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I have been using MS SyncToy 2.1 on a Windows 10 machine for some time with no issues.

I recently did a update to the latest and greatest Win 10. However, I suddenly have experienced a SyncToy issue - it locks up on a small folder of jpegs created after the Win 10 update.. I even dumped the file it locked up on, but it selected another new similar folder to lock up on.

No problems with other large folders of raw files.

So my question - has anyone else who uses SyncToy 2.1 experienced any problems in recent days?

Have I pushed SynToy beyond its age?

If it is just me, I may have to find something else.
 
Jim B (MSP) said:
I have tried driving the compatibility backwards to Win 7 and Win 8, but it still hangs up, though in a different place."
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Sync Toy is my preferred backup software for W7 and I've used it for ages.
Although I have W10 on my laptop I've not downloaded Sync Toy.
However, looking at the MS download page, it does say Sync Toy is for "Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP" so maybe you are pushing it too far on W10?
Hopefully MS can keep SyncToy updated since it's a very useful little program.
 
Try Goodsync and you won'the use Sync Toy again. The free version is good but the paid version is excellent. Goodsync is really fast and completes a daily sync of my 4Tb data drives in seconds.
 
Nikman20 said:
Try Goodsync and you won'the use Sync Toy again. The free version is good but the paid version is excellent. Goodsync is really fast and completes a daily sync of my 4Tb data drives in seconds.
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Sync Toy has no limitation on number of files or jobs, and I often need to backup more than100 files.

The only alternative I've ever tried was Easeus ToDo Backup , which seemed pretty decent (and also free.)
 
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Jim B (MSP) said:
I have been using MS SyncToy 2.1 on a Windows 10 machine for some time with no issues.

I recently did a update to the latest and greatest Win 10. However, I suddenly have experienced a SyncToy issue - it locks up on a small folder of jpegs created after the Win 10 update.. I even dumped the file it locked up on, but it selected another new similar folder to lock up on.

No problems with other large folders of raw files.

So my question - has anyone else who uses SyncToy 2.1 experienced any problems in recent days?

Have I pushed SynToy beyond its age?

If it is just me, I may have to find something else.
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I haven't used SyncToy since I started using FreeFileSync a few years ago.

synctoy vs freefilesync

If you try it, just be aware that it may load an unwanted program/adware if you don't opt out during the installation.

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Patco
A photograph is more than a bunch of pixels
 
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Windows 10 Pro v. 1607 built 14393 - no problems.
 
I've been using SyncToy 2.1 on Win10 for well over a year and never any problems. Using it for syncs to two separate internal drives and three different externals.

I've tried some of the other offerings, but find this simple programme does exactly what I want.
 
Just use robocopy. It's built into the OS and super easy to use.

Example command:

robocopy e:\Photos f:\Photos

That will sync everything from the e:\photos directory to the f:\photos directory. I will only copy new and changed files by default. Works great to sync up files to your backup drive.
 
Jim B (MSP) said:
I have been using MS SyncToy 2.1 on a Windows 10 machine for some time with no issues.

I recently did a update to the latest and greatest Win 10. However, I suddenly have experienced a SyncToy issue - it locks up on a small folder of jpegs created after the Win 10 update.. I even dumped the file it locked up on, but it selected another new similar folder to lock up on.

No problems with other large folders of raw files.

So my question - has anyone else who uses SyncToy 2.1 experienced any problems in recent days?

Have I pushed SynToy beyond its age?

If it is just me, I may have to find something else.
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Patco said:
Sagittarius said:
Windows 10 Pro v. 1607 built 14393 - no problems.
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The OP says he has the "latest and greatest", which would be Win 10 Ver. 1703 Bld 15063.
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According to Windows update, on April 11 I received Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4015217)

SyncToy started failing on the 12th. I have used it for years starting with Win 7 with no problems.

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Jim
"It's all about the light"
 
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tkbslc said:
Just use robocopy. It's built into the OS and super easy to use.

