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I have been using the D810 for over 2 years and i absolutely love the sharpness and image quality of the camera,It is also one of the best rated camera on DXO camera website.I was hoping to replace my D810 with the new Sony A99 ii but lack of good quality of lens i am backing off.I am also waiting to hear about the successor of the D810 with wifi,Gps,touch screen and also new focusing system.

Is there any chance of Nikon announcing the camera anytime soon ?
 
How patient are you?

Sometimes Nikon is slow to very slow to do things you or I might like, and sometimes surprise us with products like the 200-500.

Nikon is 100 years old in 2017 - I think July.

Whether Nikon had a deliberately lack-lustre Photokina holding back announcements until 2017 remains to be seen.

"5 year" anniversary products have ranged from the F6, to (all in one go) the D3, 14-24 and 24-70.

The conundrum is that a D810 bought now will be no worse if a replacement is introduced in the summer, and a lot cheaper now than a replacement (whenever it comes) will be when launched.

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Sometimes buying if you could call it old technology isn't all bad, the 810 is a great camera and at a good price, and no possible problems that a new model could spring up. But it's up to you.
 
You need to factor in the photos you will take with the current camera while waiting for the new one. Those missed photos have a value

If you can manage to wait wait.

I'm not sure how much use WiFI will be.
 
I have been using the D810 for over 2 years and i absolutely love the sharpness and image quality of the camera,It is also one of the best rated camera on DXO camera website.

Forgive this question then: why the hurry to change? Why the brief flirtation with Sony? It cannot be size and weight if you are now looking to Nikon again.

No one knows what Nikon are going to produce; after the last few years I'd be happier with buying the last of the old model not the first of the new; nothing in the pipeline looks to be likely to make a huge difference to the photos people will take. Is the thing that attracts you the camera or the images it can produce?

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Of course, I don't have any inside knowledge of Nikon plan but here are some speculations for the fun of closing this 2016 and looking into 2017:

- D820: a 50+ Mp sensor inside the D500 body with the CAM20K AF for Nikon to compete with the high resolution market that now includes the new medium format players

- D780: as the D810 is retired from production, the body platform of the D760 picks up the 36Mp slot while retaining the CAM3500 AF- basically a D810 in the smaller D760 body.

- DF2: anniversary retro design with ergonomic improvements from the DF. This model would get the 36Mp sensor also, as well as the better CAM3500 AF module.

- D620: taking over the D750 position, retaining the 24Mp sensor, but getting the better CAM-3500 AF.

- D5X may be announced in 2017 for delivery in 2018 with a 60Mp to claim the top resolution in FF land and a D5S also in 2018 with improvements to the present 20.9 Mp sensor.

- D900: late 2017, with the present 20.9Mp sensor inside a D500-like platform, the way the D700 was to the D3.

A busy enough plan for Nikon? ... nice to speculate but I think Nikon will only do half of this in the next 12 months. Cheers and Happy New Year to everybody.
 
so we can decide if it's a newer camera that you need. It could be that spending more time using your existing camera makes the most sense.
 
"It could be that spending more time using your existing camera makes the most sense"

With modern kit that is almost always the case. It has probably been true since about 2010 for DSLRs and a couple of years later for mirrorless.
 
I did say almost always. I suspect my photographic aspirations have not moved on with technology!
 
a_c_skinner said:
I have been using the D810 for over 2 years and i absolutely love the sharpness and image quality of the camera,It is also one of the best rated camera on DXO camera website.

Forgive this question then: why the hurry to change?
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Was wondering about the same thing...
 
Escaping said:
Of course, I don't have any inside knowledge of Nikon plan but here are some speculations for the fun of closing this 2016 and looking into 2017:

- D820: a 50+ Mp sensor inside the D500 body with the CAM20K AF for Nikon to compete with the high resolution market that now includes the new medium format players

- D780: as the D810 is retired from production, the body platform of the D760 picks up the 36Mp slot while retaining the CAM3500 AF- basically a D810 in the smaller D760 body.

- DF2: anniversary retro design with ergonomic improvements from the DF. This model would get the 36Mp sensor also, as well as the better CAM3500 AF module.

- D620: taking over the D750 position, retaining the 24Mp sensor, but getting the better CAM-3500 AF.

- D5X may be announced in 2017 for delivery in 2018 with a 60Mp to claim the top resolution in FF land and a D5S also in 2018 with improvements to the present 20.9 Mp sensor.

