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Panasonic just announced the FZ70
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ireno
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Thank you. You mean ZS70. I want one!
trevmar
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Panasonic again limit the video length to 30 minutes! Looks like I continue to use my phone for video hangouts. Panasonic, you idiots! Have you no brains at all? While I continue to select phones with good cameras, so I can use them for video, I really don't need to buy the FS70. My LF1 has 7x zoom, it doubles well as a travel camera. I already have one (two actually), and trust it to deal with deliberate photos (in RAW). The phone camera will be ready to take all the quick candid shots...
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What do you shoot that requires more than 30 minutes of continuous video? I shoot short takes and combine them later.
I think he shoots lectures..sermens..something like that.
Not sure why the need for HD for that. The audio might be the most important thing to record
I think if one lowers the resolution to 720p, then no 29min. limit.
I just shot 2 1/2 hr video...but just left camera on tripod, and let it record (FZ80 with its wider lens)
. Family gathering...so I want some memories ...not just of their faces...but if the fun and laughter that happens every time we gather together.
Used MP4 video
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trevmar
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Well, there you go - we all want memories... I have left the shutter rolling at many parties and seminars. A camera which imposes an artificial limit puts a crimp on those memories. That is the choice Panasonic has made for many of its models, and that is why I just bought two Xiaomi Yi 4K wide-angle cameras, now with inbuilt lens correction. The three Sony tele-zoom GW66 handheld 1080p camcorders still do the bulk of my video work. My two LF1, FZ200 and LX7 have mostly joined the shelf along with ZS3, LX5 and prior purchases. Sure I still use the LX7 for product-shots 'in studio'. But as Panasonic's camera division fades, it will not be affecting my creativity.
I have "ProShot" on my cellphone to give me manual control over the phone's photos (now in RAW) and videos, but these days the automatic candid phone shots are pretty good. Fine for parties and family gatherings (etc),
Using the terms "HD" for 720p, with "FullHD" for 1080p shows just how far Panny is behind the times. Maybe they never envision "FullHD" transitioning to 4K?
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Mainly due to the European laws that if it records 30minutes , than its a video recorder, and then charge more. Not Panasonics wanting to do this, but to not have to add the extra cost to the customers.
My 11 year old TV uses HD...though its only 720P.
With the lower video settings...you can capture memories.You can record for hours in this mode...so no time limit. (battery drain, of course will limit the time, as will size of SD card).
Panasonic surely envisioned 4K...as they are the forerunners....putting it into cameras, before anyone else...plus the added features of post focus, 8MP stills from 4K.
They are the envisionary Electronics company...setting the standards for the camera companies....the LX3 pioneered Canon and others to stop the megapixel race and focus on I.Q. Canon revived the S series soon after.
Panasonic was the forerunner to add wider angle lenses to their compacts....again before Nikon, Canon, etc.
They came out with O.I.S. in their cameras...way before Canon did.
They came out with a constant f2.8 lens...around 13 years ago
We really don't need 4K TVs...The new HDR or High Dynamic Range, if it catches on, is very nice when the TV can cover that extended dynamic range and the addition of 10 HDR and Dolby vision 12 bit per primary color and expanded color space is a great upgrade. 4k in these cameras don't do any of this yet.
But most 4K tvs people buy today don't support the new formats either. Will everybody upgrade there TVs again?
I'll stick with 1080p for a while yet.
4k in these cameras is good for capturing stills at high frame rates. I'll give you that but 4k for tv video is only good for very large screens. 120 inch diagonal 16x9 sitting closer than 16 feet from the screen is where it will begin to help. Sitting closer than 8 feet from a 60 inch screen will start to help. Who sits that close to a tv in a living room? Most TVs in homes are less than 60 inch. Your eye can't resolve more pixels than 1920x1080 on a 60 inch diagonal screen at 8 feet and greater distance from the screen and if you have 20:20 vision. For most households 1080p is more than enough video resolution.
Ron
But most 4K tvs people buy today don't support the new formats either. Will everybody upgrade there TVs again?
I'll stick with 1080p for a while yet.
4k in these cameras is good for capturing stills at high frame rates. I'll give you that but 4k for tv video is only good for very large screens. 120 inch diagonal 16x9 sitting closer than 16 feet from the screen is where it will begin to help. Sitting closer than 8 feet from a 60 inch screen will start to help. Who sits that close to a tv in a living room? Most TVs in homes are less than 60 inch. Your eye can't resolve more pixels than 1920x1080 on a 60 inch diagonal screen at 8 feet and greater distance from the screen and if you have 20:20 vision. For most households 1080p is more than enough video resolution.
Ron
trevmar
Senior Member
Rubbish! As you say, the key is "for many of its cameras." I buy my cameras in the USA, and those all used to be free of this restriction, but not any more... No, this limitation is a marketing choice made in an attempt to protect its camcorder division from cameras cannibalizing the camcorder market. It has failed. Pity, because my best cameras were made by Panasonic.
Oh well...
I'm reading this. It's compact, it's got a flip-up backscreen, EVF and focus-stacking. My LX7 and my LF1 don't have these. But the lens says the maximum f/stop is 3.3. Very limited, not worth building, IMO.
Can it really have a 4.3 to 129mm focal length? Does anyone know the size of the sensor? A bigger sensor means the focal length is not as extreme as it seems.
Can it really have a 4.3 to 129mm focal length? Does anyone know the size of the sensor? A bigger sensor means the focal length is not as extreme as it seems.
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Jerry045
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The specs say it is a 1/2.3" sensor, 6.17mm x 4.55mm. Same sensor size as in the FZ300, FZ80, etc.
Focal length is identical to the ZS60. Aperture range is the same as the ZS60 also.
Did you read the part where you can shoot for hours?
720p. allows for that.
BTW, what about the other camera companies doing the same ...limiting the recording time ?
I guess you think the 15 min limitation in 4k mode , has nothing to do with heat...but yet another marketing choice ?
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