DeFrag

Sure you can defrag the HD on a Mac. I use Drive10 for OSX. By the way what kind of
Mac and what's the problem?
Hello
Im tryying to help my cousin out, who is having some small problems
with his MAC. Sorry guys, Im not a MAC owner, and I was wondering
if its possible, to do a DE-FRAG on a MAC system?

Thanks

Mike
 
You may not see much improvement in defraging. The file system on macs is much different than PCs. You would be better off backing up and reformatting the drive.

See a technical explaination here:
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07254
Hello
Im tryying to help my cousin out, who is having some small problems
with his MAC. Sorry guys, Im not a MAC owner, and I was wondering
if its possible, to do a DE-FRAG on a MAC system?

Thanks

Mike
 
If your cousin is running OS X, I can just about assure you it's not a fragmentation issue.
  1. 1) Go here: http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill/macjanitor.html
download MacJanitor (it's free). There are four options, "Daily", "Weekly", "Monthly" & "All Tasks". Your cousin should skip the first three and go straight to "All Task". This will probably take about 2 - 3 minutes to complete.
  1. 2) Next, I would recommend emptying the trash.
  1. 3) Lastly, and most importantly... Open up the Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility. Click the "First Aid" tab and then on the left select the partition that the operating system resides on. Don't bother with the "Verify Disk Permissions" button. It's a waste of time. Go straight to the "Repair Disk Permissions". Go get a cup of coffee. Depending on the number of files present, it may take 10 or more minutes to complete.
  1. 4) Do a hard reboot. IOW, don't "Restart" the computer (soft reboot) but actually bring it all the way down with the "Shutdown" command. After it is completely down, bring it back up and your cousin should have a new machine.
Three Notes:

Once my machine was so messed up, that after I went through these steps, I had to do a hard reboot not once, but twice before everything straightend out. I have no idea why. But 99% of the time one hard reboot is all you need.

Secondly, there's another great program out (it's either freeware or shareware) called "Cocktail". It will also repair permissions and do pre-binding. If the above doesn't work I'd give Cocktail a try, but I bet the above steps will work fine.

Thirdly, the ultimate system repair software is called Disk Warrior. Hard-core Mac users swear by it.

Jase.
 
If your cousin is running OS X, I can just about assure you it's
not a fragmentation issue.
  1. 1) Go here:
http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill/macjanitor.html
download MacJanitor (it's free). There are four options, "Daily",
"Weekly", "Monthly" & "All Tasks". Your cousin should skip the
first three and go straight to "All Task". This will probably take
about 2 - 3 minutes to complete.
  1. 2) Next, I would recommend emptying the trash.
  1. 3) Lastly, and most importantly... Open up the
Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility. Click the "First Aid" tab and
then on the left select the partition that the operating system
resides on. Don't bother with the "Verify Disk Permissions"
button. It's a waste of time. Go straight to the "Repair Disk
Permissions". Go get a cup of coffee. Depending on the number of
files present, it may take 10 or more minutes to complete.
  1. 4) Do a hard reboot. IOW, don't "Restart" the computer (soft
reboot) but actually bring it all the way down with the "Shutdown"
command. After it is completely down, bring it back up and your
cousin should have a new machine.

Three Notes:

Once my machine was so messed up, that after I went through these
steps, I had to do a hard reboot not once, but twice before
everything straightend out. I have no idea why. But 99% of the time
one hard reboot is all you need.

Secondly, there's another great program out (it's either freeware
or shareware) called "Cocktail". It will also repair permissions
and do pre-binding. If the above doesn't work I'd give Cocktail a
try, but I bet the above steps will work fine.

Thirdly, the ultimate system repair software is called Disk
Warrior. Hard-core Mac users swear by it.

