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FZ2000 No video time limit restrictions.
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Rodger1943
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I might be wrong, as I've read so much on the FZ2000/2500, that I can't recall where I've read things and can't go back and check, but my impression was that it applied to the US cameras, but not necessarily to the cameras sold in other markets. The EU still has that extra tax on video cameras.
Saunders Films
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The specifications listed on the UK and Ireland site seem to say (in the notes at the bottom) that the camera will record past 30 minutes. The video will be made up of segments with a maximum of 30 minutes. This sounds like the GH4 way of doing things.
In effect, the FZ2000 continuously records video. Here's the link: http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...oint-and-shoot/bridge-cameras/dmc-fz2000.html .
Panasonic may have agreed to pay video camera import tariffs to allow the longer recording time. That might partly explain the jump in price compared to the FZ1000.
In effect, the FZ2000 continuously records video. Here's the link: http://www.panasonic.com/uk/consume...oint-and-shoot/bridge-cameras/dmc-fz2000.html .
Panasonic may have agreed to pay video camera import tariffs to allow the longer recording time. That might partly explain the jump in price compared to the FZ1000.
I called Panasonic support and they confirmed that there are no time limit restrictions on U.K. Models. I've also written to them for confirmation.
Rodger1943
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Good to know for sure. Now I don't have to worry about where I thought I had read that it only applied to the US models.
Good news:
Thank you for your e-mail.
"In response to your query, I am writing to inform you that the DMC-FZ2000 does indeed have unlimited recording time, there are no recording time restrictions."
PC Wheeler
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Thanks for posting that confirmation. Like others I thought that was the case, but could not find the info on line yesterday.
My FZ2500 is on order; but it sure seems like a long wait!
The things you mentioned I do not care if there are phisical buttons and rings.
For me more important is faster lens and longer reach, decent qualit from wide to tele and decent sensor with good DR.
IMO also body of RX10 is better- offers a display and aperture ring and two programable rings for zooming and MF.
The only thing (but very important) Panasonic should have better is AF speed and this is I am worring about.
So before buying I must check if I can manage this camera for fast action scenes.
Fortunately RX103 is in the street shops so I plan to try it out.
it is a pity that this camera is so expensive...
For me more important is faster lens and longer reach, decent qualit from wide to tele and decent sensor with good DR.
IMO also body of RX10 is better- offers a display and aperture ring and two programable rings for zooming and MF.
The only thing (but very important) Panasonic should have better is AF speed and this is I am worring about.
So before buying I must check if I can manage this camera for fast action scenes.
Fortunately RX103 is in the street shops so I plan to try it out.
it is a pity that this camera is so expensive...
Saunders Films
Member
I've ordered one, too. The non-stop video is important to me, as is the smooth zooming and excellent focusing. The whole package is really a very good video camera with high-quality stills, too. If we look back even five years a camera with all the promised qualities would cost thousands, if it were available at all.
OK ma priority use will be stills so F4 and 600 mm does matter for shutter and ISO value..
30 min video is enough for me. Even when I was using video camera long time ago (Panasonic G3) I was not able to exceed 30 min non stop.
The best could be to mix a little these two cameras together.
I wish in Sony RX10 mk3 to have the Panasonic AF and articulated screen.( - could be touch screen)
The price for me is much more important than for you because I am not living and working in USA or Western European country.
It means I have to work 5 times longer and pay more taxes, so imagine that a guy from USA have to pay for this toy ca 8 000$ .....
30 min video is enough for me. Even when I was using video camera long time ago (Panasonic G3) I was not able to exceed 30 min non stop.
The best could be to mix a little these two cameras together.
I wish in Sony RX10 mk3 to have the Panasonic AF and articulated screen.( - could be touch screen)
The price for me is much more important than for you because I am not living and working in USA or Western European country.
It means I have to work 5 times longer and pay more taxes, so imagine that a guy from USA have to pay for this toy ca 8 000$ .....
