NEW Voigtlaender FE 35 f/1.4 | 40 f/1.2 | (65 f/2.0 macro)

I'd be more interested in knowing about the stop down behaviour of this lens on an a7 series. On the 1.2 lens for example, will the camera focus while the camera is viewing at 1.2 and then close down to the required shooting aperture when the release is pressed? This enables faster, more accurate mf shooting and is the only reason I can think of that justifies a 1.2 lens on a digital camera.
 
I'd be more interested in knowing about the stop down behaviour of this lens on an a7 series. On the 1.2 lens for example, will the camera focus while the camera is viewing at 1.2 and then close down to the required shooting aperture when the release is pressed? This enables faster, more accurate mf shooting and is the only reason I can think of that justifies a 1.2 lens on a digital camera.
 
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One comment in the announcement: the electronic coupling includes FL and focus distance to enable proper IBIS compensation to automatically work. That sounds like a plus, although I wonder why focus distance plays a role - FL should be sufficient.
At least none of my Loxia lenses has a distance indication but my CV 15 Heliar III FE has it - when I focus the lens I get a distance indication in the display - with the Loxia lenses not - just double checked it.
Interesting, my CV10 does the same.
 
Voightlander is not known for quality. It is hard to believe that the same company making lenses for Zeiss.
For the older plastic consumer zoom, OK

not for their prime lenses,

they even had one of the "best must have", the 125 -2.5 Apo Lanthar macro ... they had to stop, as it competed with Zeiss lineup
 
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Look at the current portfolio of lenses available. With the exception of the not so good Sony 35 f/2.8 -
You don't know what you are talking about.

The 35mm f2.8 is an excellent lens, and it is a shame you try to bash it in order to prove only your preference on manual focus lenses -preference that I fully respect.

If you are looking for high quality, newer lenses are designed for digital, Voigtlander are fine, specially the newer versions. But not yet at the level of Sony lenses.
I for one don't care much about the 35 2.8, I have one, and gave it to my girl friend for her travel use. F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story, it's the least used 35mm I have, I rather use my SLR 35mm lenses with adapter. and I am really interested in this new Voigtlander 35 1.4 and 40 1.2 too.

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I for one don't care much about the 35 2.8, I have one, and gave it to my girl friend for her travel use. F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story, it's the least used 35mm I have, I rather use my SLR 35mm lenses with adapter. and I am really interested in this new Voigtlander 35 1.4 and 40 1.2 too.
I own the Canon 40 f/2.8 and while it is my smallest and lightest lens I hardly ever use it. The image quality is good - easily on par with bigger and heavier lenses but it is utterly boring for me to shoot with 35-40 mm at f/2.8.

I am currently using it as a camera body cap ;-)

I am really interested in the new 40 f/1.2 from Voigtlaender - the test images look extremely promising.

My Sony 50 f/1.4 is too big and heavy for travel usage but a ½ weight and ⅓ volume 40 f/1.2 could be a very good travel substitute!!

Pricing indication was given below 150 k Yen - that would translate into 1300-1400 EUR comparing their other lens price indications - I've found nothing about a lens shade still - maybe they try selling it separately again - then it would be more a 1500 EUR lens.

Nothing still about volume delivery - I hope 2017 is still manageable.
 
F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story,
I don't get it. Are you saying that maximum aperture determines whether a lens is good or not?
it's the least used 35mm I have, I rather use my SLR 35mm lenses with adapter. and I am really interested in this new Voigtlander 35 1.4 and 40 1.2 too.
 
F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story,
I don't get it. Are you saying that maximum aperture determines whether a lens is good or not?
No, max aperture alone doesn't, there are bunch other things makes a lens good lens, but I for one go for the primes MAINLY for its larger aperture. other wise all I will need is a 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8, why do I need to spend more money and to buy bunch of primes if these two can cover everything? size and weight is the last thing I concern about when it comes to lens selection. by the way I have 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 too.
 
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F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story,
I don't get it. Are you saying that maximum aperture determines whether a lens is good or not?
size and weight is the last thing I concern about when it comes to lens selection.
Thankfully others are free to have other concerns. I have a 2.8 zoom that covers 40mm, but still go back to the 40 2.8 because of its combo of small size and image quality. I liked it so much I mistakenly sold it and bought another one.

