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300D: Canon Canada is a ripoff as usual

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Amen, bro. I for one am sick of this. I could essentially buy a return ticket to Vegas for the weekend, stay in a hotel, buy a digital Rebel, and still come out ahead over what Canon Canada is charging. Other Canon cameras like the G5 are priced only slightly above the exchange rate. So why are we getting screwed on digital SLRs?

My only guess is economies of scale. Maybe they don't sell enough digital SLRs up here to drive their costs down? Whatever the reason, I still won't buy one in Canada.
 
Peter G said:
Actually that is not true and most of Canons consumer digicam line
has been priced exactly as it should be, some models occaisonally
cheaper in Canada. Many cars are also cheaper in Canada.
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In Canada, the new A80 consumer digicam has a "suggested list price" of CDN$750 ( http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=332&arc=0 ) compared to a "suggested retail price" of US$499 ( http://www.usa.canon.com/templatedata/pressrelease/20030820_powershot_a80.html ). This 1.5 multiplier is much more in line with the actual exchange rate (1.40 as of today).
Peter G said:
This is a pure and simple case of the addtional greed factor...
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It certainly appears that way.

Tony
 
so there is -no- duty on any camera equipment ordered from the US?

if that's the case... screw you canon canada, im gona whore it up with the US guys.
ferrule said:
If the warranty thing is cool then there's no reason to buy in
Canada. I'll check with the retailer before pulling the trigger on
the warranty terms.

Ian
lemz said:
as far as i know the warranty is like that USA/CA warranty good in
the country of issue... USA AND** CA good in both... i bought
28-135USM in B&H while in NYC and my warranty says US and Canada...
so just watch out for that...

i think B&H does sell cameras with USA and Canadian warranty... can
anyone confirm that?
ferrule said:
So what are my ramifications if I bring over a 10D or 300D? Will
customs request I pay Duty and Tax (if I declare it)?

Also how is warranty handled? I have heard that a Canon USA camera
will need to be warrantied with Canon USA, but has anyone tried?

Thanks, Ian
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I'm confused with this one??? The last thing I do is hate the US.
(You've never been to Disneyland or Las Vegas.)

If I ship an item to the USA they pay no taxes or duties.
Ship to me and I pay GST/PST and Brokerage fees of $39 if it's
UPS or FedEx Ground. I get screwed by the Canadian Gov if I buy

from any other Country. B&H with 2 day UPS Express service, the only way to go. Way cheaper than anyplace in good old Canada EH!
Troponin said:
(grin) oops, (big grin)
lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.

I was going to sneak 10D from the states and now that I'll be
getting a 300D (jumping from p&s) i was hoping to support local
business... but, nooooo...

This is pretty much a big F#CK YOU from Canon to all canadians...
and i suspect to most other countries around the world as well...

uggggh, this just makes me sooo madd!
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jesus_freak said:
My only guess is economies of scale. Maybe they don't sell enough
digital SLRs up here to drive their costs down? Whatever the
reason, I still won't buy one in Canada.
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well, obviously... of course they dont sell enough... with prices like that they arent exactly a steal... that's why you can most of the time go to henrys or other local shops and get a 10d without even calling ahead while it's sold out most places in the states...

any first year economy student, or for that matter any person in the right state of mind knows that one way to increase sales is to lower the price...
 
no duty... just the regular sales taxes... which are naturaly paid by consumers...

the funny thing is that all local merchants know it... i've spoken to quite a few and all authorized dealers say that they are pretty much screwed by canon too because they wont let them lower the price.
beeng said:
if that's the case... screw you canon canada, im gona whore it up
with the US guys.
ferrule said:
If the warranty thing is cool then there's no reason to buy in
Canada. I'll check with the retailer before pulling the trigger on
the warranty terms.