Saunders Films
Member
It's a lot of money for me, too (in Scotland, not USA). It does represent very good value for money, though, when seen as a top quality video camera with good stills ability, too.
Last time all cameras became expensive.
I was lucky to buy in the past Samsung NX system for low prices and do not see anything on such level for such prices.
But in this system there is not such lens as Tamron 16-300 for Canon/Nikon and even specialsed tele 100-400 or another.
lens for MFT cameras are very very expensive.
So you are right -in comparison to other alternatives these cameras are still competitive.
But when I think how many days I have to work to earn money for a toy and there are people who need work even much much longer I wonder how crazy the world is...
This is the reason of emigration and so on.
But Ok tjis is not photo topic.
I hope you will present how good/bad your new toy is when you receive it.
Greetings.
I was lucky to buy in the past Samsung NX system for low prices and do not see anything on such level for such prices.
But in this system there is not such lens as Tamron 16-300 for Canon/Nikon and even specialsed tele 100-400 or another.
lens for MFT cameras are very very expensive.
So you are right -in comparison to other alternatives these cameras are still competitive.
But when I think how many days I have to work to earn money for a toy and there are people who need work even much much longer I wonder how crazy the world is...
This is the reason of emigration and so on.
But Ok tjis is not photo topic.
I hope you will present how good/bad your new toy is when you receive it.
Greetings.
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Saunders Films
Member
I work as a photographer and videographer so the FZ2000 isn't a toy. It helps to make my videos better for my customers which should bring me more work. I use Nikon DSLRs for both video and photography. They are excellent for stills but severely limited for video. If the subject is static they work well, but are very slow to focus in live view and don't have the range of ability (with smartphone control) which Panasonic offers.
Next consider weight and size. The lens on the FZ2000 is likely to be very sharp. It's expensive to try to match that quality with removable lenses. The weight and bulk must be considered too; one camera and lens is easier to carry than a bag with several heavy chunks of glass.
Consider this, too: I don't take shots or videos for my own amusement; I'm being paid to deliver, often at one-off events, so I must get results. I've missed shots in the past because I had the wrong lens on the camera when a situation suddenly developed. An all-in-one camera means I'll usually get the shot.
So for working professionals and advanced amateurs the camera could be a wise purchase. For the cost, it provides excellent value. There's a certainty that the quality won't match APS-C or full-frame in low-light conditions but the trade-off is worth it to me.
Look at the price of well-specified camcorders. You'll maybe find that the FZ2000 is an excellent camcorder with a good stills camera included for free!
Next consider weight and size. The lens on the FZ2000 is likely to be very sharp. It's expensive to try to match that quality with removable lenses. The weight and bulk must be considered too; one camera and lens is easier to carry than a bag with several heavy chunks of glass.
Consider this, too: I don't take shots or videos for my own amusement; I'm being paid to deliver, often at one-off events, so I must get results. I've missed shots in the past because I had the wrong lens on the camera when a situation suddenly developed. An all-in-one camera means I'll usually get the shot.
So for working professionals and advanced amateurs the camera could be a wise purchase. For the cost, it provides excellent value. There's a certainty that the quality won't match APS-C or full-frame in low-light conditions but the trade-off is worth it to me.
Look at the price of well-specified camcorders. You'll maybe find that the FZ2000 is an excellent camcorder with a good stills camera included for free!
I do not work as photographer so for me it is a toy - hobby.
Of course I understand your way of thinking - and agree in 100%.
This is also a reason I want to buy such camera for such situations you mentioned.
For predicted scenes I have quite decent DX sesnor set - light body and small pancakes and I am very satisfied.
But for trips when I can not predict the scene I want to have as much zoom as possible but with decent quality.
Last time such cameras as Sony (RX1o serie) and Panasonic FZxxx or Canon G3X or announced Nikon DL24-500 allow to realise such dream unfortunately not possible with interchangeble lens cameras (WHY ????)
To choose something from this offer .....yes some investigations must be done.
So my way of thinking is:
FZ2000 not reviewd till now but as far I know 480/F4,8 is not the best they could to offer.