Jase.
Hi Jase, I have done the repair permissions thing before but I hadn't tried the Mac Janitor til I saw your reply. Nice easy download and easy to use. Seems to be effective too. I tried Norton Systemworks utilities but when I tried to defrag with speed disk I got all those spooky cross linked file messages, etc. that I hear alot of Norton critics complain about. I'll just use their anti virus, thank you. The other bits don't seem to be too well sorted out for OSX.
Thanks for the info.
--
Lili's Dad

http://www.pbase.com/lilis_papa
 
I work on Macs all day. infact just today my machine was running very slow too. Ran Nortons but also re-build the desktop. If you don't have nortons you can still re-build. To do so hold down the option and command (apple) keys together. do a restart and keep the two keys pressed untill you see the barber shop pole start to get a solid line from left to right. this should help. Good luck

Kakarp
If your cousin is running OS X, I can just about assure you it's
not a fragmentation issue.
  1. 1) Go here:
http://personalpages.tds.net/~brian_hill/macjanitor.html
download MacJanitor (it's free). There are four options, "Daily",
"Weekly", "Monthly" & "All Tasks". Your cousin should skip the
first three and go straight to "All Task". This will probably take
about 2 - 3 minutes to complete.
  1. 2) Next, I would recommend emptying the trash.
  1. 3) Lastly, and most importantly... Open up the
Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility. Click the "First Aid" tab and
then on the left select the partition that the operating system
resides on. Don't bother with the "Verify Disk Permissions"
button. It's a waste of time. Go straight to the "Repair Disk
Permissions". Go get a cup of coffee. Depending on the number of
files present, it may take 10 or more minutes to complete.
  1. 4) Do a hard reboot. IOW, don't "Restart" the computer (soft
reboot) but actually bring it all the way down with the "Shutdown"
command. After it is completely down, bring it back up and your
cousin should have a new machine.

Three Notes:

Once my machine was so messed up, that after I went through these
steps, I had to do a hard reboot not once, but twice before
everything straightend out. I have no idea why. But 99% of the time
one hard reboot is all you need.

Secondly, there's another great program out (it's either freeware
or shareware) called "Cocktail". It will also repair permissions
and do pre-binding. If the above doesn't work I'd give Cocktail a
try, but I bet the above steps will work fine.

Thirdly, the ultimate system repair software is called Disk
Warrior. Hard-core Mac users swear by it.

Jase.
Hi Jase, I have done the repair permissions thing before but I
hadn't tried the Mac Janitor til I saw your reply. Nice easy
download and easy to use. Seems to be effective too. I tried Norton
Systemworks utilities but when I tried to defrag with speed disk I
got all those spooky cross linked file messages, etc. that I hear
alot of Norton critics complain about. I'll just use their anti
virus, thank you. The other bits don't seem to be too well sorted
out for OSX.
Thanks for the info.
--
Lili's Dad

http://www.pbase.com/lilis_papa
 
I work on Macs all day. infact just today my machine was running
very slow too. Ran Nortons but also re-build the desktop. If you
don't have nortons you can still re-build. To do so hold down the
option and command (apple) keys together. do a restart and keep the
two keys pressed untill you see the barber shop pole start to get a
solid line from left to right. this should help. Good luck
OS X will let you rebuild the desktop -- but not for X -- it is for Classic (OS 9 running on OS X). So if you are running all your programs in X (which most people are now) then I don't think that rebuilding the desktop will really help.

I guess it won't hurt though. It's worth a try. I dunno.

jase.
 
You may not see much improvement in defraging. The file system on
macs is much different than PCs. You would be better off backing up
and reformatting the drive.

See a technical explaination here:
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07254
That article had some merit until OS X changed the file structure significantly... many smaller files as opposed to several larger files... even installing OS updates can seriously fragment a drive. Granted defrag is still more important in video and audio applications than elsewhere, but it's still a good practise.

To solve problems however including spinning beach balls, repairing permissions is usually more effective.
 
I really got some good information from those site. I have only had some minor problems but I know
I will find the repairs on those site.

Thanks
Hey guys, I dug around on Google and found this site. Looks pretty
good and fairly indepth. It might be worth bookmarking for those
times you need to trouble-shoot.

http://www.macattorney.com/tutorial.html

And here's another great site to check out (I really like this site)

http://www.ourpla.net/guiunix/GettingXGoing.html

Maybe some of you have some good sites to share.

jase.
 
Not sure what you mean Brian, the HFS/HFS+ file system is still used in OS X. This article was published June 30th of 2003.

Kris
You may not see much improvement in defraging. The file system on
macs is much different than PCs. You would be better off backing up
and reformatting the drive.

See a technical explaination here:
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07254
That article had some merit until OS X changed the file structure
significantly... many smaller files as opposed to several larger
files... even installing OS updates can seriously fragment a drive.
Granted defrag is still more important in video and audio
applications than elsewhere, but it's still a good practise.

To solve problems however including spinning beach balls, repairing
permissions is usually more effective.
 

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