Minolta Zeus (another DSLR rumour)

That is Joseph W.'s website: He is in the dpreview forums.
If someone can get his attention, he may tell us more!
--Hey Jose,
I'm unfamiliar with the Yahoo forum group.
Who is "swissarmyfork" and how often does he post these tables.
Who is his source of info.
And most importantly, how often is he correct.
Inquiring minds want to know!
Sol
Hey bud, actually the source I think came from here (dpreview). I
couldn't track the original thread on yahoo as the threads there
are not as neatly organized as here. Anyway, I think that whoever
post the info. on Minolta Yahoo got it here from dpreview. Not sure
whether it was posted on News Discussions or Open Talk but
definitely not here on Minolta talk.

Like I said in my previous posts I will treat all of these rumours
as a shot in the dark. I will believe the DSLR when I see it on the
store shelves.

Best regards,

José
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Sometimes a photograph captures the imagination.
Ultimately, a photograph simply captures a moment in time.
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--Hey Jose,
I'm unfamiliar with the Yahoo forum group.
Who is "swissarmyfork" and how often does he post these tables.
Who is his source of info.
And most importantly, how often is he correct.
Inquiring minds want to know!
Sol
Hey bud, actually the source I think came from here (dpreview). I
couldn't track the original thread on yahoo as the threads there
are not as neatly organized as here. Anyway, I think that whoever
post the info. on Minolta Yahoo got it here from dpreview. Not sure
whether it was posted on News Discussions or Open Talk but
definitely not here on Minolta talk.

Like I said in my previous posts I will treat all of these rumours
as a shot in the dark. I will believe the DSLR when I see it on the
store shelves.

Best regards,

José
Sometimes a photograph captures reality.
Sometimes a photograph captures the imagination.
Ultimately, a photograph simply captures a moment in time.
And then, . . . it lives forever.
--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
why would it have the same sensor as the d100 and not the same iso?
seems fishy.

e
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

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why would it have the same sensor as the d100 and not the same iso?
seems fishy.
But how come the Pentax which has a similar sensor as the D100 has a different ISO than the D100? As a matter of fact, both Pentax and the Zeus have the same ISO range.
e
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
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I'm having a hard time buying into this one. If there is going to be a Minolta DSLR and it is going to be called Zeus, then why the old technology image sensor? Zeus is supposed to be the wisest and most powerful of the gods and he is going to use an image sensor that could be knocked off by Spartacus?!?! I like the name but I would expect more. If they planned to use the new sensor in the Sony 828 or a new Foveon X3 or something new and exotic (more powerful either in resolution or dynamic range) then I'm all for it. But the D100 produces images that consistently underwhelm me the most. In the hands of a skilled shooter it can produce excellent images but with the 10D or SD9 even a novice can produce excellent images on a regular basis.

Just thought I'd spread some of the ether floating around in my head!
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
 
Have you seen ISO 6400 on the Nikon.

Total WOT.

They probably deleted it.
why would it have the same sensor as the d100 and not the same iso?
seems fishy.
But how come the Pentax which has a similar sensor as the D100 has
a different ISO than the D100? As a matter of fact, both Pentax and
the Zeus have the same ISO range.
e
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
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Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
Who really knows David. I am pretty sure Minolta has two or three concept DSLR bodies out there being tested. Maybe Minolta will smack a new sensor in that body when the DSLR comes out.

Remember last year when there were a lot of complaining in the Nikon SLR talk about their images being soft? It reminded me of the Canon SLR talk and all the whinning about the focus issue.

All I can say is that since Minolta is already late coming to the DSLR party, they better get this right. I would not mind waiting until spring of next year.

