X-T1 Coming out of manual settings and trying to get reliable Auto exposure

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Hi,

Six months or so ago, just before leaving for an extended trip, I bought the X-T1. Coming from a Nikon D700 that nails exposure every time, I found the X-T1 to be hit and miss. Not wanting to screw up the photos, I spent the whole 5 month trip doing street photography in 42+ degrees heat of India, Thailand and Cambodia whilst using the camera in full manual mode. ..not easy

Now I have time for testing, i want to get to know the camera's characteristics in Auto Exposure mode and with little testing I have done so far, it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.

Does anybody else find they have this issue with the X-T1? Do you find it consistently underexposes? or is the evaluative metering is just bad on the X-T1?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?

Thanks.
 
Hi,
Six months or so ago, just before leaving for an extended trip, I bought the X-T1. Coming from a Nikon D700 that nails exposure every time, I found the X-T1 to be hit and miss. Not wanting to screw up the photos, I spent the whole 5 month trip doing street photography in 42+ degrees heat of India, Thailand and Cambodia whilst using the camera in full manual mode. ..not easy
Now I have time for testing, i want to get to know the camera's characteristics in Auto Exposure mode and with little testing I have done so far, it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Does anybody else find they have this issue with the X-T1? Do you find it consistently underexposes? or is the evaluative metering is just bad on the X-T1?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
Thanks.
 
it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Are you shooting Raw or JPEG? What's your DR setting? Do you have some samples you can share?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
With my X-T10, shooting JPEG, I've found that I can just turn over the exposure to my camera's automation -- multi-zone metering, auto aperture, auto shutter speed, auto ISO, auto DR -- and that works fine for most scenes. Occasionally I do need to adjust the exposure compensation.

If you're working with Raw, there's the question of how your Raw conversion software interacts with the Fujifilm Raw file. Especially with DR200 and DR400 (or Auto-DR using DR200).

If you're turning off some of the exposure automation, it can be a bit more complicated because you need to understand how the remaining automation reacts in a partially-automated mode.
 
Hi,
Six months or so ago, just before leaving for an extended trip, I bought the X-T1. Coming from a Nikon D700 that nails exposure every time, I found the X-T1 to be hit and miss. Not wanting to screw up the photos, I spent the whole 5 month trip doing street photography in 42+ degrees heat of India, Thailand and Cambodia whilst using the camera in full manual mode. ..not easy
Now I have time for testing, i want to get to know the camera's characteristics in Auto Exposure mode and with little testing I have done so far, it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Average metering should give an average gray equivalent of 12%. Do you find that the final image has a lower average intensity?

For average scenes, do you find that the histogram is skewed to the left?

Does the camera really choose a lower exposure than you would use when shooting manually, or does it not apply enough brightening?

Do you use SOOC JPEGs? If so, what settings are you using?

Do you process the raw files? If so, how? I guess you don't because you would undoubtedly adjust the brightness to your liking.
Does anybody else find they have this issue with the X-T1? Do you find it consistently underexposes? or is the evaluative metering is just bad on the X-T1?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
It is not unheard of that people use constant EC, not just on Fuji cameras but on all kinds of others as well.

But I think you may just need to get a better feel for how the camera meters and determines the exposure parameters and how the data are getting brightened, depending on ISO settings, film simulations and JPEG-processing parameters (if using SOOC JPEGs).
 
Hi,
Six months or so ago, just before leaving for an extended trip, I bought the X-T1. Coming from a Nikon D700 that nails exposure every time, I found the X-T1 to be hit and miss. Not wanting to screw up the photos, I spent the whole 5 month trip doing street photography in 42+ degrees heat of India, Thailand and Cambodia whilst using the camera in full manual mode. ..not easy
Now I have time for testing, i want to get to know the camera's characteristics in Auto Exposure mode and with little testing I have done so far, it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Does anybody else find they have this issue with the X-T1? Do you find it consistently underexposes? or is the evaluative metering is just bad on the X-T1?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
Thanks.

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Hi,

I suggest you shoot differently, just look in the viewfinder if your image is exposed as you want, look at the histogram (to see if you don't clip highlights) and use the exposure compensation.

I always use the average metering simply because it is more stabe. It is easier then to adjust the exposure compensation.

I don't really understand the need for metering with mirrorless. It is so simple this way !