- D900: late 2017, with the present 20.9Mp sensor inside a D500-like platform, the way the D700 was to the D3.

A busy enough plan for Nikon? ... nice to speculate but I think Nikon will only do half of this in the next 12 months. Cheers and Happy New Year to everybody.
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Escaping said:
Of course, I don't have any inside knowledge of Nikon plan but here are some speculations for the fun of closing this 2016 and looking into 2017:

- D820: a 50+ Mp sensor inside the D500 body with the CAM20K AF for Nikon to compete with the high resolution market that now includes the new medium format players

- D780: as the D810 is retired from production, the body platform of the D760 picks up the 36Mp slot while retaining the CAM3500 AF- basically a D810 in the smaller D760 body.
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The D500 body is essentially the D750 body, just some different types of switches/wheels on it. So, I suspect you're right, but I don't think Nikon will go 50+, I think they'll use the 42MP BSI sensor from the A7RII. Two reasons, one - it is a fantastic sensor, probably overall the nest made, second, generally Nikon only introduces one new Sony sources sensor and one of its own over a product cycle, and it's already used that R&D budget with the D5 and a sony special for the D500, so I expect the rest of the range is off-the-shelf Sony. I think the BSI capability will more than make up for the slight deficit in resolution compared to the Canon, and it will likely be a faster camera, too.

Whether they stay at 24MP or make the jump to 36 for the next step down is interesting. Not sure what they do.
Escaping said:
- DF2: anniversary retro design with ergonomic improvements from the DF. This model would get the 36Mp sensor also, as well as the better CAM3500 AF module.
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Can't see it, I think the DF was a one off. If they are doing an anniversary special, it's more likely to be an FF mirrorless, with a short variant of the electronic diaphragm/AF-S version of the F mount (with simple adapter, like the Canon EOS-M mount, probably in the box) posing as a revived Nikon S series
Escaping said:
- D620: taking over the D750 position, retaining the 24Mp sensor, but getting the better CAM-3500 AF.
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I'm betting they'll pass on that. I reckon that the D750 was the planned D620, the marketing department had a last minute wheeze of branding it as a new series. The range looks too crowded as it is.
Escaping said:
- D5X may be announced in 2017 for delivery in 2018 with a 60Mp to claim the top resolution in FF land and a D5S also in 2018 with improvements to the present 20.9 Mp sensor.
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Can't see a D5X, that ship has sailed. D5s for sure, there is always an 's' version of the top range model. (the others too, they just change the naming convention, so the D800s was called the D810 instead)
Escaping said:
- D900: late 2017, with the present 20.9Mp sensor inside a D500-like platform, the way the D700 was to the D3.
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That wouldn't be like the D700 was to the D3. D5 and D500 are completely different cameras. I can't see it happening, either. Just makes everything too crowded. It would be extremely similar to the D760 (which as I say is essentially the same platform as the D500)
Escaping said:
A busy enough plan for Nikon? ... nice to speculate but I think Nikon will only do half of this in the next 12 months. Cheers and Happy New Year to everybody.
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They will only do half of it ever. No 'D900', no D5X, probably no D620, possibly no follow up to the Df
 
I really don't understand why you think a successor to the D810 will be any better in real life than what you already have. Step function changes in upgrades stopped a long time ago.

You may of course have a lot of money in which case get the D5. That'll have everything you could ever need except a high mp sensor so keep your D810 for that.
 
bobn2 said:
Escaping said:
Of course, I don't have any inside knowledge of Nikon plan but here are some speculations for the fun of closing this 2016 and looking into 2017:

- D820: a 50+ Mp sensor inside the D500 body with the CAM20K AF for Nikon to compete with the high resolution market that now includes the new medium format players

- D780: as the D810 is retired from production, the body platform of the D760 picks up the 36Mp slot while retaining the CAM3500 AF- basically a D810 in the smaller D760 body.
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The D500 body is essentially the D750 body, just some different types of switches/wheels on it. So, I suspect you're right, but I don't think Nikon will go 50+, I think they'll use the 42MP BSI sensor from the A7RII. Two reasons, one - it is a fantastic sensor, probably overall the nest made, second, generally Nikon only introduces one new Sony sources sensor and one of its own over a product cycle, and it's already used that R&D budget with the D5 and a sony special for the D500, so I expect the rest of the range is off-the-shelf Sony. I think the BSI capability will more than make up for the slight deficit in resolution compared to the Canon, and it will likely be a faster camera, too.

