STF manages a pretty good 3D effect

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Somehow, the more identifiable but smooth background combined with a very sharp subject gives a nice realistic 3D effect. At least to my eyes... Perhaps it's the focal length too. I get the best such effect with my SAL135mmZ at some distance from the subject.



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Nice isolation and good rendering, but as flat as a board.
The laws of physics don't help at 100mm.
3D is a big ask over 24mm or so.
 
Nice isolation and good rendering, but as flat as a board.
The laws of physics don't help at 100mm.
3D is a big ask over 24mm or so.

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Ron.
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Hmmm... must be an individual difference in perceptions. I personally found that my longer lenses (e.g., the 135/1.8 I mentioned) give me more of a 3D look than my wide-angles. The subject seems to almost come out of the screen. I'm not talking about the subject's nose being in more/less focus than the eyes. But even different parts of the face can be differentially focused with a 100mm lens... no limitation by the laws of physics (and no distortion). E,g,.



This was her choice of pose... I'm not saying this has a 3D look (it's not what I'm referring to) ... just showing that even a 100mm lens can give differential focus on parts of the face...
This was her choice of pose... I'm not saying this has a 3D look (it's not what I'm referring to) ... just showing that even a 100mm lens can give differential focus on parts of the face...
 
I think we are discussing different things here. One is the ability to isolate the subject from the background, while retaining some measure of identification of what the background is.

The other is using a wide angle lens to give a sense of depth by positioning different elements in the photo to provide a relationship and a "flow" from foreground to background.
 
Somehow, the more identifiable but smooth background combined with a very sharp subject gives a nice realistic 3D effect. At least to my eyes... Perhaps it's the focal length too. I get the best such effect with my SAL135mmZ at some distance from the subject.
i think that we are distracted by the lovely model ;-)

but seriously, i think that i see your point in this photo, in the way that the dof on the floorboards shows gradual blur, going into that nice smooth look at long distance.


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dan
 
Hmmm... must be an individual difference in perceptions. I personally found that my longer lenses (e.g., the 135/1.8 I mentioned) give me more of a 3D look than my wide-angles. The subject seems to almost come out of the screen. I'm not talking about the subject's nose being in more/less focus than the eyes. But even different parts of the face can be differentially focused with a 100mm lens... no limitation by the laws of physics (and no distortion).
just recently, and there's enough debate there to prove
the definition of 3D has yet to be put to bed.
I'm sure , like most things here, it will settle on personal preference;
(mine being, a small serving of fish-eye goes a long way).
It's a very nice lens, I'm guessing it could be used for some fairly wild effects
in that OOF zone too, enjoy.
 
Unless there is a generally accepted definition of what 3d is, and preferably a measurable one, there won't be agreement on what shows it and what doesn't.

Which means, it comes down to personal preference.

As it probably should be.

:)

christos
 
Yes, there is clearly some difference of opinion here. And I was careful in my OP to state that the there was a 3D effect "to my eyes at least". I know we're into subjective territory here...

But here is a webpage that shows the same effect with the contributing factors (lens, technique, settings, etc.) explained. I find the examples to have a strong 3D appearance... again, the subject seems to pop out of the background. The author also suggests that this works best with longer FL lenses. Anyway, this is the sort of thing I was talking about....

http://neilvn.com/tangents/making-your-images-pop-through-lens-choice/
 
Yes, there is clearly some difference of opinion here. And I was careful in my OP to state that the there was a 3D effect "to my eyes at least". I know we're into subjective territory here...

But here is a webpage that shows the same effect with the contributing factors (lens, technique, settings, etc.) explained. I find the examples to have a strong 3D appearance... again, the subject seems to pop out of the background. The author also suggests that this works best with longer FL lenses. Anyway, this is the sort of thing I was talking about....

http://neilvn.com/tangents/making-your-images-pop-through-lens-choice/
To me, 3D effect and subject isolation are different things, as I described earlier. 3D effect implies a succession of different planes to provide depth. Subject isolation can be part of the 3D effect, but is not enough.
 
Somehow, the more identifiable but smooth background combined with a very sharp subject gives a nice realistic 3D effect. At least to my eyes... Perhaps it's the focal length too. I get the best such effect with my SAL135mmZ at some distance from the subject.
Very smooth back ground rendering, I don't see any " 3D" though.
 
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Somehow, the more identifiable but smooth background combined with a very sharp subject gives a nice realistic 3D effect. At least to my eyes... Perhaps it's the focal length too. I get the best such effect with my SAL135mmZ at some distance from the subject.

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Where is the 3D pop exactly? DOF and bokeh looks the same to me as any other telephoto lens.
 
Somehow, the more identifiable but smooth background combined with a very sharp subject gives a nice realistic 3D effect. At least to my eyes... Perhaps it's the focal length too. I get the best such effect with my SAL135mmZ at some distance from the subject.

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Where is the 3D pop exactly? DOF and bokeh looks the same to me as any other telephoto lens.
The perception for me is strongest in the first image, but you didn't include it here for some reason. Perhaps you see in that one. I also see it to a lesser extent in the last one (the second one you included here). Again, it's the result of a detailed subject with good micro contrast in front of a smoothly blurred but recognisable (or not abstracted) background. To me, the model seems to come out of the screen. At least, that's how it appears to me. You have to view at 'original size', btw
 

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