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Why is Sony so reluctant about touchscreen?
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billzilla
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For you. I personally didn't use it all the time on my NX camera - BUT it is something that could be useful for some - or most, in certain situations. If nothing else, it makes menu and text input far easier. There's no real reason I can see not to implement it.
What I totally don't get is why people have to say such an option is unnecessary or 'overrated'. Surely you realize there are others buying these cameras with needs or preferences not like yours, right?
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billzilla
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While I agree that some poo-poo-ing the touchscreen may be doing so out of ignorance that doesn't mean the option is 1. desirable to everyone and 2. faster to do 'most actions' as you claim. I had an NX300 and all it ever helped with was in rare situations where touch to focus was handy -- and menu/text input.
PWPhotography
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Yeah, I have the same feeling. Sony, please add touch screen in all their future models. Very helpful.
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gettybored
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You may accidentally touch the On/Off switch tab in the corner of the screen.many times these "features" get turned on or off by mistake, I do not need nor want a touchscreen, in the old days and even today I would tape my camera up so nothing would move. I do not need a long list of features, that just get in the way, keep it simple think about the image one is creating not what extra "feature" is missing
Bob
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But you can turn the touch function off globally in menu, so that it becomes a normal LCD. There's no way one can turn it on by mistake.
Sean_Jayhawk
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Canon has added a touch screen to their new 5D Mark IV and it's implemented a lot like a tablet or smartphone (e.g., pinch to zoom or expand when reviewing images. My buddy had this camera on a photowalk a few nights ago and he was showing off the touch screen for setting the focus point, etc. It was glorious in action. So, at least Canon is seeing the professional value in touch screens . . . hopefully Sony takes notice.
MikeTakesPix
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I get the feeling that there's patent or legal reasons why Sony is steadfastly avoiding this technology. To those who won't touch the screen, easy enough to disable it - but on these high-end models there's sufficient margin/space/power to pack in the touch layer, so in my mind it's probably boiling down to a legal reason why there's still no touchscreens in late 2016, a decade after the first smartphones had multi-touch...
ebuddha
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what gave it away? the fact that the a99ii didn't have it?
(sorry, couldn't help myself, but your insight just seemed worded rather auspiciously)
Wirralpix
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I read somewhere that Sony consider touchscreen to be amateur and not suitable for advanced cameras. Don't know if that is true. Besides I don't want the AF point changing or menu settings coming up when I put the viewfinder to my eye and my nose touches the LCD screen. Wiping greasy smudges off the screen is bad enough.
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Sean_Jayhawk
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Probably because MRWEC didn't realize that touchscreen replacements for some iPhones can be purchased for $2 - $3. The cost to Sony is probably about 17 cents, so that would jack the price up to unaffordable levels or something. ;-)
Dude? Do you have any clue what you are talking about?
There is a difference between cover glass
and the actual capacitance touch sensor and OLED display that is nowhere close to only $3.
Try at lest 10x that if you get it on cheap.
Learn something before you comment about someone else not being aware of something....
Sean_Jayhawk
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https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-LCD-Touchscreen-for-Apple-iPhone_1233473768.html
What's missing on that? With a large enough order, the price can be a penny so we're not talking a big expense (and the screen is larger). And there a ton that have the whole capacitive screen equipment for $1 - $2 on EBay for a single order. Like someone mentioned, you can find these things on cheap point and shoots and Sony already had this implemented fairly well on my NEX 5N.
What's missing on that? With a large enough order, the price can be a penny so we're not talking a big expense (and the screen is larger). And there a ton that have the whole capacitive screen equipment for $1 - $2 on EBay for a single order. Like someone mentioned, you can find these things on cheap point and shoots and Sony already had this implemented fairly well on my NEX 5N.
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So you don't need it... but is is useful for many. As said you can turn the feature off. If sony provides it automatically turned off then unless you dive into the menu system to turn it off you should not have a problem with it.many times these "features" get turned on or off by mistake, I do not need nor want a touchscreen, in the old days and even today I would tape my camera up so nothing would move. I do not need a long list of features, that just get in the way, keep it simple think about the image one is creating not what extra "feature" is missing
Bob
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There is a saying... it is better to have a condom and not need it than not have one and need it. I find that tends to apply to a lot of features. For those who do movies casually (since this is also advertised as a video capable device), it is nice to be able to focus on one subject then to the next without having to learn how to manual focus (especially with most of these fly by wire lenses), or invest in additional gear to be able to do it.
Lastly, sony is pretty much the camera manufacturer that seems to through in all but the kitchen sink. It is just odd for them not to have a touch screen... even nikon got onto the bandwagon. Business-wise it also makes sense for sony to include it. It is far more annoying to miss shots from an AF point selection perception compared to the very rare times when you would have accidentally turn the feature on and bumped and slide your nose onto the screen. I imagine it would also be a trouble optional thing... touch screen off, and touch pad like operation, making the issue you mention even more unlikely.
NumberOne
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Spot on - And the same could be said about GPS, although I can't imagine turning it off/on with the nose on the screen?!So you don't need it... but is is useful for many. As said you can turn the feature off. If sony provides it automatically turned off then unless you dive into the menu system to turn it off you should not have a problem with it.many times these "features" get turned on or off by mistake, I do not need nor want a touchscreen, in the old days and even today I would tape my camera up so nothing would move. I do not need a long list of features, that just get in the way, keep it simple think about the image one is creating not what extra "feature" is missing
Bob
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There is a saying... it is better to have a condom and not need it than not have one and need it. I find that tends to apply to a lot of features. For those who do movies casually (since this is also advertised as a video capable device), it is nice to be able to focus on one subject then to the next without having to learn how to manual focus (especially with most of these fly by wire lenses), or invest in additional gear to be able to do it.
Lastly, sony is pretty much the camera manufacturer that seems to through in all but the kitchen sink. It is just odd for them not to have a touch screen... even nikon got onto the bandwagon. Business-wise it also makes sense for sony to include it. It is far more annoying to miss shots from an AF point selection perception compared to the very rare times when you would have accidentally turn the feature on and bumped and slide your nose onto the screen. I imagine it would also be a trouble optional thing... touch screen off, and touch pad like operation, making the issue you mention even more unlikely.
All the best,
Pedro
.... then google Xperia C4 touchscreen problems. 100s of so-called anecdotes out there. Yes, the Xperia is a phone. But a touchscreen just means one more piece of complex electronics that can fail .
Sean_Jayhawk
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Phones are used constantly, sometimes all day and every day by people and the touch is at the very essence of a smartphone. When a single phone maker has huge issues then it's likely they screwed up in manufacturing or they cut costs too much and used cheap parts. Who knows? But we do know that we have seen people buy more than 1 billion iPhones alone (and that's not even considering Android and others). And people keep buying these things, so the reliability has to be good enough that people keep on buying. I have no clue why a poorly manufactured phone is even being brought into the discussion when we have very durable and reliable touchscreens made by the Sony camera division on the NEX cameras (e.g., my NEX 5N that is still performing really well) that we can discuss. There were never rampant complaints about the touchscreens on the NEX cameras, so these aren't some touchscreens made by Sony Mobile Communications Inc. (Sony is a multinational conglomerate corporation with mobile being a company independent from the corporation that makes cameras).
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