Should I buy a 600mm f/4 FL ED VR or a D5?

Should I buy a 600mm f/4 FL ED VR or a D5?


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Hi, Lance .

I think to buy D500 & Tamron 150-600mm G2 , but I wait some very good review for G2.

Best regards, Valeriu
 
Hi, Lance .

I think to buy D500 & Tamron 150-600mm G2 , but I wait some very good review for G2.

Best regards, Valeriu
The D500 is a gem and the new Tamron should also be a cracker of a lens. Enjoy!
 
I saw that there are some problems with writing D500 on cards, some rubber plugs unglued.

and this :



Regards, Valeriu
 
I saw that there are some problems with writing D500 on cards,
That was a card issue, not a Nikon issue, and has been resolved by the card manufacturer.

On AF point - do you intend to create an impression you may be frightened of your own shadow? There are many more AF points covering a greater width of the viewfinder than ever before, there are for the first time since the D2 outer AF cross points, and the D500 single direction points seem to work better than on earlier cameras.

The D500 AF is overall far superior to any other Nikon except perhaps the D5.
 
Dear Leonard , I am aware that D500 is the best camera for BIF, from all the times.
I do not think that will be matched anytime soon, by the other brand, even by Canon.

So I thought to buy D500.

What do you say about this ?


Thanks & regards, Valeriu
 
When I posted, the price was 1499 $ , now I see that increased to 1,679 $.

Leonard, you was Photographer for 54 years.

Please advice for the eyes. How you work at the computer, not to affect the eyes too much ?

Do you have a secret ?

Thanks & regards, Valeriu
 
Dear Whoosh, IMHO, I really appreciate experienced people, and so when I have a problem, I appeal to those people. ;-)

Regards, Valeriu
 
When I posted, the price was 1499 $ , now I see that increased to 1,679 $.
Are you are not looking in the best places?

The current "common" UK price is around £1,440 plus sales tax, though Amazon list it at 7.5% less.

Even though the value of the £ is falling against $ the $1,679 seems more expensive than £1,440; both prices excluding taxes.
Leonard, you was Photographer for 54 years.
Plus 31 days - and computers were not common for the first 30 years.
Please advice for the eyes. How you work at the computer, not to affect the eyes too much ?
I follow standard advice - which I assume is the same where you live.

If you do not know what the standard advice is, take frequent 10 minute breaks and do not use a computer without a break for more than an hour. Also get an annual eye check - a compulsory employment requirement for anybody working with computers in the UK.
 
I currently have a D4s and a 400mm f/2.8 FL ED VR and almost always use it with the TC-14E III. I find myself almost always cropping 100% or more to get the desired composition for most of what I find myself photographing. (Surfing from shore).

I'm intrigued by the slight resolution increase of the D5 and am not too put off by the less flexible dynamic range. I'm very interested in the increased sensitivity of the center AF-point as I almost always toggle between AF-C dynamic 9 and AF-C single point (via the customizable buttons on the lens barrel).

I love compression and the long-glass look and always shoot wide-open. Granted the price difference is huge, but life is short.
Buy a D500 :D

I just saved you THOUSANDSSSSS.... Wheres my beer? :)
 
Dear Leonard , thanks very much.

Regards, Valeriu
 
I currently have a D4s and a 400mm f/2.8 FL ED VR and almost always use it with the TC-14E III. I find myself almost always cropping 100% or more to get the desired composition for most of what I find myself photographing. (Surfing from shore).

I'm intrigued by the slight resolution increase of the D5 and am not too put off by the less flexible dynamic range. I'm very interested in the increased sensitivity of the center AF-point as I almost always toggle between AF-C dynamic 9 and AF-C single point (via the customizable buttons on the lens barrel).

I love compression and the long-glass look and always shoot wide-open. Granted the price difference is huge, but life is short.
Buy a D500 :D

I just saved you THOUSANDSSSSS.... Wheres my beer? :)
 
Too late- Got it today and have been playing with it all day. Very very impressed- More-so that I was initially with the 400. It's amazingly light. Works extremely well with the TC-14E III but I can tell technique is going to be a much larger part of the equation than with any setup I've used before.. Time to sell the 400.
Nice!! :)
 
I currently have a D4s and a 400mm f/2.8 FL ED VR and almost always use it with the TC-14E III. I find myself almost always cropping 100% or more to get the desired composition for most of what I find myself photographing. (Surfing from shore).

