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Art YOW said:
Art YOW said:
As with the GX80, the 5-axis IBIS operates with a constant background "whoosh", only noticeable in quiet surroundings, and when the camera isn't running, the sensor assembly can be felt to slide from side to side.
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Still waiting for the camera to be released in Canada. Nice to see the positive feedback from people who have their hands on it.

I am concerned about the "whoosh" sound. Have you found it gets picked up by the internal mike when recording indoors - for example recording someone speaking?

How distracting is it? I have heard some people say that the internal mics have a poor dynamic range and with the "woosh" sound in the background the video audio is NOT usable?

Thanks
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I'm sorry to say that the wooshing sound is permanently on even when you switch stabiliser off. It does get picked up by the internal microphone. I imagine if I use my plug in mic a bit away from the body it should be fine.

Bit disappointing that I can't put it on a tripod and make it shut up though.
 
dweller88 said:
Art YOW said:
dweller88 said:
As with the GX80, the 5-axis IBIS operates with a constant background "whoosh", only noticeable in quiet surroundings, and when the camera isn't running, the sensor assembly can be felt to slide from side to side.
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Still waiting for the camera to be released in Canada. Nice to see the positive feedback from people who have their hands on it.

I am concerned about the "whoosh" sound. Have you found it gets picked up by the internal mike when recording indoors - for example recording someone speaking?

How distracting is it? I have heard some people say that the internal mics have a poor dynamic range and with the "woosh" sound in the background the video audio is NOT usable?

Thanks
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I'm sorry to say that the wooshing sound is permanently on even when you switch stabiliser off. It does get picked up by the internal microphone. I imagine if I use my plug in mic a bit away from the body it should be fine.

Bit disappointing that I can't put it on a tripod and make it shut up though.
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As I tested on my GX80, the sound you hear is transmitted through the vibrations of the body, not through air. You have to use a well suspended mic in the hot shoe, otherwise it will pick up the same noise. It does not matter how close or far away from the body it actually is.
 
I believe the observations in these posts have been honestly qualified in terms of time of ownership. And there may be some of us who appreciate the information, trying to decide whether or not to buy in the near term.

I wonder why people make non-constructive statements having little or nothing to do with the thread subject.

Richard Southworth
 
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h2k said:
Just wondering why people post reviews after 15 minutes of handling... why not test more thoroughly, why not let impressions sink and build?
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Well, it varies from person to person how impressions of handling will develop - in my case, first impressions usually last and I am pretty observant. I confine myself to making observations about handling and operation, because proper, thorough use takes me longer to build up, due to various responsibilities I have that don't give me much opportunity to go out shooting as often as I would like. I hope it's of some interest or use to somebody... but clearly not to everybody. ;-) I will have to leave the really in-depth, long-term reviews to those who have the opportunity and patience to do them. For myself, I enjoy reading anybody's reviews, at whatever stage they do them. I've been particularly looking forward to hearing Trevor Carpenter's opinions and seeing his shots, and his reports haven't disappointed - with excellent shots, as usual. Or they could be even MORE excellent than usual, if that's possible!
 
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h2k said:
Just wondering why people post reviews after 15 minutes of handling... why not test more thoroughly, why not let impressions sink and build?
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I think first impressions are very important. I agree that a fuller review after a period of use is helpful. Interestingly the professional reviewers rarely post reviews after a period of use which is why most of them are useless.
 
Well thanks to the posts here, I plumped for the G80 (Have to say, the free battery grip swayed me, will probably sell that on to help recover some of the cost, but will try first to see the balance.



I was planning to take some shots at lunch time, to share, but left the battery at home charging - doh!



A couple here of the camera, and one I snapped last night to test stabiliser. Ok, it is not 100% sharp, but it is 600mm equiv hand held at 1 second - I think it's not too shabby considering!





