J3 to J5: Impressions

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So after a few years with my J3... I got my J5, and I love it. First, my qualms:

Totally cosmetic, but, the white body does not match my white lenses. The old white is warmer, this new white is cooler, more neutral. The white 18.5 (what I use 90% of the time) looks terrible on it. My new silver 18.5 is therefore enroute via UPS and the white 18.5 is for sale. The 10 and the 10-100 look okay, but I'll replace them with their silver equivalents at some point. I'm still mulling on how to replace the 10-30. Silver seems obvious but the focus ring is black, how will that strike me? If only these smaller, cheaper zooms were given metal focus rings.

Another minor quibble is that the Creative photo modes capture exclusively in JPEG. Why?? HDR mode is such a delight to have, but if the result is a JPEG? Well. And the panoramic mode continues to deliver diminutive output. My iPhone remains the goto for this, such a shame.

Last is, during playback, there is still no way to toggle between detailed image info, and the full screen image. Setting to Off gives you no info, On gives you no useful info, and Detailed gives you no way to view the image full screen without cropping. Really disappointing.

What else? Hmmm, that's it!

Obviously the new sensor is a big improvement over the J3. Images are soooo buttery by comparison, with velvety bokeh, and the detail, even at higher ISOs, is incredible. I've never stared so long at a cat portrait in my life. Every. Strand. Of fur! Just astounding. Now, this IS the highest MP camera I've ever known, along with the largest sensor... So I suppose it doesn't take much to impress me. But I am finally getting images that, upon close inspection, possess an IQ that I not only thought I couldn't achieve, but assumed was firmly in the purview of other, bigger-sensor systems. Suffice to say I'm in heaven.

The color out of camera is beautiful. I use Lightroom and would set the J3 to Vivid. For whatever reason, Lightroom strips the results of this setting after the image loads, and you can see it as it happens. With the J3, I'd watch as luscious color evaporated shot after shot, leaving me to restore it manually. I set the J5 to the same setting, but imagine my shock when I found the stripped images to look better. Better! Much more natural (yet pleasingly saturated), and the blacks would uncrush and behold! Wide dynamic range. Really impressive. The only differxence, to be fair, is that I have the J5 set to the Adobe sRGB color space. But regardless, to see the unmodified RAW out of this camera look so good leaves me giddy.

Before purchase, I was really interested in the articulated touch screen, along with the improved handling, and neither disappoints. It's very cool to tap the subject of my shot, and the image is simply captured. I love taking shots of plants low to the ground, and I know the articulation and touch sensitivity will make doing that a lot easier.

What was also compelling to me was the arrival of the Fn button. This is mapped to ISO by default, and at first I really liked that arrangement. Then it occurred to me that I could tap the ISO number on the screen to make the same adjustment! So now I have the Fn button set to focus mode. It's nice to be able to toggle that quickly as I use extension tubes quite a lot. In all cases, I am really happy with all of these additions, they've been a long time coming to be sure.

The wifi button is great... it's a shame the VMU app converts everything to JPEG, but it's quite fast ano convenient... Really a shame it doesn't keep images as RAW though.

That's about it. Even if the new sensor were the only update to the line, this camera would be a must buy for any fan of the system. I loved my J3, but this new, better sensor just destroys it.

The cat picture in question!
The cat picture in question!
 
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Nice cat, and a great portrait.

What with the lack of a native macro lens, the concept of extension tubes for CX mount is always a good topic around here, and hasn't been brought up lately. If you're ever in the mood to share your opinions on the tubes you use, and how you use them, it would certainly be welcome.

Also, "Welcome, Newbie!" You already seem pretty okay, so we'll try not to make the initiation rituals excessively grueling. :-P
 
Nice kitty. Agreed on the sensor impressions. And I had the same experience with disappearing Nikon presets, only with Aperture. Yes, I could literally watch them disappear during the upload. Bright colorful image for one second, and then boom, changed to a washed out Raw default. So frustrating. I switched to Capture NX-D for that reason. So far so good, no complains.
 
Nice cat, and a great portrait.

What with the lack of a native macro lens, the concept of extension tubes for CX mount is always a good topic around here, and hasn't been brought up lately. If you're ever in the mood to share your opinions on the tubes you use, and how you use them, it would certainly be welcome.

Also, "Welcome, Newbie!" You already seem pretty okay, so we'll try not to make the initiation rituals excessively grueling. :-P
Thank you for the complements, and your leniency! I'd be happy to discuss the tubes, I love them!