I'm intrigued by the slight resolution increase of the D5 and am not too put off by the less flexible dynamic range. I'm very interested in the increased sensitivity of the center AF-point as I almost always toggle between AF-C dynamic 9 and AF-C single point (via the customizable buttons on the lens barrel).

I love compression and the long-glass look and always shoot wide-open. Granted the price difference is huge, but life is short.
Buy a D500 :D

I just saved you THOUSANDSSSSS.... Wheres my beer? :)
 
For what you are shooting the D500 20.9MP APS-C camera makes more sense than a 20.9MP full frame camera. Same AF system in both cameras and same have high fps rate with XQD cards.

The advantage of the 600mm is being able to add the 1.4x TC and having a 840mm f/5.6 that is quite usable in terms of autofocus. Check the available AF sensors for the D4s, D5, and D500 with the 600mm f/4 and with the addition of the teleconverter as the outer AF sensors are not usable.

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For what you are shooting the D500 20.9MP APS-C camera makes more sense than a 20.9MP full frame camera. Same AF system in both cameras and same have high fps rate with XQD cards.

The advantage of the 600mm is being able to add the 1.4x TC and having a 840mm f/5.6 that is quite usable in terms of autofocus. Check the available AF sensors for the D4s, D5, and D500 with the 600mm f/4 and with the addition of the teleconverter as the outer AF sensors are not usable.
 
Check the available AF sensors for the D4s, D5, and D500 with the 600mm f/4 and with the addition of the teleconverter as the outer AF sensors are not usable.
There is a big difference, particularly with D500/D5, between no outer AF points available (what you imply) and some cross type AF points being restricted to single line detection which is what you get with outer cross type AF points on a D5/500.

On a D5/500 outer AF points are reduced to single direction detection with some long focal length lenses even when operating at faster than f5.6.

How many and which cross type sensors are reduced to single line detection is explained on pages 98-101 of the instruction book. Those considering a D500 can download or view the instruction book at many Nikon websites to check AF point availability with a range of Nikon lenses.

With the 600 f4 (the lens being considered) with no converter on a D5/500 the two outer extreme column of cross type revert to single direct ability, and with a 1.4 converter the two outer blocks of cross type revert to single direction.

On a detail all outer AF points on the three cameras you mention work with f5.6 combinations to Nikons unspecified minimum standard.

Going further with some limitations as to when and what with all Nikon "official f5.6" AF points often work quite well with f8 combinations and stationary subjects - though usually well below focus tracking speed needed for birds in flight.

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Leonard Shepherd
You can buy kit. The rest is mainly down to you.
The more you practice, as with a musical instrument, the better you are likely to become.
 
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Check the available AF sensors for the D4s, D5, and D500 with the 600mm f/4 and with the addition of the teleconverter as the outer AF sensors are not usable.
There is a big difference, particularly with D500/D5, between no outer AF points available (what you imply) and some cross type AF points being restricted to single line detection which is what you get with outer cross type AF points on a D5/500.

On a D5/500 outer AF points are reduced to single direction detection with some long focal length lenses even when operating at faster than f5.6.

How many and which cross type sensors are reduced to single line detection is explained on pages 98-101 of the instruction book. Those considering a D500 can download or view the instruction book at many Nikon websites to check AF point availability with a range of Nikon lenses.

With the 600 f4 (the lens being considered) with no converter on a D5/500 the two outer extreme column of cross type revert to single direct ability, and with a 1.4 converter the two outer blocks of cross type revert to single direction.

On a detail all outer AF points on the three cameras you mention work with f5.6 combinations to Nikons unspecified minimum standard.

Going further with some limitations as to when and what with all Nikon "official f5.6" AF points often work quite well with f8 combinations and stationary subjects - though usually well below focus tracking speed needed for birds in flight.

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Leonard Shepherd
You can buy kit. The rest is mainly down to you.
The more you practice, as with a musical instrument, the better you are likely to become.
Thanks Leonard. It's always good to take another look at those pages. What are your thoughts on the following:

- on Page 98 it says "AF-S lenses other than those listed below with maximum apertures of f/4 or faster 1"

- The manual then proceeds to list out the various 500mm lenses as having only 45 cross AF points, but specifically DOES NOT mention the 500E. Ergo the lens I have, the 500G has 45 cross AF points available but the 500E has 99 - do you agree?

- Also do you agree my 500G has 45 points whether I use the TC14E or don't use it (which is surprising but that is what it says) - again do you agree?

Thanks again, always nice to talk to you.

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Best Regards,
SteveK
'A camera is an instrument that teaches people how to see without a camera.' -- Dorothea Lange
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