Yes. How much depends on how you perceive the G3's EVF. You should notice a more generous eyepoint, clearer eyepiece, larger magnification, faster responses and no rainbowing (if you see that in certain circumstances). How much these matter and how beneficial they are to you, depends on you really.
Good point ^^^^.
Helen, you seem to be talking about the quality of the viewfinder, not the actual captured images which is what I think Cartesio is concerned with.
I guess if Brexit does happen (not a fan), Atleast the video record limitation should stop being implemented in U.K. Cameras. Although this would be great, it may impact the price of used cameras that have the restriction.
Yes, I was stuck in the moment from another thread (that'll teach me to snatch a moment when I should be working!). Sorry.
I went G5 to G7 and found some of the same improvements as Trevor above. Some are about image quality but others are more 'performance and useability', ie
That all sounds about right (except it's not a cooling fan, just the levitation system of the IBIS, and I don't mind it - used to it from Olympuses). I'm not sure about the weatherproof aspects as I'm unwilling to risk it (coward that I am!).Hi Helen,
I think you one of the few who owns a G80/G85 and post about it like a "review".
I haven't read all the posts from this thread but from what i have seen:
(please correct me if i am wrong)
- G7 (nearly perfect/very good except the shuttershock?) and the G80/85 is a big step better in handling and they resovled the "weakpoints" of the G7. no shutter shock visible anymore.
- The 16Mb with out AA filter does a great job, no moire or other difficult removable distorsion because of the lack of AA filter.
- EVF is visible improved and imagebuffer is fast and swift so no freeze ups by burst in raw.
- very responsive AF. Fast acces to important settings by dedicated knobs/buttons.
-Weatherproofing (body and lens) IF used the 12-60mm kitlens,
(i am not sure how this works out if you use a other lens which not listed as weatherproof. (Does this leak only in the lens (also a not funny thing to happen) or also into the body along the attach ring/mount?) And how dust/moist resistant is the (for instance) 14-140mm?)
Sounds like a no brainer.
Is there any thing you stumbled on what didn't bring a smile on your face?
(yes i know the bill.... ;-) )
(and some "humming" i believe caused by the IBIS or cooling fan?)
Very interesting. Several small improvements can make a big one.
TRUE!
I'm afraid it still doesn't work. Panasonic seem to belong to the group of people who don't see the point in that, unfortunately.
Thank you. Such a simple feature and it's costing them sales, such as mine.
Yes, I am still curious about this too.One way to test is to mount the 12-50 onto the G80. Then it will only be the IBIS in action. 1/4 probably no longer works.This is probably not as detailed as you hoped, and I suppose the results might only apply to my own hand held camera stability, but I tested the G80 with the Panasonic 12-60 at 50mm (this lens gives the new, souped-up Dual IS2) and the E-M5 Mark II with the Olympus 12-50 at 50mm, in both cases with the stabilisation system on, of course. In both cases, it turned out that I could get a sharp exposure at 1/4 second consistently. In both cases, I could sometimes (1 in 4?) get a sharp exposure at 1/2 second.Hello Helen.
It would be really great to have some comments on how the IBIS of the G80 compares with the EM5II.
I would ask specifically for 'detailed comments' but I have confidence that you would supply those as a matter of course
I've always thought more highly of the GX7/8 IBIS than many people here, but they have a different characteristic to the Oly stabilisation - the latter being far preferable if you like a constantly stabilised viewfinder (which I do), but also in terms of consistency of critical sharpness.
I can normally rely on an Oly to return a virtually tripod sharp result with a single shot on the majority of occasions. I can actually hand hold the panasonics to a SLOWER shutter speed - but its a bit hit and miss as to knowing if the shot is critically sharp. It will be good enough for small prints or web most of the time, but the Oly IBIS has for me been the gold standard if I want to do something like a hand held pano, and need to ensure ALL the shots in the sweep are sharp and usable. It would be fantastic if the G80 was now up to that level.
Insight awaited
Cheers
Ga.
So from that brief test, it appears that for me, with those lenses, on that occasion :-D the G80 when performing Dual IS2 is finally as good as the E-M5 II (on its own). I suppose, from Panasonic's own inferences, Dual IS (not the 2 version) on the G80 might be a shade less effective, and IBIS on its own might be a bit less effective again. Maybe!
