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Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?
Depends a lot on what type of photography you do. If you do a lot of tripod mounted photography you really won't need IS. It also depends on whether the extra reach matters to you, or whether you need the f/2.8 aperture on the 24-70.
Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
Completely different topic, I suggest asking on the Mobile Photography Talk forum.
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
If you have the budget then get the 24-70/2.8L II. It's a superior lens to the 24-105/4L. Forget about IS. It's great to have but I'd always pock the faster aperture over IS.

If you get the 24-105 then make sure you get the new version II.
 
I did not see much difference in image quality when I micro adjusted both Canon's 24-70II and the older version of the 24-105 IS.

If you are only going to have one of the lenses you mention for a while, I'd give the advantage to the one with the larger focal range.

(I don't even know where my cell phone is half the time.) :-)
 
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I use the 24-70/2.8L most of the time so the mk II is better. If size/weight is not a big issue go with it
 
Nice uncle.

What do you photograph? Outdoor stuff go for the 24-105, indoor stuff try the 24-70.

As for cell phones, do you prefer iOS or android?
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
go for the better lens. mark 4 with the 24-70 f/2.8L II - wonderful combo. top shelf. with the 24-105, not so wonderful.
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
Right...... why fart around with a minor zoom when B&H has a 1200mm your uncle can buy for you.
 
I have the 24-105 original version and have on occasion contemplated getting the 24-70 II, but I have reached the conclusion that, for my purposes (mostly travel photography), the tiniest increase in image quality and the slightly wider maximum aperture aren't worth the extra weight, extra cost, loss of IS and loss of reach. The new Mk II version of the 24-105 is pretty similar to the original in terms of image quality, but its IS is a newer generation and a little more effective. If you're new to this game I doubt whether you'd spot any difference in image quality between the two lenses.

The 24-105 is still a professional lens, after all, and no slouch. This was taken on a 5D III with my 24-105. In his eyes I can see what I was wearing on the day!




100% crop
 
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May we assume that your uncle is not a photographer and did not realize that the camera could come without the lens. Did you tell us your budget? You also will really need a flash.

Congrats on a great camera

hope you can get a complete kit up and running

whvick
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
They are both great lenses (the 24-70 II by most measurements is better) I don't think you need IS for 24-70 unless you shoot video. Full frames can do crazy high ISO without noise which negates the needs. Plus I have a steady hand and shoot moving targets (which IS doesn't help with).

So if you are buying one lens and want best quality get the 24-70. Having said that I would get a white box (grey market) 24-105 (the old one not the new one) and with the money you save pick up a prime or two.
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
For photography, IS doesn't benefit me a whole lot. I like to shoot with faster shutter speeds and get sharp photos. But it depends on what kinda shooter you are. I like 1:1 sharpness.

For video, IS does benefit me, but you can get the 24-105 later for IS. However most of my video work is also done on a tripod so even then it doesn't come into play much.

IS only affects you shaking, it doesn't affect getting a sharp photo of someone. It can affect stationary objects as those objects don't move. However, a person moves. Even if it's just a set up portrait they will move.

So, you have to shoot at a faster shutter speed to get it nice and sharp. Especially at 30 megapixels if you're going 1:1 on native 30 megapixels.

I use the iPhone 7 Plus 256GB Matte Black. The screen works well with the wifi app, when I record videos of myself I focus on myself through my phone. The app works very good, IMO a large screen smart phone is even better than an articulating screen. You can even attach your iPhone to the tripod mount of needed.

Sigma is coming out with a 24-70 ART series 2.8 with IS. That probably will end up being the sharpest 2.8 out there and it will have IS. If it's not as sharp as the Canon I'm willing to bet it comes close.

I use the Canon, and on other systems I would be a prime person, I care lot about sharpness and details, as well as micro contrast. The canon 24-70 2.8 ii is incredibly sharp.

The 24-105 F/4 is not that sharp, especially if you're gonna crop or judge your pictures at 1:1.

The only reason I keep the 24-105 F/4 is for handheld video. IN that case, it is sharp, because 4k video is only 8 megapixels, 1080p video is only like 2 megapixels, so it can resolve that easily and you won't really notice a difference between the two other than one goes to 2.8 and the other goes to F/4.

Keep in mind you can blow the background out more at 105 F/4 than at 70 2.8. It's not technically a shallower depth of field, but because you're zoomed in the background compresses.

Some people won't like that I said it compresses, different people like to use different terms for what it does.
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
It depends what you want to shoot, but all else being equal I'd get the 24-105 as 70mm really doesn't get you that close to stuff and the IS is worth more than a stop in low light and essential for hand-held video.
 
Hello guys I am new to the Forum.

My uncle gave me Canon 5D mark IV for my birthday.Unfortunately he bought it Body Only.I am in a delima to choose between EF 24-105mm f4L IS or EF 24-70mm f2.8L ii.My complaint for the latter is that is does not features an IS system. Does th IS matter or not for the starters?

Also I have to buy a new smartphone. Should I buy the Apple iPhone 7 plus 128GB Jet Black or Samsung Galaxy S7 edge 128GB Pearl Black?
If you have the budget then get the 24-70/2.8L II. It's a superior lens to the 24-105/4L. Forget about IS. It's great to have but I'd always pock the faster aperture over IS.
I have the 16-35 f4 IS and would really like the new f2.8 III version, but I just couldn't shoot a lot of indoor stuff without the IS. For example I was getting a lot of keepers at 1/5 and 1/6 in a museum and I was at pretty high ISO due to the low light. That's with a 5Dsr so I'd probably need 1/25 to 1/50 (16-35) without IS, which would need crazy ISO even after allowing for the extra stop. Also I need IS if I want to shoot any hand-held video. Hence I'm sticking with the f4 IS, although I'm not its biggest fan I just need it to get some shots.
If you get the 24-105 then make sure you get the new version II.
I have the mk 1 and I think it's great, although if money allows I'd agree the mk 11 is the way to go (the sharpness isn't really different, but IS, flare, etc. are improved).
 

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