. Seeing what fellows said would never happen but did, and vice versa.
Tom Frerichs
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It really has been fascinating reading all the expert predictions. After all, if we believed the majority, we'd never have a camera body with 45 Mpx shooting at 7 fps (9 with the grip) and with the D5 autofocus system. At least, as on poster mentioned, not in our lifetimes.
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