Cheers,

José
Just thought I'd spread some of the ether floating around in my head!
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
Thanks!
Biu
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
Who really knows David. I am pretty sure Minolta has two or three
concept DSLR bodies out there being tested. Maybe Minolta will
smack a new sensor in that body when the DSLR comes out.
One would hope so!
Remember last year when there were a lot of complaining in the
Nikon SLR talk about their images being soft? It reminded me of the
Canon SLR talk and all the whinning about the focus issue.
Wellllllll...Nikon's images (D100) DO tend to be on the soft side and Canon (10D) DOES have a focus problem. I fully expect there to be some bugs (and a few dissatisfied buyers) when Minolta does release OUR DSLR :-) but lets hope that things aren't as widespread as with buyers of the previously mentioned cameras.
All I can say is that since Minolta is already late coming to the
DSLR party, they better get this right. I would not mind waiting
until spring of next year.
Agreed! They had better get it right for those of us who remain loyal and patient.
Cheers,

José
Just thought I'd spread some of the ether floating around in my head!
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
 
Wellllllll...Nikon's images (D100) DO tend to be on the soft side
and Canon (10D) DOES have a focus problem. I fully expect there to
be some bugs (and a few dissatisfied buyers) when Minolta does
release OUR DSLR :-) but lets hope that things aren't as widespread
as with buyers of the previously mentioned cameras.
No focus problems here with my 10D.
Agreed! They had better get it right for those of us who remain
loyal and patient.
I am keeping my Minolta lenses and the Maxxum 7. Tell ya nothing like a camera that you can adjust the metering and other camera function without having to take your eye off the viewfinder. I like the Flash system better on Minolta than Canon. I have until mid September to decide if I am going to keep the 10D. But if any firm details come out about a Maxxum 7 based DSLR the 10D goes back and the EOS lenses go on the block.

Darrin

--
Remember, never eat more than you can lift.
 
damn! the specs r nice! i'm looking forward to it. hopefully it's gonna be several models (Maxxum/Dynax 5, 7-based) so that one will be in the "expensive" range (over $1400 for the body) and the other in the "average consumer" range (under that amount). although my D7i is just 2 months old (Gateway sale 8-)) after trying RAW i realized that i need an upgrade that will allow to work with the format like pro-sumer cameras do w/ JPEG. so the very least that i'm gonna upgrade is A1 class (it might be something other than Minolta if it's better and cheaper).

--

It all depends on your skills. Camera plays a lesser role than the knowledge of the photographer when it comes to taking pictures.

Paraphrased from words of an experienced photographer when asking him which camera is better
 
Wellllllll...Nikon's images (D100) DO tend to be on the soft side
and Canon (10D) DOES have a focus problem. I fully expect there to
be some bugs (and a few dissatisfied buyers) when Minolta does
release OUR DSLR :-) but lets hope that things aren't as widespread
as with buyers of the previously mentioned cameras.
No focus problems here with my 10D.
MOST PEOPLE don't have a problem but TOO MANY do. There is definitely a QC problem, one that is large enough to make me personally hesitate to purchase one.
Agreed! They had better get it right for those of us who remain
loyal and patient.
I am keeping my Minolta lenses and the Maxxum 7. Tell ya nothing
like a camera that you can adjust the metering and other camera
function without having to take your eye off the viewfinder. I like
the Flash system better on Minolta than Canon. I have until mid
September to decide if I am going to keep the 10D. But if any firm
details come out about a Maxxum 7 based DSLR the 10D goes back and
the EOS lenses go on the block.
The Maxxum 7 never ceases to please me. Just last weekend I took some pictures of family members backlit by late afternoon sunlight and the viewfinder and metering system were dead on in alerting me to a potential problem. I could actually see the problem in the viewfinder itself. The answer of course was fill flash. I will be really disappointed if the Minolta DSLR doesn't live up to the lofty standards set by the Maxxum 7. The Maxxum 9 may be the high-end pro body but it was the 7 that really made the photography world sit up and take notice of Minolta again (but I will admit to wishing I had a 9 to complete my Maxxum film line of the 5 and 7 ;-)
Darrin

--
Remember, never eat more than you can lift.
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
 
The Maxxum 7 never ceases to please me. Just last weekend I took
some pictures of family members backlit by late afternoon sunlight
and the viewfinder and metering system were dead on in alerting me
to a potential problem. I could actually see the problem in the
viewfinder itself. The answer of course was fill flash. I will be
really disappointed if the Minolta DSLR doesn't live up to the
lofty standards set by the Maxxum 7. The Maxxum 9 may be the
high-end pro body but it was the 7 that really made the photography
world sit up and take notice of Minolta again (but I will admit to
wishing I had a 9 to complete my Maxxum film line of the 5 and 7 ;-)
The ultimate solution there David is a Maxxum 9-based DSLR!

