M5 : Question about HDR & Night Scene modes

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Hello,

I noticed that when in HDR mode or Handeld Night Scene mode, the program chooses f5 or f5.6 aperture even though I have the 22f2 mounted.

I find that very strange since, for the HDR mode, I end up with non hand holdable shutter speeds and very high ISO for Handeld Night Scene...

Why is the camera not using f2 to get faster shutter speeds or lower ISO?

Any idea?
 
Hello,

I noticed that when in HDR mode or Handeld Night Scene mode, the program chooses f5 or f5.6 aperture even though I have the 22f2 mounted.

I find that very strange since, for the HDR mode, I end up with non hand holdable shutter speeds and very high ISO for Handeld Night Scene...

Why is the camera not using f2 to get faster shutter speeds or lower ISO?

Any idea?
When I select HDR it uses the aperture I set. So if I selected f2, it uses f2 and shows the resulting picture as being f2.

When I select Handheld Night Scene it defaults to f5.6 and you cannot change it, and exposure compensation appears to make no difference either.

Remember these modes are simply auto-bracketing and combining the images in-camera.

Personally I prefer to use RAW and AEB and do the merging myself. I am not over impressed with Canon's in-camera merging.

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Hello,

I noticed that when in HDR mode or Handeld Night Scene mode, the program chooses f5 or f5.6 aperture even though I have the 22f2 mounted.

I find that very strange since, for the HDR mode, I end up with non hand holdable shutter speeds and very high ISO for Handeld Night Scene...

Why is the camera not using f2 to get faster shutter speeds or lower ISO?

Any idea?
When I select HDR it uses the aperture I set. So if I selected f2, it uses f2 and shows the resulting picture as being f2.
I think we are talking about 2 different modes here.

You are talking about the HDR Backlight Control mode which indeed will use the max aperture (can't be controlled though unless I missed something).

I was talking about the HDR setting that can be accessed via the Creative Filters mode.
When I select Handheld Night Scene it defaults to f5.6 and you cannot change it, and exposure compensation appears to make no difference either.

Remember these modes are simply auto-bracketing and combining the images in-camera.

Personally I prefer to use RAW and AEB and do the merging myself. I am not over impressed with Canon's in-camera merging.
 
Hello,

I noticed that when in HDR mode or Handeld Night Scene mode, the program chooses f5 or f5.6 aperture even though I have the 22f2 mounted.

I find that very strange since, for the HDR mode, I end up with non hand holdable shutter speeds and very high ISO for Handeld Night Scene...

Why is the camera not using f2 to get faster shutter speeds or lower ISO?

Any idea?
When I select HDR it uses the aperture I set. So if I selected f2, it uses f2 and shows the resulting picture as being f2.
I think we are talking about 2 different modes here.

You are talking about the HDR Backlight Control mode which indeed will use the max aperture (can't be controlled though unless I missed something).
I set the aperture first in AV.

Then switched to HDR BC.

I was using my 50mm f1.8 so the aperture I selected of f2 was used.
 
Hello,

I noticed that when in HDR mode or Handeld Night Scene mode, the program chooses f5 or f5.6 aperture even though I have the 22f2 mounted.

I find that very strange since, for the HDR mode, I end up with non hand holdable shutter speeds and very high ISO for Handeld Night Scene...

Why is the camera not using f2 to get faster shutter speeds or lower ISO?

Any idea?
I've found HHNS mode to be quite effective on my other cameras (does great at reducing noise). But alas you are beholden to its "full-auto" idiosyncrasies.

If you still want access to this very powerful noise reduction tool, but wish for more control, then go into the menu and select Multi Shot Noise Reduction. You still only get Jpegs, but you can set most other exposure parameters.

Happy shooting!

R2
 
I've found HHNS mode to be quite effective on my other cameras (does great at reducing noise). But alas you are beholden to its "full-auto" idiosyncrasies.

If you still want access to this very powerful noise reduction tool, but wish for more control, then go into the menu and select Multi Shot Noise Reduction. You still only get Jpegs, but you can set most other exposure parameters.

Happy shooting!

R2
 
I've found HHNS mode to be quite effective on my other cameras (does great at reducing noise). But alas you are beholden to its "full-auto" idiosyncrasies.

If you still want access to this very powerful noise reduction tool, but wish for more control, then go into the menu and select Multi Shot Noise Reduction. You still only get Jpegs, but you can set most other exposure parameters.

Happy shooting!

R2

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MSNR is greyed out on my menu - what do I need to set elsewhere to enable it? [I tried disabling raw but that made no difference)

Alan
Mine was greyed out too, but was enabled once I disabled RAW. I have most other processing features disabled too, so it might be one of those, or maybe it's has something to do with the noise reduction settings. I don't have my camera with me, so I can't be of more help right now unfortunately (darn work always gettin' in the way of fun!!!).

Hope you can get it figured out quick,

R2

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