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kolyy said:
dweller88 said:
Art YOW said:
kolyy said:
As with the GX80, the 5-axis IBIS operates with a constant background "whoosh", only noticeable in quiet surroundings, and when the camera isn't running, the sensor assembly can be felt to slide from side to side.
Click to expand...
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As I tested on my GX80, the sound you hear is transmitted through the vibrations of the body, not through air. You have to use a well suspended mic in the hot shoe, otherwise it will pick up the same noise. It does not matter how close or far away from the body it actually is.
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I am seeing a fair number of negative comments regarding the G80 IBIS hissing sound.

Thanks for the information. It looks like this will address the issue.

There are a lot of options for shotgun mics suspended in the hot shoe. Is there a particular model of mic that has worked for you?

Do you think something like the RODE Videomicro microphone would be effective?



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Art YOW said:
kolyy said:
dweller88 said:
Art YOW said:
Art YOW said:
As with the GX80, the 5-axis IBIS operates with a constant background "whoosh", only noticeable in quiet surroundings, and when the camera isn't running, the sensor assembly can be felt to slide from side to side.
Click to expand...
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As I tested on my GX80, the sound you hear is transmitted through the vibrations of the body, not through air. You have to use a well suspended mic in the hot shoe, otherwise it will pick up the same noise. It does not matter how close or far away from the body it actually is.
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I am seeing a fair number of negative comments regarding the G80 IBIS hissing sound.

Thanks for the information. It looks like this will address the issue.

There are a lot of options for shotgun mics suspended in the hot shoe. Is there a particular model of mic that has worked for you?

Do you think something like the RODE Videomicro microphone would be effective?

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Yes, I have the Rode VideoMic Go and the suspension is very effective.
 
I have a GH2 and am considering the G85. I would buy the kit and use the 12-60 lens and my 45-200 (from the GH2).

From what I've read I know that the Dual IS 2 will not work with the 45-200. I'm ok with that. However, I'm not clear whether this lens will work with the IBIS or only the internal OIS. It would seem that you could have one or the other working. Using the IBIS would require that the lens OIS system be disabled and the elements stationary (which is what I expect happens when the OIS is turned off).

Anyone know how the G85 handles the 45-200 lens?

Thanks.
 
Stefan Sobol said:
I have a GH2 and am considering the G85. I would buy the kit and use the 12-60 lens and my 45-200 (from the GH2).

From what I've read I know that the Dual IS 2 will not work with the 45-200. I'm ok with that. However, I'm not clear whether this lens will work with the IBIS or only the internal OIS. It would seem that you could have one or the other working. Using the IBIS would require that the lens OIS system be disabled and the elements stationary (which is what I expect happens when the OIS is turned off).

Anyone know how the G85 handles the 45-200 lens?

Thanks.
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Yes, I've tried it. It does not use the IBIS at all - the switch on the lens takes over as a master switch for any form of stabilization and simply turns the OIS of the lens on and off.
 
Hmm..

That will/would be interesting to see if the (2011?)MEGA OIS that the 45-200 has is better or worse than 2016 5-axis IBIS of the G8x.

Then the same experiment could be used/tested with different lenses like the 14-45, 14-42 (ver1 and 2) .. etc

Even seeing if the superior? P.OIS is better or worse than the same IBIS.

Just a thought. :)
 
Does anyone know whether it is possible to record past the 29:59 limit? From what I read, it is, and the recording is divided into separate files that can be joined within a editing program, or have I got this totally wrong?
 
I believe you can record until the card is full

I don't know how the files work
 
bradevans said:
I believe you can record until the card is full

I don't know how the files work
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Thanks. If that's the case I will change my FZ2000 pre-order to the G80. I'll contact Panasonic for clarification first. I'm surprised they didn't make a bigger deal out of this.
 
Just spoke to Panasonic re video recording time limit and the EU versions will definitely stop recording at 29:59. Pretty sure the recording is split into 4gb files.
 
I have a Panny G3. If I switch to the G80, shall I see an improvement in image quality?
 
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