Going back to the 7, I just love how bright the viewfinder is. I love taking pictures with the 7 so much that I have neglected the 7Hi. Still contemplating if I should pick up the Maxxum 300/4 to supplement my inventory of fine Maxxum prime lenses.

José
Darrin

--
Remember, never eat more than you can lift.
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
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Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
Well, its not really "old tech". Canons 6MP CMOS is slightly older and still going strong in the 300D, but they made quite a few improvements from the D60 to the 10D.

The Sony is the only available "off the shelf" bayer sensor. Its also used in the Pentax *ist, but now its been around for over a year its quite possible that some improvements have been made.

To get things in perspective its still way better than the 4/3 sensor for noise, just not quite as good as the Canon.

Steve
Just thought I'd spread some of the ether floating around in my head!
Hi gang,

Got this from the Minolta Yahoo Groups
http://www.swissarmyfork.com/dslr_table_1.htm

Sony chip, ISO 200-3200, 1.5x crop. Ummm, I can live with this.
Let's see, that sweet lens 85/1.4 becomes 128/1.4. If this becomes
reality + the possibility of AS technology embedded in it, I might
pick up that 300/4 after all.

Keeping the faith,

José

--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
--
David

I shoot people all the time–but I use cameras, not guns!
http://homepage.mac.com/david_g_force
 
Minolta traditionally introduce a new series starting from the high end.
Look at the 9, 7, 5, 4, 3 path. Previous series was similar as well.
Biu
damn! the specs r nice! i'm looking forward to it. hopefully it's
gonna be several models (Maxxum/Dynax 5, 7-based) so that one will
be in the "expensive" range (over $1400 for the body) and the other
in the "average consumer" range (under that amount). although my
D7i is just 2 months old (Gateway sale 8-)) after trying RAW i
realized that i need an upgrade that will allow to work with the
format like pro-sumer cameras do w/ JPEG. so the very least that
i'm gonna upgrade is A1 class (it might be something other than
Minolta if it's better and cheaper).

--
It all depends on your skills. Camera plays a lesser role than the
knowledge of the photographer when it comes to taking pictures.
Paraphrased from words of an experienced photographer when asking
him which camera is better
 
damn! the specs r nice! i'm looking forward to it. hopefully it's
gonna be several models (Maxxum/Dynax 5, 7-based) so that one will
be in the "expensive" range (over $1400 for the body) and the other
in the "average consumer" range (under that amount). although my
D7i is just 2 months old (Gateway sale 8-)) after trying RAW i
realized that i need an upgrade that will allow to work with the
format like pro-sumer cameras do w/ JPEG. so the very least that
i'm gonna upgrade is A1 class (it might be something other than
Minolta if it's better and cheaper).

--
It all depends on your skills. Camera plays a lesser role than the
knowledge of the photographer when it comes to taking pictures.
Paraphrased from words of an experienced photographer when asking
him which camera is better
--
Come and visit me at:
http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56
 
I'm not sure they will be doing that with their DSLR line. From the time the Maxxum 7 came out it was pretty clear to me it would be their first choice for a DSLR body because it already had a large LCD on the back of the camera body. Also, I think its important for Minolta to compete right now (feature AND price wise) and not just claim bragging rights to having a pro DSLR. Oly invested in that approach and I think they made a mistake.

Paul
damn! the specs r nice! i'm looking forward to it. hopefully it's
gonna be several models (Maxxum/Dynax 5, 7-based) so that one will
be in the "expensive" range (over $1400 for the body) and the other
in the "average consumer" range (under that amount). although my
D7i is just 2 months old (Gateway sale 8-)) after trying RAW i
realized that i need an upgrade that will allow to work with the
format like pro-sumer cameras do w/ JPEG. so the very least that
i'm gonna upgrade is A1 class (it might be something other than
Minolta if it's better and cheaper).

--
It all depends on your skills. Camera plays a lesser role than the
knowledge of the photographer when it comes to taking pictures.
Paraphrased from words of an experienced photographer when asking
him which camera is better
 

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