Whether they stay at 24MP or make the jump to 36 for the next step down is interesting. Not sure what they do.
bobn2 said:
- DF2: anniversary retro design with ergonomic improvements from the DF. This model would get the 36Mp sensor also, as well as the better CAM3500 AF module.
Click to expand...
Can't see it, I think the DF was a one off. If they are doing an anniversary special, it's more likely to be an FF mirrorless, with a short variant of the electronic diaphragm/AF-S version of the F mount (with simple adapter, like the Canon EOS-M mount, probably in the box) posing as a revived Nikon S series
bobn2 said:
- D620: taking over the D750 position, retaining the 24Mp sensor, but getting the better CAM-3500 AF.
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I'm betting they'll pass on that. I reckon that the D750 was the planned D620, the marketing department had a last minute wheeze of branding it as a new series. The range looks too crowded as it is.
bobn2 said:
- D5X may be announced in 2017 for delivery in 2018 with a 60Mp to claim the top resolution in FF land and a D5S also in 2018 with improvements to the present 20.9 Mp sensor.
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Can't see a D5X, that ship has sailed. D5s for sure, there is always an 's' version of the top range model. (the others too, they just change the naming convention, so the D800s was called the D810 instead)
bobn2 said:
- D900: late 2017, with the present 20.9Mp sensor inside a D500-like platform, the way the D700 was to the D3.
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That wouldn't be like the D700 was to the D3. D5 and D500 are completely different cameras. I can't see it happening, either. Just makes everything too crowded. It would be extremely similar to the D760 (which as I say is essentially the same platform as the D500)
bobn2 said:
A busy enough plan for Nikon? ... nice to speculate but I think Nikon will only do half of this in the next 12 months. Cheers and Happy New Year to everybody.
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They will only do half of it ever. No 'D900', no D5X, probably no D620, possibly no follow up to the Df
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mrgs1 said:
bobn2 said:
Escaping said:
Of course, I don't have any inside knowledge of Nikon plan but here are some speculations for the fun of closing this 2016 and looking into 2017:

- D820: a 50+ Mp sensor inside the D500 body with the CAM20K AF for Nikon to compete with the high resolution market that now includes the new medium format players

- D780: as the D810 is retired from production, the body platform of the D760 picks up the 36Mp slot while retaining the CAM3500 AF- basically a D810 in the smaller D760 body.
Click to expand...
The D500 body is essentially the D750 body, just some different types of switches/wheels on it. So, I suspect you're right, but I don't think Nikon will go 50+, I think they'll use the 42MP BSI sensor from the A7RII. Two reasons, one - it is a fantastic sensor, probably overall the nest made, second, generally Nikon only introduces one new Sony sources sensor and one of its own over a product cycle, and it's already used that R&D budget with the D5 and a sony special for the D500, so I expect the rest of the range is off-the-shelf Sony. I think the BSI capability will more than make up for the slight deficit in resolution compared to the Canon, and it will likely be a faster camera, too.

Whether they stay at 24MP or make the jump to 36 for the next step down is interesting. Not sure what they do.
mrgs1 said:
- DF2: anniversary retro design with ergonomic improvements from the DF. This model would get the 36Mp sensor also, as well as the better CAM3500 AF module.
Click to expand...
Can't see it, I think the DF was a one off. If they are doing an anniversary special, it's more likely to be an FF mirrorless, with a short variant of the electronic diaphragm/AF-S version of the F mount (with simple adapter, like the Canon EOS-M mount, probably in the box) posing as a revived Nikon S series
mrgs1 said:
- D620: taking over the D750 position, retaining the 24Mp sensor, but getting the better CAM-3500 AF.
Click to expand...
I'm betting they'll pass on that. I reckon that the D750 was the planned D620, the marketing department had a last minute wheeze of branding it as a new series. The range looks too crowded as it is.
mrgs1 said:
- D5X may be announced in 2017 for delivery in 2018 with a 60Mp to claim the top resolution in FF land and a D5S also in 2018 with improvements to the present 20.9 Mp sensor.
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Can't see a D5X, that ship has sailed. D5s for sure, there is always an 's' version of the top range model. (the others too, they just change the naming convention, so the D800s was called the D810 instead)
mrgs1 said:
- D900: late 2017, with the present 20.9Mp sensor inside a D500-like platform, the way the D700 was to the D3.
Click to expand...
That wouldn't be like the D700 was to the D3. D5 and D500 are completely different cameras. I can't see it happening, either. Just makes everything too crowded. It would be extremely similar to the D760 (which as I say is essentially the same platform as the D500)
mrgs1 said:
A busy enough plan for Nikon? ... nice to speculate but I think Nikon will only do half of this in the next 12 months. Cheers and Happy New Year to everybody.
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They will only do half of it ever. No 'D900', no D5X, probably no D620, possibly no follow up to the Df
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A D5x would surprise me, because the Nikon logic didn't lead to a D4x, perhaps based on sales of the D3x. I cannot see any point in both D6X0 and D7X0, the target users cannot be that far apart.