This is just a suggestion, everybody may have its own preferences.

Hope this helps.
My goal is to find a setting that I can set and forget like I can with the D700. D700 with -.3 exp compensation nailed the correct exposure on 99.9% of the shots.

Not having to worry about exposure means I can better concentrate on composition and capturing a fleeting moment

--
www.hangitstraight.com
www.hangitstraight.co.nz
 
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Average metering mode is not intended for general use. Try matrix metering with -1/3 compensation.

Even then, you will still have to be aware of lighting conditions, high contrast scenes and the final image you are after.
 
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it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Are you shooting Raw or JPEG? What's your DR setting? Do you have some samples you can share?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
With my X-T10, shooting JPEG, I've found that I can just turn over the exposure to my camera's automation -- multi-zone metering, auto aperture, auto shutter speed, auto ISO, auto DR -- and that works fine for most scenes. Occasionally I do need to adjust the exposure compensation.

If you're working with Raw, there's the question of how your Raw conversion software interacts with the Fujifilm Raw file. Especially with DR200 and DR400 (or Auto-DR using DR200).

If you're turning off some of the exposure automation, it can be a bit more complicated because you need to understand how the remaining automation reacts in a partially-automated mode.
 
Hi,
Six months or so ago, just before leaving for an extended trip, I bought the X-T1. Coming from a Nikon D700 that nails exposure every time, I found the X-T1 to be hit and miss. Not wanting to screw up the photos, I spent the whole 5 month trip doing street photography in 42+ degrees heat of India, Thailand and Cambodia whilst using the camera in full manual mode. ..not easy
Now I have time for testing, i want to get to know the camera's characteristics in Auto Exposure mode and with little testing I have done so far, it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Average metering should give an average gray equivalent of 12%. Do you find that the final image has a lower average intensity?

For average scenes, do you find that the histogram is skewed to the left?

Does the camera really choose a lower exposure than you would use when shooting manually, or does it not apply enough brightening?

Do you use SOOC JPEGs? If so, what settings are you using?

Do you process the raw files? If so, how? I guess you don't because you would undoubtedly adjust the brightness to your liking.
Does anybody else find they have this issue with the X-T1? Do you find it consistently underexposes? or is the evaluative metering is just bad on the X-T1?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
It is not unheard of that people use constant EC, not just on Fuji cameras but on all kinds of others as well.

But I think you may just need to get a better feel for how the camera meters and determines the exposure parameters and how the data are getting brightened, depending on ISO settings, film simulations and JPEG-processing parameters (if using SOOC JPEGs).
Hey,

Whether I Shoot in Raw or Jpeg, the outcomes are the same.

I'm not sure what you mean about image intensity. For me correctly exposed images should have say a white piece of paper in it at around 250 white with 256 being out of the camera's dynamic range. If I take a shot with the camera on auto exposure with the EC dial at 0, In post, I have to add a whole stop of exposure to get that white up to the 250-255 range. ..maybe I have been spoiled by the D700's consisitancy.
 
Average metering mode is not intended for general use. Try matrix metering with -1/3 compensation.

Even then, you will still have to be aware of lighting conditions, high contrast scenes and the final image you are after.
I thought the term Matrix metering was a Nikon term, so I didn't use it. When I say Average I am not meaning center weighted, or spot metering.
 
it seems that on Average Metering setting it under exposes by a full stop.
Are you shooting Raw or JPEG? What's your DR setting? Do you have some samples you can share?
Are you always up and down the exposure compensation dial, or can you leave it be for the majority of shots?
With my X-T10, shooting JPEG, I've found that I can just turn over the exposure to my camera's automation -- multi-zone metering, auto aperture, auto shutter speed, auto ISO, auto DR -- and that works fine for most scenes. Occasionally I do need to adjust the exposure compensation.

If you're working with Raw, there's the question of how your Raw conversion software interacts with the Fujifilm Raw file. Especially with DR200 and DR400 (or Auto-DR using DR200).

If you're turning off some of the exposure automation, it can be a bit more complicated because you need to understand how the remaining automation reacts in a partially-automated mode.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?

Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?

--
www.hangitstraight.com
www.hangitstraight.co.nz
 
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Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
Thanks for your insights.