Example command:

robocopy e:\Photos f:\Photos

That will sync everything from the e:\photos directory to the f:\photos directory. I will only copy new and changed files by default. Works great to sync up files to your backup drive.
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I will have to consider this. This is basically what I want.

If I delete a file on e: , will it delete it on the target f ?
 
Jim B (MSP) said:
Patco said:
Sagittarius said:
Windows 10 Pro v. 1607 built 14393 - no problems.
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The OP says he has the "latest and greatest", which would be Win 10 Ver. 1703 Bld 15063.
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According to Windows update, on April 11 I received Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4015217)

SyncToy started failing on the 12th. I have used it for years starting with Win 7 with no problems.

--
Jim
"It's all about the light
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I performed a couple windows updates today, including the windows creators update. To my pleasant surprise, Windows file explorer performs MUCH faster. I have serval internal and external disks. The slow speed of windows file explorer in windows 10 has always bothered me. I wonder if Microsoft changed something fundamentally that improves windows file explorer but hosed SyncToy?

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Bill - Beverly Hills, MI
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Jim B (MSP) said:
tkbslc said:
Just use robocopy. It's built into the OS and super easy to use.

Example command:

robocopy e:\Photos f:\Photos

That will sync everything from the e:\photos directory to the f:\photos directory. I will only copy new and changed files by default. Works great to sync up files to your backup drive.
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I will have to consider this. This is basically what I want.

If I delete a file on e: , will it delete it on the target f ?
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Robocopy can definitely do this. IIRC you'll want to use the /MIR option. I'd provide the full robocopy syntax I use but I'm away from my Windows machine for the next week. My syntax basically does this:
  • completely mirror [source] to [destination]
  • if a mirror/copy fails on a file, retry the operation [X] amount of times
  • wait [X] seconds between retries
  • output a log file to [LogFileDirectory]
  • include [OnlyMyDesiredInfo] in the log file
Robocopy can be a bit intimidating due to the large number of options it has. Pretty much the entire documentation is included if you run "robocopy /?". My suggestion would be to review this and just copy/paste out the specific options you want to a separate file. You can then use this to build syntaxes that suit your own purposes and save those syntaxes to scripts or "reference" files you actually run your backups from.

BTW, you may be pleasantly surprised at robocopy's speed. It's pretty damn fast.
 
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Jim B (MSP) said:
If I delete a file on e: , will it delete it on the target f ?
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There is a mirror option /mir that will do that. I switched to robocopy a number of years ago from SyncToy because of stability problems. Robocopy leaves me in control and is very flexible if you are willing to use batch files.

Go to a command prompt and type robocopy /? for a complete list of options. You can make it do just about anything you want.
 
Sorry, Billiam! Didn't mean to duplicate your answer--typing at the same time. Great minds think alike!
 
Jim B (MSP) said:
tkbslc said:
Just use robocopy. It's built into the OS and super easy to use.

Example command:

robocopy e:\Photos f:\Photos

That will sync everything from the e:\photos directory to the f:\photos directory. I will only copy new and changed files by default. Works great to sync up files to your backup drive.
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I will have to consider this. This is basically what I want.

If I delete a file on e: , will it delete it on the target f ?
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This might be asking for problems. File corruption on E: gets propagated to F:.

I use Create Synchronicity which supports dynamic folder creation for changed files. It is set up using two sync runs, one that captures only new folder and file additions, then mirrors it, and a second sync run that looks for changed files and places any found in dynamically created dated folders leaving the old copies in their original place in the archive.

Create Synchronicity has its own scheduler, supports files size matching, time stamps, md5sum checking and copy validation, plus syncing to network drives. It also does log creation. You can also use Create Synchronicity to create zip files of a sync for backup purposes.

http://synchronicity.sourceforge.net/

Thank you
Russell
 
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Billiam29 said:
Robocopy can be a bit intimidating due to the large number of options it has.
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I like Robocopy too. There are some graphical front ends available which might be useful for those who hate the command line.
 
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