I've no idea what Nikon is planning (see we do all have one thing in common!). The D300 replacement is done, the D5 is new. A new D8X0 with somewhat more, perhaps a good deal more pixels seems likely, though frankly I cannot see many people having the need, skill and lenses but as we all know logic goes out of the window with pixels. I find the mid ground difficult to read. A high build quality body with a D5 sensor and better speed and AF might find favour, but speed and good AF find the bulk of their application in sport so the D500 may be the sole occupant of this slot. An FX body at the lowest reasonable price point seems a decent plan too.

Whatever Nikon choose you can bet there will be howls on here with cries like "Why can't we have the D200 sensor in a D5 body?"

Whatever happens I can see Nikon slowing down its iteration of DSLRs, their sales won't support it.

What they badly need is a mirrorless camera with a very few good lenses but a very versatile adaptor. Probably FX.

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a_c_skinner said:
A D5x would surprise me, because the Nikon logic didn't lead to a D4x, perhaps based on sales of the D3x. I cannot see any point in both D6X0 and D7X0, the target users cannot be that far apart.
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Yes, as I said, I agree with all that.
a_c_skinner said:
I've no idea what Nikon is planning (see we do all have one thing in common!). The D300 replacement is done, the D5 is new.
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Yup, but the D500 is a piece of clever marketing. It is a completley different camera to the D300, based on the low end platform rather than the top level one, and marketed as a 'mini D5', which it isn't. I would see the D8x0 going the same way (the D810 already partially is, it gained a plastic chassis to fix the D800 cracking issues)
a_c_skinner said:
A new D8X0 with somewhat more, perhaps a good deal more pixels seems likely, though frankly I cannot see many people having the need, skill and lenses but as we all know logic goes out of the window with pixels.
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There's also just the question of sensor availability. There is that wonderful 42MP BSI sensor waiting to be used. Overall it's still the best sensor there is,

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a_c_skinner said:
I find the mid ground difficult to read. A high build quality body
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Doesn't mean anything. Almost certainly everything below the D5 will be made like the D750, as the D500 is. Everything in the FX line will have metal shells at the top and back, I would think.
a_c_skinner said:
with a D5 sensor and better speed and AF might find favour, but speed and good AF find the bulk of their application in sport so the D500 may be the sole occupant of this slot. An FX body at the lowest reasonable price point seems a decent plan too.
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They do need something to take on the 5DIV, and if needs a better AF spec. The D810 actually outperformed the 5DIII except at the edge points, but the 5DIII won out on apparent spec, so I think that the camera will have the D5 AF, whether it be D810 or D760, just to outgun Canon in the AF spec stakes.
a_c_skinner said:
Whatever Nikon choose you can bet there will be howls on here with cries like "Why can't we have the D200 sensor in a D5 body?"
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Sure, but that's no bad thing for them. Let it go on long enough and they can pull a stunt like the D500. Really clever marketing, that.
a_c_skinner said:
Whatever happens I can see Nikon slowing down its iteration of DSLRs, their sales won't support it.
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Chicken and egg, if they don't appear to be staying the pace with Canon, their DSLR sales certainly won't support it. The question is, how they can get the best result out of wht they are willing to expend in R&D, which is why I think that they won't pass over that 42MP sensor.
a_c_skinner said:
What they badly need is a mirrorless camera with a very few good lenses but a very versatile adaptor. Probably FX.
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I speculated that could be the anniversary camera, a cod Nikon S, using the electronics of the all electronic F mount in a shorter register variant. I think the all electronic version just because it's much easier to engineer (as well as being up to date). They already produced an adapter for the 1 system with an aperture motor in it, so I can see them providing that as an option if they want to allow use with a greater number of F lenses.

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