Yes I can easily add +1. exposure comp in post, but that can come at a sacrifice to shadow noise being amplified.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
Thanks for your insights.
Yes I can easily add +1. exposure comp in post, but that can come at a sacrifice to shadow noise being amplified.
Sorry again for being a bit of a stickler here: exposure compensation is applied in the camera before taking the shot, and that may indeed affect exposure if it affects aperture and/or exposure time. In post, all that's done is a brightness adjustment. I realize that some software calls that exposure adjustment, but the software manufacturer is doing themselves and the users a huge disfavor by muddying the waters.

Anyway, in the end, captured data need to be mapped appropriately to give the final image. Before taking the shot, there is a certain artistic intent, primarily expressed in terms of the desired depth of field and amount of motion blur. These two parameters translate directly into exposure (amount of light hitting the sensor) through aperture and shutter speed. The measured intensities are then subjected to all sorts of transformations during processing, including amplification (brightening). And indeed, brightening doesn't only amplify the signal but also the noise. If you want to get a desired image brightness there is no way around amplifying the noise accordingly. And yes, if you need to brighten a lot, shadow noise is usually the first type that becomes visible.

I'm sure you knew all that, but I wanted to spell it out to make my point: you have no choice. the amount of brightening to give the desired result must be adjusted, one way or another, for every camera and every image.

If you then find that, for a given artistic intent (depth of field and motion blur) and the corresponding exposure (aperture, shutter speed and scene luminance) the necessary amount of brightening gives you too much noise for your taste, then you need a different camera.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
Thanks for your insights.
Yes I can easily add +1. exposure comp in post, but that can come at a sacrifice to shadow noise being amplified.
Sorry again for being a bit of a stickler here: exposure compensation is applied in the camera before taking the shot, and that may indeed affect exposure if it affects aperture and/or exposure time. In post, all that's done is a brightness adjustment. I realize that some software calls that exposure adjustment, but the software manufacturer is doing themselves and the users a huge disfavor by muddying the waters.

Anyway, in the end, captured data need to be mapped appropriately to give the final image. Before taking the shot, there is a certain artistic intent, primarily expressed in terms of the desired depth of field and amount of motion blur. These two parameters translate directly into exposure (amount of light hitting the sensor) through aperture and shutter speed. The measured intensities are then subjected to all sorts of transformations during processing, including amplification (brightening). And indeed, brightening doesn't only amplify the signal but also the noise. If you want to get a desired image brightness there is no way around amplifying the noise accordingly. And yes, if you need to brighten a lot, shadow noise is usually the first type that becomes visible.

I'm sure you knew all that, but I wanted to spell it out to make my point: you have no choice. the amount of brightening to give the desired result must be adjusted, one way or another, for every camera and every image.

If you then find that, for a given artistic intent (depth of field and motion blur) and the corresponding exposure (aperture, shutter speed and scene luminance) the necessary amount of brightening gives you too much noise for your taste, then you need a different camera.
If the camera got the auto exposure recipe correct (Iso, fstop, shutter speed), then I wouldn't need to add any brightness to the file. I was wanting to know if there was anyway I could get the camera to be more accurate at the recipe by tweaking camera settings.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
Thanks for your insights.
Yes I can easily add +1. exposure comp in post, but that can come at a sacrifice to shadow noise being amplified.
Sorry again for being a bit of a stickler here: exposure compensation is applied in the camera before taking the shot, and that may indeed affect exposure if it affects aperture and/or exposure time. In post, all that's done is a brightness adjustment. I realize that some software calls that exposure adjustment, but the software manufacturer is doing themselves and the users a huge disfavor by muddying the waters.

Anyway, in the end, captured data need to be mapped appropriately to give the final image. Before taking the shot, there is a certain artistic intent, primarily expressed in terms of the desired depth of field and amount of motion blur. These two parameters translate directly into exposure (amount of light hitting the sensor) through aperture and shutter speed. The measured intensities are then subjected to all sorts of transformations during processing, including amplification (brightening). And indeed, brightening doesn't only amplify the signal but also the noise. If you want to get a desired image brightness there is no way around amplifying the noise accordingly. And yes, if you need to brighten a lot, shadow noise is usually the first type that becomes visible.

I'm sure you knew all that, but I wanted to spell it out to make my point: you have no choice. the amount of brightening to give the desired result must be adjusted, one way or another, for every camera and every image.