Ian
lemz said:
as far as i know the warranty is like that USA/CA warranty good in
the country of issue... USA AND** CA good in both... i bought
28-135USM in B&H while in NYC and my warranty says US and Canada...
so just watch out for that...

i think B&H does sell cameras with USA and Canadian warranty... can
anyone confirm that?
ferrule said:
So what are my ramifications if I bring over a 10D or 300D? Will
customs request I pay Duty and Tax (if I declare it)?

Also how is warranty handled? I have heard that a Canon USA camera
will need to be warrantied with Canon USA, but has anyone tried?

Thanks, Ian
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we love you canon Canada.
lemz said:
the funny thing is that all local merchants know it... i've spoken
to quite a few and all authorized dealers say that they are pretty
much screwed by canon too because they wont let them lower the
price.
beeng said:
if that's the case... screw you canon canada, im gona whore it up
with the US guys.
ferrule said:
If the warranty thing is cool then there's no reason to buy in
Canada. I'll check with the retailer before pulling the trigger on
the warranty terms.

Ian
lemz said:
as far as i know the warranty is like that USA/CA warranty good in
the country of issue... USA AND** CA good in both... i bought
28-135USM in B&H while in NYC and my warranty says US and Canada...
so just watch out for that...

i think B&H does sell cameras with USA and Canadian warranty... can
anyone confirm that?
ferrule said:
So what are my ramifications if I bring over a 10D or 300D? Will
customs request I pay Duty and Tax (if I declare it)?

Also how is warranty handled? I have heard that a Canon USA camera
will need to be warrantied with Canon USA, but has anyone tried?

Thanks, Ian
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Jeff_C said:
I totally agree, I guess I will be buying one next time I'm in NY.
Shame on you Canon Canada!!!
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I couldn't believe it too when I saw the price difference. If someone wants to pay $2,000 Cdn. go ahead. If I get one it'll be from the US either via online ordering or just drive across the border. No duty on digital cameras.
Jeff_C said:
emz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.

I was going to sneak 10D from the states and now that I'll be
getting a 300D (jumping from p&s) i was hoping to support local
business... but, nooooo...

This is pretty much a big F#CK YOU from Canon to all canadians...
and i suspect to most other countries around the world as well...

uggggh, this just makes me sooo madd!
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Bah Import power, so far i've imported 1 Dvd player, 1 Amplifier and some other electronic stuff from USA because they were charging wayy too much.

999.99$CAN at the current exchange rate is 1400$CAN add shipping .. max 100$CAN... 1500$ + taxes at the Duty and voila! you saved more than 500$
jesus_freak said:
Amen, bro. I for one am sick of this. I could essentially buy a
return ticket to Vegas for the weekend, stay in a hotel, buy a
digital Rebel, and still come out ahead over what Canon Canada is
charging. Other Canon cameras like the G5 are priced only slightly
above the exchange rate. So why are we getting screwed on digital
SLRs?

My only guess is economies of scale. Maybe they don't sell enough
digital SLRs up here to drive their costs down? Whatever the
reason, I still won't buy one in Canada.
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lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.
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Rip off is the right word! On Ron Galbraith's site he has the 300D listed at 899.00 USD. To find the exact exchange rate USD TO CDN, I went to XE.com - Currency Converter and entered 899.00 USD and got 1261.10 CDN as of today. If you really want a 300D take a short vacation south of the border and like the man from ING Direct says "And Save Your Money!"

Dan

Knowledge is freedom.
 
I hardly buy anything photographic related in Canada anymore (only film), because the price difference is ridiculous. I saved $350.00 buying my scanner in the states compared to local stores; that was including tax and shipping!!!! And don't get me started on lenses, they are at least 2/3 the price in the US compared to Canada. I just bought a brand m=new 28-135 from a New York store on Ebay for about $650.00 with tax and shipping, while here they retail for about $799.00 before tax....
Dan54 said:
lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.
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Rip off is the right word! On Ron Galbraith's site he has the 300D
listed at 899.00 USD. To find the exact exchange rate USD TO CDN, I
went to XE.com - Currency Converter and entered 899.00 USD and got
1261.10 CDN as of today. If you really want a 300D take a short
vacation south of the border and like the man from ING Direct says
"And Save Your Money!"