When I first got the J3 I was bummed to find the native macro options lacking. I could get okay results with the 10-30 zoomed in, but I wasn't completely satisfied. After doing some research I stumbled upon the small miracle which are extension tubes. I bought a set of "Fotga" tubes, 10 and 16mm, which I settled upon for their metal mounts. At this point I'd attained an 18.5 lens, and I was infatuated with the bokeh I could achieve with it. While most of the things I've read discuss using the tubes with the 30-110 (which I've yet to own,) I paired it immediately with the 18.5, cranked wide open. It was a revelation. The best $30 I ever spent! Mashing shallow depth-of-field with macro photography was something that had never occurred to me before. It revealed my own fascination with lush, surreal, abstract photography, and I find it incredibly exciting to practice. Before the tubes I felt I was chasing someone else's ideal, but what I do with these gives me a sense of creating. It's exhilarating!

Here are a few of my better received shots on Flickr... Hope you enjoy!!

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Nice kitty. Agreed on the sensor impressions. And I had the same experience with disappearing Nikon presets, only with Aperture. Yes, I could literally watch them disappear during the upload. Bright colorful image for one second, and then boom, changed to a washed out Raw default. So frustrating. I switched to Capture NX-D for that reason. So far so good, no complains.
I gave NX-D a shot, but it's glacially slow on my 2010 i5 17" MPB. I've added all the RAM I can add, I have tons of free HD space. I'd love to use it, but it takes eons to launch, eons to load each shot, eons to make each change. While I am deeply drawn to the idea of a wholly Nikon-native workflow, the dramatic increase in time it takes to post-process is unbearable for me. What I find curious is that third party software respects the settings long enough to preview them before the image is loaded and they are stripped away... Perhaps it's just a preview saved with the metadata? My understanding is that Nikon won't share the recipe for it's flavor of RAW with third parties... it's really quite unfortunate if that is the case. I don't understand it.
 
Nice kitty. Agreed on the sensor impressions. And I had the same experience with disappearing Nikon presets, only with Aperture. Yes, I could literally watch them disappear during the upload. Bright colorful image for one second, and then boom, changed to a washed out Raw default. So frustrating. I switched to Capture NX-D for that reason. So far so good, no complains.
I gave NX-D a shot, but it's glacially slow on my 2010 i5 17" MPB. I've added all the RAM I can add, I have tons of free HD space. I'd love to use it, but it takes eons to launch, eons to load each shot, eons to make each change. While I am deeply drawn to the idea of a wholly Nikon-native workflow, the dramatic increase in time it takes to post-process is unbearable for me. What I find curious is that third party software respects the settings long enough to preview them before the image is loaded and they are stripped away... Perhaps it's just a preview saved with the metadata? My understanding is that Nikon won't share the recipe for it's flavor of RAW with third parties... it's really quite unfortunate if that is the case. I don't understand it.
Hmm, I am using 2007 (!) Mac with only 4GB of RAM and don't find it slow at all. It is not blazing fast, it takes 2-3 seconds for an adjustment, or a bit longer if I am rushing and making several adjustment without waiting. For a computer that old I find it acceptable. I did replace HDD a few years ago to a faster 1TB one, so that might be helping. It is also possible that Mac version is faster that PC counterpart for whatever reason. Maybe worthwhile to consider switching to Mac? ;)
 
...every time I used the phrase "focus ring," I (obviously ;-)) meant "zoom ring!"

Not for long! Obviously you'll soon be getting the 32 1.2 to further expand your capabilities for limited dof shots, and then you can refer to the manual focus ring all you want! ( :
 
Actually shallow dof is more of a curse than a blessing in macro photography. I never used extension tubes, how far from the subject you have to be to get that bee shot, for example (assuming it wasn't cropped too much)? I do have Nikon close-up attachments, both T3 and T4, which are luckily the same diameter as my 32. With both of them mounted, I get about 30-35cm distance from a subject but still something like a bee-size object would only fill 25% of the frame. Do you get better "fill" ratio with extension tubes?
 