If you then find that, for a given artistic intent (depth of field and motion blur) and the corresponding exposure (aperture, shutter speed and scene luminance) the necessary amount of brightening gives you too much noise for your taste, then you need a different camera.
If the camera got the auto exposure recipe correct (Iso, fstop, shutter speed), then I wouldn't need to add any brightness to the file. I was wanting to know if there was anyway I could get the camera to be more accurate at the recipe by tweaking camera settings.
If you rely on all-auto, you need to make sure you are metering correctly and that white balance is set correctly. And you implied previously that that is where you may see the problem.

But you haven't yet given examples for the exposure results you get from your two cameras. If you use equivalent focal lengths and the same framing, what exposure parameters and what ISO values are the cameras suggesting?

Try different metering modes, but meter off the same patches. You previously mentioned a test scene you used with dark regions and point light sources. If you used matrix or average metering you can run into issues here. Point light sources or specular highlights can entirely throw the metering off if they happen to fall into the areas used for metering. Instead, try metering off of the white paper and see if results are more consistent

It would be really helpful to understand what the effect is you are talking about if you presented images from such tests.
 
Sorry to be a little bit more precise here: you want the exposure to be some way depending on desired DoF and motion blur, and then you want the image brightness to come out the way you imagine it should. I am making that explicit distinction, because it may be at the heart of your issues.

If you set your camera to DR200, you will never ever be able to shoot at base ISO. DR200 requires at least ISO400. Although DR200 has a purpose, keeping the camera there at all times is, um, suboptimal. besides, when you shoot raw, you have full control over processing, so you could simply ignore the DR expansion functions, but they can come unhandy occasionally, even for raw shooters.

So, with ISO400, say, compared to ISO200, the camera will meter to give an exposure (combination of aperture and shutter speed) that will be 1EV lower. At the same time, the camera sets an EXIF flag instructing a raw converter to digitally brighten the image by 1EV to maintain the same total amount of amplification that one would get if one had set the camera to ISO200. In other words, a shot taken with the some exposure settings and at ISO200/DR100 and another one taken with the same exposure settings but at ISO400/DR200 will roughly have the same overall average brightness. Unless you are using a raw converter that doesn't recognize the DR200 flag in which case the image will come out 1EV less bright. That has happened in the past, but should nowadays no longer be a problem with decent raw converters (which one are you using, btw?).

Coming back to "within .3 - .6 of a stop": image brightness is a tricky thing. Unless you have a fully and correctly calibrated setup, consisting of a reference color/gray chart, calibrated lighting, perfect white balance, proper raw conversion, and calibrated monitor or printer, it is difficult to know whether the camera gets it right. I assume you don't have such a setup. Perhaps your way of working with your Nikon files has given you the desired results and now you find that it doesn't work so well anymore with your Fuji files. It could be a simple as increasing the brightness on your monitor. If you had had the Fuji first and worked out how it got you the desired brightness, then got the Nikon, you may have well started a thread in the Nikon forum saying "Hey, my Nikon images are coming out too bright. What's going on here?".

Point is, you probably don't not know which camera is "correct".

So, to get to the bottom of all this, I would suggest you compare exposures between your cameras. Take lenses that give you the same field of view, choose some exposure time for both cameras, set the aperture to equivalent values. That'll give you them same exposure while maintaining the same image. Then process the images however you do and compare the resulting image brightnesses. Then you will know how the two systems compare in your hands. It is common to find differences between systems, so just accept that and learn how to compensate when switching from one to the other.
Hey, thanks for the in-depth response.

A Little background on me. I have been shooting Dslr's for 10 years, got a stable of glass and always get to know my camera and lens capabilities inside and out. I have been intrinsically studying and practicing photography all these years.
I have a fully calibrated set up Eizo monitor and even the room i edit in is colour calibrated with white walls, black curtains to stop colour cast from the sun shining through them and they are always closed when editing. I have a 6500 Kelvin light bulb with a blue material swatch added to add a little more blue. Blue that my Ambient colour spectrometer told me was missing from the environment.
I have shot Nikon all these years, always had them set to Matrix metering with -.3 exp compensation and being aware of the camera's dynamic range limitations so using working around's or not even bothering to take the shot for knowing it to be too great of a task for the camera, I have had 99.9% of images correctly exposed.

