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Nor will they be replaced by an array cam. If the market has an interest - assuming the product makes it that far - it will find success. ILCs, however, aren't going anywhere for quite some time.
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New challenger to the DSLR market
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Kung Fu
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I said a decade, so we're in agreement.
Bobthearch
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Yes. Whoever made that claim seems to not be familiar with the definition of "optical zoom." But it isn't the usual digital zoom (cropping and stretching) either.
robgendreau
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Perhaps "zoom" is wrong in the sense that nothing zooms. But it does have different focal lengths. And it takes ONE shot with say 5x28mm and 5x70mm and then blends those. That so it has real info captured at different focal lengths and with different framing, as opposed to just cropping post. It then combines that info.
Some here seem to not be too familiar with stacking and layering and pixel shifting and the fact that these are existing technologies that work very well. Arrays of lower resolution cameras to create one high resolution image isn't new at all. The real difference here is that the computer in the camera and the lens/sensors have gotten good enough to throw this in one package.
In the tech specs it lists the three lens focal lengths, not zoom, btw, although some promo stuff says 5x zoom. I don't consider my bag of primes x-zoom, but I can see why they'd use that term instead of trying to explain what it does in reality in a promo.
I dunno why some people get so defensive about this stuff, especially since lots of us who use DSLRs and M43s and such employ these same techniques. I've already got a two lens camera in my phone too. And a two lens 360 camera. Great stuff; I wish them success.
Yeah, I do.
It's really not. It's been in use for many years in special applications.
No, there's room for plenty of different technologies. The problem is, we have these persistent dolts that espouse the next xyz whatever will replace SLRs, or replace ILCs or replace lenses or whatever, and they do so without understanding a bit about physics or the way ILCs and SLRs are actually used.
Try never, using this approach.
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Well, if we're lucky and both still around in 10 years, we can see who was right.
tko
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Slaps head. Why of course carrying around 12 sensors and lenses will always be cheaper than one. Why didn't I think of that, its so . . . obvious.
tko
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It's supposed to be released in weeks.
To date, there hasn't been a single full size image released. Not a hint of a working prototype. Nothing, nada, zero, poop.
The largest photo released is 2.8 MP. No proof it is real.
No one has touched one. Turned it on. Taken a photo (whether they were allowed to keep it or not.)
With movies, it's a bad sign when they don't let critics review a release in advance. It means they are hoping to quickly draw in people before the bad word of mouth spreads.
With technical products, it is exactly the same.
To date, there hasn't been a single full size image released. Not a hint of a working prototype. Nothing, nada, zero, poop.
The largest photo released is 2.8 MP. No proof it is real.
No one has touched one. Turned it on. Taken a photo (whether they were allowed to keep it or not.)
With movies, it's a bad sign when they don't let critics review a release in advance. It means they are hoping to quickly draw in people before the bad word of mouth spreads.
With technical products, it is exactly the same.
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I don't know where you're getting your information from. See here for someone who has checked out a prototype. Obviously not impressed by claims of a 'DSLR killer', but a prototype exists.
Also, they have released images higher than 2.8 MP:
Here are 3 20-megapixel images, clearly published on their website (scroll down to the "Download high resolution images taken by the L16 camera" section):
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Nope, more than a decade. I doubt I'll see ILCs disappear in my lifetime.
markyboy81
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Well, it takes up to a minute to generate a 52mb image so I can't imagine burst mode will be too impressive
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Who said "disappear"? It's funny how worried DSLR guys are these days. You can still buy a horse and a buggy to go with it, yes even today in 2017. They didn't "disappear".
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Thing is, if the 'Dslr' does disappear or rather, become redundant, then it'll mean that there's something worthy to replace it, in which case nobody will care will they?
You did, above.
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It's like bashing my head against a wall, it really is.
tko
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They're $1500. More expensive than a superzoom and a nice iPhone, but without the features. Try to stay focused on the subject.
Oh, you do know that you can carry tiny objects, right? There is no size implied by the word.
car·ryˈkerē/verbverb: carry; 3rd person present: carries; past tense: carried; past participle: carried; gerund or present participle: carrying1. support and move (someone or something) from one place to another.
OK, let's look at staking.
This is the camera
my guess is that it is about 9x16cm
Take a look of where the lenses are.
5x 28mm
5x 70mm
5x 150mm
Now make a print of that camera and punch a hole through the lenses and then take photos with your mobile phone through the holes keeping the camera parallel to the print but shifting your lens to the new position and crop to the center of your photos to simulate the 70mm and 150mm view.
Then stack those photos.
Let me know what happens.
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