For me huge heavy zooms are OK as they give you a lot of flexibility.... but a 700g prime? Seems like a little bit of a waste
 
F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story,
I don't get it. Are you saying that maximum aperture determines whether a lens is good or not?
size and weight is the last thing I concern about when it comes to lens selection.
Thankfully others are free to have other concerns. I have a 2.8 zoom that covers 40mm, but still go back to the 40 2.8 because of its combo of small size and image quality. I liked it so much I mistakenly sold it and bought another one.

For me huge heavy zooms are OK as they give you a lot of flexibility.... but a 700g prime? Seems like a little bit of a waste
 
F2.8 prime is not what i call "excellent" lens, if that's a 1.4 then it's different story,
I don't get it. Are you saying that maximum aperture determines whether a lens is good or not?
size and weight is the last thing I concern about when it comes to lens selection.
Thankfully others are free to have other concerns. I have a 2.8 zoom that covers 40mm, but still go back to the 40 2.8 because of its combo of small size and image quality. I liked it so much I mistakenly sold it and bought another one.

For me huge heavy zooms are OK as they give you a lot of flexibility.... but a 700g prime? Seems like a little bit of a waste
I heard you loud and clear, everyone has different priority and style, I personally know friends considered A7R too big, LOL so I totally understand what you mean. and I personally keep going back to the 1-Series and sold the 1D4 and selling 1Dx for a 1DXII, for none landscape related stuffs, and bought a D500+ vertical grip after trying the A6500, so everyone is different. and good we have choice for everyone these days.
 
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I heard you loud and clear, everyone has different priority and style, I personally know friends considered A7R too big, LOL so I totally understand what you mean. and I personally keep going back to the 1-Series and sold the 1D4 and selling 1Dx for a 1DXII, for none landscape related stuffs, and bought a D500+ vertical grip after trying the A6500, so everyone is different. and good we have choice for everyone these days.
We only have choices recently - until three years ago there was not a single FF small body system cameras available!

The reason we can discuss different concepts has the root cause in Sony's decision to enter this market segment.

Ever since I am looking for small and lightweight optical superior solutions for lean traveling - why else would someone trade in small little knobs, less durability and many other things that are best case 2nd best on the Sony A7 family ;-)

For me the Sony A7 series makes most sense when you buy compact and optically good lenses.

My current travel kit consists of:
  • Voigtlaender 15 mm f/4.5 Heliar III FE
  • Carl-Zeiss Loxia 21 mm f/2.8 Distagon
  • Carl-Zeiss Loxia 35 f/2.0 Biogon (this once is very likely to be replaced by the 40 f/1.2 from Voigtlaender)
  • Leica 135 mm f/3.4 APO-Telyt-M (maybe a Lanthar 125 with full EXIF mint rival this lens)
My other lenses are for the situations where weight and size hardly matter. But this is not the reason why I bought into the A7RM2 system.

The reason why I bought the A7RM2 is because of the lenses for lean traveling. (namely CV 15 and Loxia 21)

edit: Early indications are it is some 100 g lighter compare to the existing 35 f/1.2 II and hs a new optical calculation.

In other words potentially below 400 g and smaller - nice!!!

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Interesting link the last one, the shots at f2.8 show the distinct shape of the aperture, something to consider.
when you focus near to MFD and use f/2.8 - yes. That's also the reason why we have these fantastic sun stars with the Voigtlaender lenses - an effect that is driven by the shape of the aperture - in case it were round we would not get sunstars at all.

1st of all this is still a prototype and 2ndly every lens has to be understood and used with it's characteristics in mind.

E.g. I use my 50 f/1.4 almost purely at f/1.6 because then the bokeh is best.
 
Now the 65/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar got announced in Japan for August 10th release. MRSP is 120000 yen without tax and the actual street price seems to be aroud 110000 yen including tax.

I guess based on that the U.S. price could be around $1000 and release date close to August 10th.


 
Now the 65/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar got announced in Japan for August 10th release. MRSP is 120000 yen without tax and the actual street price seems to be aroud 110000 yen including tax.

I guess based on that the U.S. price could be around $1000 and release date close to August 10th.


thx for the info - the 40 f/1.2 would be more my point of interest though - I've read this will come out maybe this year - not so good news :-/
 
Now the 65/2 Macro Apo-Lanthar got announced in Japan for August 10th release. MRSP is 120000 yen without tax and the actual street price seems to be aroud 110000 yen including tax.

I guess based on that the U.S. price could be around $1000 and release date close to August 10th.
thx for the info - the 40 f/1.2 would be more my point of interest though - I've read this will come out maybe this year - not so good news :-/
 

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