Long duration monolight(?) for hypersync application

vdotmatrix said:

i am looking for a portable flash with a long duration that i can use with my pocketwizard flexes for hypersync application beyond hss.

I have a handful of 580exii speedlights but i want something else.

the prophoto b1 may fit the bill but it is DC only. But who cares.... does anyone use hypersync for high speed photography ? What portable lights do you use?

i would also use the lights for portrature....

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vdotmatrix said:

i am looking for a portable flash with a long duration that i can use with my pocketwizard flexes for hypersync application beyond hss.

I have a handful of 580exii speedlights but i want something else.

the prophoto b1 may fit the bill but it is DC only. But who cares.... does anyone use hypersync for high speed photography ? What portable lights do you use?

i would also use the lights for portrature....

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vdotmatrix said:

i am looking for a portable flash with a long duration that i can use with my pocketwizard flexes for hypersync application beyond hss.

I have a handful of 580exii speedlights but i want something else.

the prophoto b1 may fit the bill but it is DC only. But who cares.... does anyone use hypersync for high speed photography ? What portable lights do you use?

i would also use the lights for portrature....

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vdotmatrix said:

i am looking for a portable flash with a long duration that i can use with my pocketwizard flexes for hypersync application beyond hss.

I have a handful of 580exii speedlights but i want something else.

the prophoto b1 may fit the bill but it is DC only. But who cares.... does anyone use hypersync for high speed photography ? What portable lights do you use?

i would also use the lights for portrature....

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Nikonparrothead said:

Those StudioMax lights are nice. And yes, you can do quite a bit with a battery pack (though you don't need that to see if they'll work Hypersync).

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Don89 said:

I use Elinchrom strobes for HS. Look at their website for how they implement it. It's trigger and timing driven. Not a slow burn low power approach. Uses up to the full power of the strobe.

Here's some hummingbirds. 1/5000 of a second. The strobe was the ELC HD Pro 1000 It was daylight so you can obliterate ambient light all the way to balanced fill. Whatever is desired. I run Buff VLX batteries/inverter or the Ranger RX AS Speed portable pack. The trigger handles the timing. Broncolor does it this way too.

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vdotmatrix said:

Don89 said:

I use Elinchrom strobes for HS. Look at their website for how they implement it. It's trigger and timing driven. Not a slow burn low power approach. Uses up to the full power of the strobe.

Here's some hummingbirds. 1/5000 of a second. The strobe was the ELC HD Pro 1000 It was daylight so you can obliterate ambient light all the way to balanced fill. Whatever is desired. I run Buff VLX batteries/inverter or the Ranger RX AS Speed portable pack. The trigger handles the timing. Broncolor does it this way too.

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love it!!!!!!!

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Don89 said:

vdotmatrix said:

Don89 said:

I use Elinchrom strobes for HS. Look at their website for how they implement it. It's trigger and timing driven. Not a slow burn low power approach. Uses up to the full power of the strobe.

Here's some hummingbirds. 1/5000 of a second. The strobe was the ELC HD Pro 1000 It was daylight so you can obliterate ambient light all the way to balanced fill. Whatever is desired. I run Buff VLX batteries/inverter or the Ranger RX AS Speed portable pack. The trigger handles the timing. Broncolor does it this way too.

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love it!!!!!!!

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Here's balanced. I think 1/2000 f3-5.6 Elinchrom RX AS Speed and standard head.

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vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

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RE Alpha said:

vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

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Yes, it is really handy when you have portable power to play with. Using a strobe that is designed as a battery powered unit and having HS is a joy to work with on location. Using a AC powered strobe that can also work on battery is also an idea although I find this pretty heavy to carry around (using Bowens Gemini) and that's why I am switching to a strobe that was designed to be used with a battery.

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Don89 said:

RE Alpha said:

vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

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Yes, it is really handy when you have portable power to play with. Using a strobe that is designed as a battery powered unit and having HS is a joy to work with on location. Using a AC powered strobe that can also work on battery is also an idea although I find this pretty heavy to carry around (using Bowens Gemini) and that's why I am switching to a strobe that was designed to be used with a battery.

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My experience. YMMV...

I prefer the Paul C Buff VLX batteries for my AC strobes. I can shoot for hours and not concern myself with how many pops I can get. With Elinchrom HS Trigger, no need for me to go out and buy even more strobe gear. The new HS trigger finally modernizes Elinchrom triggers. I've always seriously HATED the old fiddly triggers. Now I have control of the strobes from the trigger itself, the integrated Sekonic meter, and iPhone (via wifi network I can set up for a shoot).

The Buff VLX batteries are not heavy. If I cannot carry my gear, heck... go to the gym and lift free weights and do cardio. It helps your stamina on hours long shoots and you actually have less camera shake. I just hang the VLX on a stand for extra weight. Ive driven three AC strobes per VLX.

Weight is never a concern. If it is a concern, I'll take up knitting or quilting.

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Don89 said:

RE Alpha said:

vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

Click to expand...