Dan

Knowledge is freedom.
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i think monopoly money is actually trading a tad higher today.
lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.

I was going to sneak 10D from the states and now that I'll be
getting a 300D (jumping from p&s) i was hoping to support local
business... but, nooooo...

This is pretty much a big F#CK YOU from Canon to all canadians...
and i suspect to most other countries around the world as well...

uggggh, this just makes me sooo madd!
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As usual, the major retailers like Henry's and Vistek will charge full MSRP. No wonder Canadians don't put up with this sh!t and just import.
lemz said:
if you say so, i'm really curious to see then what will be the
street price at henrys/downtown camera and vistek... obvious it'll
be the same price everywhere LOL
Peter G said:
lemz said:
it did?? omg... then it's even worse... that means the price hasnt
dropped a cent...
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I have been following this closely for a couple of years and this
is pretty typical of Canon. In Canada the prices only seem to drop
when a replacement is ready.
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I really think that this thred should be emailed to Canon Canada. Might as well let them know where their business is going.
Tom Allison said:
Dan54 said:
lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.
Click to expand...
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Rip off is the right word! On Ron Galbraith's site he has the 300D
listed at 899.00 USD. To find the exact exchange rate USD TO CDN, I
went to XE.com - Currency Converter and entered 899.00 USD and got
1261.10 CDN as of today. If you really want a 300D take a short
vacation south of the border and like the man from ING Direct says
"And Save Your Money!"

Dan

Knowledge is freedom.
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If a man is alone in the forest arguing his point of view and there
are no women around, is he still wrong?
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lemz said:
http://www.canon.ca/english/index-pressrelease.asp?lng=en&cat=1&id=333&arc=0

listed for $2000 CAD?? I'm sorry... 2-1 exchange rate?? ahem... one
really does have to a brainless monkey to do that... and of course
all local shops will be only happy selling it for this amount.

I was going to sneak 10D from the states and now that I'll be
getting a 300D (jumping from p&s) i was hoping to support local
business... but, nooooo...

This is pretty much a big F#CK YOU from Canon to all canadians...
and i suspect to most other countries around the world as well...

uggggh, this just makes me sooo madd!
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lemz,

The local dealer here in SW Ontario has told me the 300D would sell at about 1500 CAD. It's still 2499 CAD for the 10D. Maybe you could check Vistek's and Henrys websites later on. Toronto prices seem lowest in Ontario. We seem to pay more than double the US dollar price in Canada.
Something's very wrong.
David W.
 
I bought my 10D in the States. I asked Canon Canada about the warranty and was told that they would honor the warranty of my camera and lenses in Canada. I registered the camera on Canon Canada's website without any trouble.
ferrule said:
Also how is warranty handled? I have heard that a Canon USA camera
will need to be warrantied with Canon USA, but has anyone tried?

Thanks, Ian
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jesus_freak said:
My only guess is economies of scale. Maybe they don't sell enough
digital SLRs up here to drive their costs down? Whatever the
reason, I still won't buy one in Canada.
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What economies of scale? Since (I assume) all of these cameras are made in the same plant (in Japan?), the manufacturing costs for a single unit should be the same wherever you buy it in the world.

That leaves per unit marketing (e.g. magazine ads) and support (e.g. repairs under warranty) costs. Are these really $500-$600 more per camera, compared to the United States? (To be honest, I don't really know, but this seems extreme.)

I wonder if Canon Canada's reasoning is something like this: As several people have suggested in these forums, $1000 is the "magic" price point. If you can get below this number, you're likely to sell lots of units; above this, you'll have to depend on a relatively "well-off" customer base. Assuming a straight rate of exchange, a camera which sells for $1000 in the US would have to sell for $1400 or so in Canada, putting the price well above the "magic" number. Since all that's left for a target market is affluent Canadians, who (by definition) can probably afford a $2000 camera, why not charge them as much as possible? :-)

Tony
 
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