Nice kitty. Agreed on the sensor impressions. And I had the same experience with disappearing Nikon presets, only with Aperture. Yes, I could literally watch them disappear during the upload. Bright colorful image for one second, and then boom, changed to a washed out Raw default. So frustrating. I switched to Capture NX-D for that reason. So far so good, no complains.
I gave NX-D a shot, but it's glacially slow on my 2010 i5 17" MPB. I've added all the RAM I can add, I have tons of free HD space. I'd love to use it, but it takes eons to launch, eons to load each shot, eons to make each change. While I am deeply drawn to the idea of a wholly Nikon-native workflow, the dramatic increase in time it takes to post-process is unbearable for me. What I find curious is that third party software respects the settings long enough to preview them before the image is loaded and they are stripped away... Perhaps it's just a preview saved with the metadata? My understanding is that Nikon won't share the recipe for it's flavor of RAW with third parties... it's really quite unfortunate if that is the case. I don't understand it.
Hmm, I am using 2007 (!) Mac with only 4GB of RAM and don't find it slow at all. It is not blazing fast, it takes 2-3 seconds for an adjustment, or a bit longer if I am rushing and making several adjustment without waiting. For a computer that old I find it acceptable. I did replace HDD a few years ago to a faster 1TB one, so that might be helping. It is also possible that Mac version is faster that PC counterpart for whatever reason. Maybe worthwhile to consider switching to Mac? ;)
Ha! I'm using a Mac, MBP! Maybe your video card is more robust? Although that seems unlikely... Now that I think about it, I did end up wiping my hard drive because of other speed issues. Maybe I should download it again and give it another shot.
 
...every time I used the phrase "focus ring," I (obviously ;-)) meant "zoom ring!"

Not for long! Obviously you'll soon be getting the 32 1.2 to further expand your capabilities for limited dof shots, and then you can refer to the manual focus ring all you want! ( :
I wish..! Sell the 10-100 and 10 to finance it? Hmmm. ;)
 
Actually shallow dof is more of a curse than a blessing in macro photography. I never used extension tubes, how far from the subject you have to be to get that bee shot, for example (assuming it wasn't cropped too much)? I do have Nikon close-up attachments, both T3 and T4, which are luckily the same diameter as my 32. With both of them mounted, I get about 30-35cm distance from a subject but still something like a bee-size object would only fill 25% of the frame. Do you get better "fill" ratio with extension tubes?
Well, I can tell you the image was not cropped at all. The 10mm tube with the 18.5 is incredible if proximity is not an issue... but you have to get super close, otherwise focus is impossible. With the 16mm tube, the UV filter on my lens will literally touch the subject, so I can't often use it. In cm, the 10mm gives me, I don't know, 2—4 cm clearance? Not much. With the bee, it was a very cool day. The flowers were dotted with several of these lethargic bees. I'm not much of an outdoorsman admittedly, but I'd never seen such a thing. My first attempts were timid, but I realized that they weren't going anywhere. Jar them and they'd only stir slightly. It was fascinating, and an incredible opportunity. I almost always take these shots in burst mode, 5 FPS, because it's so hard to keep the camera steady when so close. Just the slightest tremor in my grip, or the slightest stirring of the wind, affects the what's in focus dramatically with the aperture at 1.8, which it was. That shot is one of the better ones; I easily took several dozen. All of them have a certain beauty, but I do find it desirable to have some portion of the subject in focus. :)

A smaller aperture gives more conventional results, and sometimes I do draw it a bit smaller. But by and large this shallow look is what I love, it feels like I'm peering underwater, peering into a dream. If you want the entire subject in focus, it's definitely possible with the combination I'm using... certainly with the smaller zooms, with which the tubes also work well. For $30 it's definitely worth a try if you want to get much closer than you are now, subject permitting. :-D
 
On my J4 you can switch from the detailed image review to full screen by tapping the screen once, and a double tap will zoom to 100%. From there you can swipe left and right to move through full screen images. To revert to detailed view just tap the screen again. Hope that works on the J5 too!
 
On my J4 you can switch from the detailed image review to full screen by tapping the screen once, and a double tap will zoom to 100%. From there you can swipe left and right to move through full screen images. To revert to detailed view just tap the screen again. Hope that works on the J5 too!
Hmmm. If I tap once with detailed view, nothing happens. If I tap twice, it zooms the image like in any other view. Swiping while zoomed just pans the image about. There is definitely a way to cycle through images while zoomed, but I don't recall it, and every time I try to do it, it doesn't work... I thought spinning the rear jog dial was how, but that doesn't do anything either. If there is a way to view full screen while in detailed view I'd love to know what it is!
 
Make sure when you tap once that you are tapping on the little preview image in the top left of the screen, not just in the center of the screen, and then it will view full size.
 
Make sure when you tap once that you are tapping on the little preview image in the top left of the screen, not just in the center of the screen, and then it will view full size.
J5 says... no. :(

 
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Man, that stinks. Why would they remove that feature? I was having the same issue you were until I discovered that shortcut.
 
Man, that stinks. Why would they remove that feature? I was having the same issue you were until I discovered that shortcut.
I think someone mentioned here using the top dial to zoom in. I tried it and I liked it. It zooms just slightly more than 100%, so I don't see a problem with that. Easy to toggle back and forth between detailed view and zoom-in. Maybe not ideal but definitely better than nothing.
 

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