And don't pack them all together in a single box on an aeroplane ....
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More thoughts on aftermarket batteries
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Then perhaps buying a camera where the OEM batteries are as cheap as third party ones would be a better move.
I wonder how many people here spend $50--100/month on mobile phone plans, but never really use those plans to the fullest extent?
I wonder how many people here spend $50--100/month on mobile phone plans, but never really use those plans to the fullest extent?
Bent pliers?
Luckily I have never experienced a tight jam. It is quite easy to run finger and thumb over a battery and feel a swell starting.
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Tommi K1
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Well... Often it is that the printer ink amount that comes with the printer is 1/4 or 1/3 of the full replacement cartridge. So it is maybe cheaper to buy a new printer (like 49€ for printer) than a replacement ink (39€) and then sell the printer off without inks for 30€ or so. But this is reason why aftermarket inks really are worth as they need to provide good enough quality so customers comes back to save money. If you get bad results or devices dies.... It is a PR catastrophe.
But for many printers I wouldn't buy other than OEM own ones. It is just the tested for weathering to withstand more than some aftermarket inks.
Old Listener
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lowflyerguy
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I look at it this way:
Of course, I don't want to throw away money needlessly. And I am about as far from "brand loyal" as one can get (my spouse says I am immune to marketing, although I think that's only true to an extent).
But I figure in the big picture, the price differential between OEM batteries and some cheap knock-off (even from an established third-party vendor with a decent reputation) is pretty small. For me, it's just not worth the potential headaches of getting a knock-off battery for the small savings. I'll pay the admittedly exorbitant OEM prices for an extra OEM battery or two just for the peace of mind that gives me, one less thing to worry about, etc. Life is too short to worry about such things, and I'd rather just be done with it and not worry, even if it costs me a bit more.
Other folks have different priorities. Nothing wrong with that, just not the way I choose to go.
Of course, I don't want to throw away money needlessly. And I am about as far from "brand loyal" as one can get (my spouse says I am immune to marketing, although I think that's only true to an extent).
But I figure in the big picture, the price differential between OEM batteries and some cheap knock-off (even from an established third-party vendor with a decent reputation) is pretty small. For me, it's just not worth the potential headaches of getting a knock-off battery for the small savings. I'll pay the admittedly exorbitant OEM prices for an extra OEM battery or two just for the peace of mind that gives me, one less thing to worry about, etc. Life is too short to worry about such things, and I'd rather just be done with it and not worry, even if it costs me a bit more.
Other folks have different priorities. Nothing wrong with that, just not the way I choose to go.
Corkcampbell
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Not for Panasonic shareholders. Thank-you for your contribution.
I'm simply conveying what was written in the article, I didn't write the article. That said, my experiences with third party batteries hasn't been very good and there are others on this forum that have experienced swollen batteries etc.
If you can buy third party products that are guaranteed to meet all the requirements of an OEM product at a far cheaper price, then fill your boots. But comparing third party lenses or bodies is not germane to this topic, but given what you've said, I assume that you own a Yi M1 because it appears to meet your requirements.
Just think of the money that you would have saved by sticking to just one brand of camera.
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Tommi K1
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What? You mean like duct tape them in 5 batches and attach a watch to them so you remember when to recharge them? NOOOO!!!!
In military flights you have no restrictions really.... After all a few batteries ain't so dangerous than everyone having an weapon, skills and ways to kill and you are anyway sitting often near hundreds of kilos of explosives
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Tommi K1
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Too easy to damage either body or the battery (to cause more serious problem).
Just dropping few drops of glue, pressing a small nylon strap on it and let dry, and then pull out the battery.
Yes. The worst thing really is when it gets shortcutted so the battery welds itself on the electronic pins in the body.... That is the fancy thing to try remove as you are pulling more than the battery out. To avoid that the only way is then to cut the battery end open, pull everything out and then cut the other end and do some surgery gaming...
I remember that being Sony.
I've owned many different brands of aftermarket battery and not had one really good experience with them. My most recent purchase was what I thought was an OEM battery, but turned out to be a very respectable looking clone and it lasts maybe 1/10 of the time of an OEM battery.
People say that all these batteries come out of the same factory, so why don't they last and perform exactly the same as an OEM battery. My original E-M1 batteries is now over three years old and still performs perfectly. I have batteries from my E-1, E-3 and E-5 that still perform perfectly.
Some say that there's no difference in batteries and good luck to them. All I did with this post is point out another article (two actually) that offer some comment on aftermarket batteries, yet people keep attacking the messenger. But that's always easier to do that debating the issue.
That's the way that I look at it. I've been in situations where an aftermarket battery has bitten the dust prematurely and it's not a good feeling when you are on an assignment. Thankfully I've had OEM batteries with me.
The issue with batteries nowadays is the fact that they too have complex electronics installed and it's usually the electronics that fail, not the battery cells themselves. If these aftermarket batteries are so good, why can't they be charged in the OEM charger?
The issue with batteries nowadays is the fact that they too have complex electronics installed and it's usually the electronics that fail, not the battery cells themselves. If these aftermarket batteries are so good, why can't they be charged in the OEM charger?
Chinese air regulations have made it hard to ship batteries out of China unless they are a single battery with a device. Last time I bought a few they came to Australia via Malmo in Sweden as apparently the Swedish airline was one of the few still carrying batteries out of China - or maybe they are simply banned from passenger carrying flights and have to only go on dedicated air cargo flights?What? You mean like duct tape them in 5 batches and attach a watch to them so you remember when to recharge them? NOOOO!!!!
In military flights you have no restrictions really.... After all a few batteries ain't so dangerous than everyone having an weapon, skills and ways to kill and you are anyway sitting often near hundreds of kilos of explosives
Easier supply these days just to pay some more and buy them locally.
WhiteBeard
Senior Member
My serious ink jet printer is an Epson Pro printer that will make prints to A2 size on archival matte heavy stock. It has the unfortunate problem of needing eight VHS size cartridges which come with 70-year no-fade guarantee. However I just replaced half of them (four) for slightly under AUD$1,000. Luckily they last me a good while. However it is a bit like being stuck between a rock and several hard places. Firstly nobody makes clones of these commercial cartridges, secondly if the printer is not used regularly the nozzles tend to clog and thirdly such infrequent use requires much ink sucking performances to clear jets which uses up (wastes) more ink in the process.
People roll their eyes at the cost of one of these large showpiece presented prints and the rush off to a commercial bureau and pay $30 for one printed on near tissue paper.
Next time I buy another batch of some good paper stock it wll be another $1,000.
So no cheap "$50" Officework specials half filled with ink for me I am afraid.
I certainly wouldn't take Amazon reviews at face value. And you have to understand that some battery brands are simply not available in Australia, no matter how good the reviews.
the one i bought is accepted and charged by the same , which came with the camera, charger.
if its on par with the original? i don't yet know, i use it as a backup charge.
(i charge both and switch if needed, leave the last one in and store the last charged again pack in the bag. Switch if needed and so further. Let you know after a year or so.
if its on par with the original? i don't yet know, i use it as a backup charge.
(i charge both and switch if needed, leave the last one in and store the last charged again pack in the bag. Switch if needed and so further. Let you know after a year or so.
Well, the article you link says " the best-performing battery was not the genuine Panasonic DMW-BLF19."
Nobody is saying all third party and noname batteries are good. But some of them are.
This has nothing to do with the quality. Original battery has a chip that communicates with a charger (and a camera). If charger doesn't recognise the battery (because it doesn't have a chip) it simply refuses to charge.
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