Some boxing fanboys here?

aokhrimers · Jan 4, 2017

Hey is some boxing sport photographers here?

Do you enjoy shooting boxing matches as I do. Here is one shot that I took Ukrainian boxing team SPARTA at Kiev.

Continue, this thread by posting boxing shots.

Any questions and comments related to sport photography are more then welcome.

WBR

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sssesq · Jan 4, 2017

Here are a couple from a while back. Bad light as is usually the case.

aokhrimers · Jan 4, 2017

Yeh, had to agree.

Nice boxing, amateur tournament.

Did you find out that D5 works better for low light then d4s?

sssesq · Jan 4, 2017

Ability to focus in almost pitch black with the D5 is the biggest difference, but focus tracking is also worth mention. The D5 will handle impossible lighting. Ya, these are not museum quality, but when you have to get the shot or nothing, it can work. ISO 20000

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theJrod · Jan 4, 2017

Can you share some exif data of your shots?

I'm going to be shooting my first MMA match soon, and I've been reading up on boxing/fighting photography to get some tips.

aokhrimers · Jan 5, 2017

All is pretty easy in MMA\boxing.

Get closer to net use 70-200\2.8. And you can nail something like that https://www.facebook.com/pg/OkEventPhoto/photos/?tab=album&album_id=624891087683851

Shot mostly on 70-200\2.8 but in some cases I was switching to 24-120\4 with ISO around 3200 and shutter speed around 640-1000 depending on lighting.

I have passes to enter any event in Ukraine so for me getting close to cage is not problem, but if you are not close to cage you will be not able to get a decent shot.

Hope that helps

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theJrod · Jan 5, 2017

aokhrimers said:
All is pretty easy in MMA\boxing.

Get closer to net use 70-200\2.8. And you can nail something like that https://www.facebook.com/pg/OkEventPhoto/photos/?tab=album&album_id=624891087683851

Shot mostly on 70-200\2.8 but in some cases I was switching to 24-120\4 with ISO around 3200 and shutter speed around 640-1000 depending on lighting.

I have passes to enter any event in Ukraine so for me getting close to cage is not problem, but if you are not close to cage you will be not able to get a decent shot.

Hope that helps

WBR

Andrey Okhrimets

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You must have decent lighting to get 640-1000 shutter speeds and only iso 3200.

I'll be cage-side with a ladder to shoot above the net. I'll have a 24-120/4, 70-200/4, 50/1.8 & 85/1.8 in my bag - sounds like the 24-120 will be the workhorse, but if lighting is bad I'll have to switch to the primes. I don't mind going up to ISO 12800 if I have to, but was hoping to get away with shutter speeds in the 320-500 range - I'll have to experiment a bit in the opening fights.

sssesq · Jan 5, 2017

1/320 is too slow for anything except wide angle across the cage and in clinches.

You R 1 lucky shooter to be above the cage, but don't forget to go low as you should be able to place your lens on the cage and there won't be a lot of cage wire in the center of the frame where the action is. Just like softball or baseball behind the plate. Here is on from behind the plate.

aokhrimers · Jan 6, 2017

sssesq said:
1/320 is too slow for anything except wide angle across the cage and in clinches.

You R 1 lucky shooter to be above the cage, but don't forget to go low as you should be able to place your lens on the cage and there won't be a lot of cage wire in the center of the frame where the action is. Just like softball or baseball behind the plate. Here is on from behind the plate.

Yeh, something below 1\640 is too slow, also based on my 5+ years with MMA I suggest use 70-200\4 or 24-120 as main lenses, and I find myself using 24-120\4 much more, then anything else as it allows to capture wide variety of shots. Primes are fixed, when you know action, and 50\1.8 just in the middle of nowhere plus AF of this lens is just terrible in low light.

I sold 24-70\2.8 in favour of 24-120\4 and just loving it. But for variety I shot also on 70-200\2.8 or 14-24 to show whole venue.

Lighting usually is not that bad as you may think about it.

So ISO 3200 with small underexposure works like a charm.

osv · Jan 6, 2017

sssesq said:
Ability to focus in almost pitch black with the D5 is the biggest difference, but focus tracking is also worth mention. The D5 will handle impossible lighting. Ya, these are not museum quality, but when you have to get the shot or nothing, it can work. ISO 20000

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cool pics, but not all of it is an "or nothing" situation.

when they are anchored on the ground, the distance to the camera is pretty stationary... i could shoot that, or similar mma situations, with a manual focus lens on my a7r, and get much better pq than what a d5 can deliver.

af becomes necessary when the subject is rapidly moving around, and the action isn't going to happen in a preset plane of focus area.

aokhrimers · Jan 6, 2017

What you just told means that you do not shoot sport a lot

in low lighting scenario, where subject is moving even 1-2 inches back and forwards AF and zoom versatility, are must.

Because what you do you if subject coming closer and not fitting frame, just rotate zoom ring while having AF on.

Even if subject is anchored if can move next 10 miliseconds, and AF will allow you capture that of course if understand that sport, and press shutter before action.

So petentially it may workout, in reality all pro`s use zooms, with AF. Or long lenses like 400mm when shooting far far from a distance and where it much benefitial to have open aperture for a better shot.

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osv · Jan 6, 2017

aokhrimers said:
What you just told means that you do not shoot sport a lot

no, it means that you don't know how to use manual focus

aokhrimers said:
in low lighting scenario, where subject is moving even 1-2 inches back and forwards AF and zoom versatility, are must.

did you look at his pics? it's wrestling, where the subjects are laying down on a mat.

i wrestled in high school for three years, i know quite a bit about it.

i shot these pics with manual focus, so don't tell us that it can't be done... the people in these photos are moving far faster than mma:

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sportmaster · Jan 7, 2017

aokhrimers said:
All is pretty easy in MMA\boxing.

Get closer to net use 70-200\2.8. And you can nail something like that https://www.facebook.com/pg/OkEventPhoto/photos/?tab=album&album_id=624891087683851

Shot mostly on 70-200\2.8 but in some cases I was switching to 24-120\4 with ISO around 3200 and shutter speed around 640-1000 depending on lighting.

I have passes to enter any event in Ukraine so for me getting close to cage is not problem, but if you are not close to cage you will be not able to get a decent shot.

Hope that helps

WBR

Andrey Okhrimets

https://www.facebook.com/OkEventPhoto/

Sports Club Minamoto still owes me $6K for MMA fights in Kiev in 1998. Collect and I will give you half.

aokhrimers · Jan 7, 2017

Unfortunately there is no such club, and I am not even aware about it existence

aokhrimers · Jan 7, 2017

I will argue about that, it is possible manually shot some images, and even some of them get in focus. As I managed to use 500mm manual reflector lens. But how many of those you can get identically in focus?

That is why autofocus is important for predictability. Reggarding MMA it is still nicer to have autofocus, then manually hunt for focus, action is not happening in single point as I already told you.

aokhrimers · Jan 7, 2017

Lets put subject to original theme of boxing

sportmaster · Jan 7, 2017

They hosted and recruited fighters for the 1998 "World Super Challenge" in Kiev.

First person to die in a MMA event died at that show.

aokhrimers · Jan 8, 2017

That is kind of sad, unfortunately at that time I was not even thinking about photography.

Why they do own you some money?

sportmaster · Jan 11, 2017

I manage fighters. Had a fighter who fought there.

aokhrimers · Jan 13, 2017

This is just inappropriate.

Unfortunately that times where dark times for USSR overall.

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