Here I am with the X-T1 using the same techniques as always and Im getting exposure fluctuations. ..Oh BTW, I am shooting DR100, sorry, my mistake. I just went and checked.

I use SilkyPix for converting .RAF's, Lightroom for .NEF's and any extra work that needs doing I import the TIFF's into Photoshop.

For this occasion/Issue. I shot an image with the camera set to Raw+jpeg. The image was purposely taken with dark shadows and bright point source lights in the shot. A scenario that would make even the best of cameras struggle. In among the items in the test shot I put a piece of white paper. This white paper was the control. If the camera nailed it, I would expect the paper to be a 250 'ish white it wasn't. I had to add exactly +1.0 exposure compensation to both the jpeg and the raw file.

How does that DR setting work? I know it increases the dynamic range of the camera, but at what expense?
The "DR Expansion modes" do not increase DR per se. DR is maximum at base ISO, and then drops as one goes towards higher ISOs. What the DR Expansion modes do is reduce analog amplification and increase digital amplification, relative to DR100. The increase in DR is relative to DR100, but it is not above what the sensor can deliver at base ISO.
Is it that the camera isn't so capable to what i'm used to or something I am doing wrong?
You say you process raw data. So then why don't you simply adjust the brightness in all of your Fuji files and call it a day? To me it seems like your processing scheme isn't fully adapted to the peculiarities of the Fuji data. Final image brightness is always obtained through a mixture of analog and digital amplification. Analog amplification is set in the camera, digital amplification is done by the camera as well as your processing. You are probably using presets for some rough initial processing. I would suggest to simply add 1EV in brightness to these presets. In the end what counts is what one can do with a given exposure (aperture and shutter speed) in terms of noise. So, go ahead and compare equivalent exposures between the D750 and the X-T1, process the images, match brightness and see which one you like better.

I haven't heard too many accounts of the SOOC JPEG images coming out too dark in general, so I don't know whether there is anything pathological, but you could always show some examples.
Thanks for your insights.
Yes I can easily add +1. exposure comp in post, but that can come at a sacrifice to shadow noise being amplified.
Sorry again for being a bit of a stickler here: exposure compensation is applied in the camera before taking the shot, and that may indeed affect exposure if it affects aperture and/or exposure time. In post, all that's done is a brightness adjustment. I realize that some software calls that exposure adjustment, but the software manufacturer is doing themselves and the users a huge disfavor by muddying the waters.

Anyway, in the end, captured data need to be mapped appropriately to give the final image. Before taking the shot, there is a certain artistic intent, primarily expressed in terms of the desired depth of field and amount of motion blur. These two parameters translate directly into exposure (amount of light hitting the sensor) through aperture and shutter speed. The measured intensities are then subjected to all sorts of transformations during processing, including amplification (brightening). And indeed, brightening doesn't only amplify the signal but also the noise. If you want to get a desired image brightness there is no way around amplifying the noise accordingly. And yes, if you need to brighten a lot, shadow noise is usually the first type that becomes visible.

I'm sure you knew all that, but I wanted to spell it out to make my point: you have no choice. the amount of brightening to give the desired result must be adjusted, one way or another, for every camera and every image.

If you then find that, for a given artistic intent (depth of field and motion blur) and the corresponding exposure (aperture, shutter speed and scene luminance) the necessary amount of brightening gives you too much noise for your taste, then you need a different camera.
If the camera got the auto exposure recipe correct (Iso, fstop, shutter speed), then I wouldn't need to add any brightness to the file. I was wanting to know if there was anyway I could get the camera to be more accurate at the recipe by tweaking camera settings.
If you rely on all-auto, you need to make sure you are metering correctly and that white balance is set correctly. And you implied previously that that is where you may see the problem.

But you haven't yet given examples for the exposure results you get from your two cameras. If you use equivalent focal lengths and the same framing, what exposure parameters and what ISO values are the cameras suggesting?

Try different metering modes, but meter off the same patches. You previously mentioned a test scene you used with dark regions and point light sources. If you used matrix or average metering you can run into issues here. Point light sources or specular highlights can entirely throw the metering off if they happen to fall into the areas used for metering. Instead, try metering off of the white paper and see if results are more consistent

It would be really helpful to understand what the effect is you are talking about if you presented images from such tests.
Thank you.
 

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