Yes, it is really handy when you have portable power to play with. Using a strobe that is designed as a battery powered unit and having HS is a joy to work with on location. Using a AC powered strobe that can also work on battery is also an idea although I find this pretty heavy to carry around (using Bowens Gemini) and that's why I am switching to a strobe that was designed to be used with a battery.

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My experience. YMMV...

I prefer the Paul C Buff VLX batteries for my AC strobes. I can shoot for hours and not concern myself with how many pops I can get. With Elinchrom HS Trigger, no need for me to go out and buy even more strobe gear. The new HS trigger finally modernizes Elinchrom triggers. I've always seriously HATED the old fiddly triggers. Now I have control of the strobes from the trigger itself, the integrated Sekonic meter, and iPhone (via wifi network I can set up for a shoot).

The Buff VLX batteries are not heavy. If I cannot carry my gear, heck... go to the gym and lift free weights and do cardio. It helps your stamina on hours long shoots and you actually have less camera shake. I just hang the VLX on a stand for extra weight. Ive driven three AC strobes per VLX.

Weight is never a concern. If it is a concern, I'll take up knitting or quilting.

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RE Alpha said:

Don89 said:

RE Alpha said:

vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

Click to expand...

Yes, it is really handy when you have portable power to play with. Using a strobe that is designed as a battery powered unit and having HS is a joy to work with on location. Using a AC powered strobe that can also work on battery is also an idea although I find this pretty heavy to carry around (using Bowens Gemini) and that's why I am switching to a strobe that was designed to be used with a battery.

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My experience. YMMV...

I prefer the Paul C Buff VLX batteries for my AC strobes. I can shoot for hours and not concern myself with how many pops I can get. With Elinchrom HS Trigger, no need for me to go out and buy even more strobe gear. The new HS trigger finally modernizes Elinchrom triggers. I've always seriously HATED the old fiddly triggers. Now I have control of the strobes from the trigger itself, the integrated Sekonic meter, and iPhone (via wifi network I can set up for a shoot).

The Buff VLX batteries are not heavy. If I cannot carry my gear, heck... go to the gym and lift free weights and do cardio. It helps your stamina on hours long shoots and you actually have less camera shake. I just hang the VLX on a stand for extra weight. Ive driven three AC strobes per VLX.

Weight is never a concern. If it is a concern, I'll take up knitting or quilting.

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Indeed, weight itself is not a concern, however, having to carry around additional quite heavy batteries for these Bowens, is quite a hassle. At least I find it a hassle. I have been given the Broncolor Siros L and the Profoto B1 a testrun and both did well. For some reason (not tested) I tend to find that the Siros L gives a touch more reliability and predictability. And the ones I had (the 800J versions) were very consistent throughout with a lot of firing power.

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Don89 said:

RE Alpha said:

Don89 said:

RE Alpha said:

vdotmatrix said:

Geez that's really nice....I will have to compare the specs on my studiomax IIIs and you guys' toys...Of course I never had portable power to play with my monolights so I am getting all excited.

Click to expand...

Yes, it is really handy when you have portable power to play with. Using a strobe that is designed as a battery powered unit and having HS is a joy to work with on location. Using a AC powered strobe that can also work on battery is also an idea although I find this pretty heavy to carry around (using Bowens Gemini) and that's why I am switching to a strobe that was designed to be used with a battery.

Click to expand...

My experience. YMMV...

I prefer the Paul C Buff VLX batteries for my AC strobes. I can shoot for hours and not concern myself with how many pops I can get. With Elinchrom HS Trigger, no need for me to go out and buy even more strobe gear. The new HS trigger finally modernizes Elinchrom triggers. I've always seriously HATED the old fiddly triggers. Now I have control of the strobes from the trigger itself, the integrated Sekonic meter, and iPhone (via wifi network I can set up for a shoot).

The Buff VLX batteries are not heavy. If I cannot carry my gear, heck... go to the gym and lift free weights and do cardio. It helps your stamina on hours long shoots and you actually have less camera shake. I just hang the VLX on a stand for extra weight. Ive driven three AC strobes per VLX.

Weight is never a concern. If it is a concern, I'll take up knitting or quilting.

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Indeed, weight itself is not a concern, however, having to carry around additional quite heavy batteries for these Bowens, is quite a hassle. At least I find it a hassle. I have been given the Broncolor Siros L and the Profoto B1 a testrun and both did well. For some reason (not tested) I tend to find that the Siros L gives a touch more reliability and predictability. And the ones I had (the 800J versions) were very consistent throughout with a lot of firing power.

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Buff batteries are not heavy. I don't notice them. They provide a huge amount of capacity which is my requirement. And they've driven 3 AC strobes.

But then I've also done several weeks in the Himalayia mountains with 15Kg (33 pounds) of camera gear in a backpack, bloody tripod plus clothes and supplies... worst day was 6,000 foot climb from hell up the south side of a sun exposed mountain... so no matter the effort, the photography is worth it. No chargers, no electric, no roads, taxi or bus. Just mountains. Some things are just plain worth the effort. But that's me.

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