Nikon DL - announced and advertised as very fast AF action cameraa but it is much much delayed and also 500/F5,6 does not look impressive...
Should I wait? I do not think so.
Canon G3X - great range for 1" camera but poor AF no VF in the body and again slow lens. In general camera not for everybody and competionon looks better!
FZ1000 - the best price parameters grrat but unfortunatly not enough of zoom range - 400 mm was the record in the time camera occured on the market but now is detronised.
And RX10 mk3 -The lens 24-600/F2,4-F4 seems very very impressive - according to reviews surprisngly optical quality seems ver very good for such kind of lens.
The cons are: no so good AF as FZ ( but acceptable) and much higher price.
Another cons is - probaly within few monthts Sony will present mk4 with better AF and touch screen or even longer reach he he.
Is the RX10 mk3 video quality worse than from FZ2000? I do not know but I think I do not care about such marginal differences.
The 600/F4 mm vs 480/F4,8 mm makes much more important difference for me.
The conclusion is Sony and Panasonic are the best for now but we must wait for FZ2000 reviews to compare them to choose better option for us.
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Additional some marketing kind of question.
The question is why i.e Nikon does not offer such lens for Nikon one body????
Buying such expensive camera as DL24-500 or similar and having a damage of the body we have to loose also the lens!
Nikon one is great system for long reach zoom and the can offer wide (i.e 12-200 eqv) and tele (i.e. 200-2000) range and universal 24-600.
It could be great system.
Of course I understand your way of thinking - and agree in 100%.
This is also a reason I want to buy such camera for such situations you mentioned.
For predicted scenes I have quite decent DX sesnor set - light body and small pancakes and I am very satisfied.
But for trips when I can not predict the scene I want to have as much zoom as possible but with decent quality.
Last time such cameras as Sony (RX1o serie) and Panasonic FZxxx or Canon G3X or announced Nikon DL24-500 allow to realise such dream unfortunately not possible with interchangeble lens cameras (WHY ????)
To choose something from this offer .....yes some investigations must be done.
So my way of thinking is:
FZ2000 not reviewd till now but as far I know 480/F4,8 is not the best they could to offer.
Nikon DL - announced and advertised as very fast AF action cameraa but it is much much delayed and also 500/F5,6 does not look impressive...
Should I wait? I do not think so.
Canon G3X - great range for 1" camera but poor AF no VF in the body and again slow lens. In general camera not for everybody and competionon looks better!
FZ1000 - the best price parameters grrat but unfortunatly not enough of zoom range - 400 mm was the record in the time camera occured on the market but now is detronised.
And RX10 mk3 -The lens 24-600/F2,4-F4 seems very very impressive - according to reviews surprisngly optical quality seems ver very good for such kind of lens.
The cons are: no so good AF as FZ ( but acceptable) and much higher price.
Another cons is - probaly within few monthts Sony will present mk4 with better AF and touch screen or even longer reach he he.
Is the RX10 mk3 video quality worse than from FZ2000? I do not know but I think I do not care about such marginal differences.
The 600/F4 mm vs 480/F4,8 mm makes much more important difference for me.
The conclusion is Sony and Panasonic are the best for now but we must wait for FZ2000 reviews to compare them to choose better option for us.
====
Additional some marketing kind of question.
The question is why i.e Nikon does not offer such lens for Nikon one body????
Buying such expensive camera as DL24-500 or similar and having a damage of the body we have to loose also the lens!
Nikon one is great system for long reach zoom and the can offer wide (i.e 12-200 eqv) and tele (i.e. 200-2000) range and universal 24-600.
It could be great system.
AlexisTecnico
Member
FZ2500 the lens is 480mm F4.5, not 4.8 and RX10 III lack built-it ND filter . FZ2500 has variable ND filter, articulating touch screen, better AF performance, no video time limit, system frequency hz selector, inner zoom structure, Full HD at 200 Mbps, HDMI output in 4:2:2/8-bit, and more .
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