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Kinda funny talking about BH since NY city has no power now, i guess thas why those linked photos dont work right now from BH. Of course my order was shipping out today , Hope it made it out of NY city before 4:00pm!!
Todd Walker said:
theblue said:
That means I may have to import it.
Is B&H a good company to deal with ?
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There is none better. I buy the vast majority of my equipment from
them and I have never had the first bit of trouble. I couldn't
possibly recommend them more highly.

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Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
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My emails keep being returned from B&H, maybe I mistyped the address.
Todd Walker said:
theblue said:
That means I may have to import it.
Is B&H a good company to deal with ?
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There is none better. I buy the vast majority of my equipment from
them and I have never had the first bit of trouble. I couldn't
possibly recommend them more highly.

--
Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
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http://www.fototime.com/inv/2DE8A73EF9811C6
 
The Canon 550EX is the way to go. The 420 has no control over ANY flash settings like the 550EX. If you use flash often, you'll eventually upgrade to the 550EX anyway, so save youself some money and get the 550EX up front!
theblue said:
i want a dedicated flash for the 10d and i am replacing my sunpak 383.
Can anyone make a decent recommendation.
i noticed on some wedding reception shots i took with my 707 that
the flash when used in the vertical position of the camera produced
to much light down one side.
Is there any way of avoiding this with the 10D, do I need to buy an
accessory with any flash purchase?--
http://www.fototime.com/inv/2DE8A73EF9811C6
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Check my profile for equipment list.
 
theblue said:
i want a dedicated flash for the 10d and i am replacing my sunpak 383.
Can anyone make a decent recommendation.
i noticed on some wedding reception shots i took with my 707 that
the flash when used in the vertical position of the camera produced
to much light down one side.
Is there any way of avoiding this with the 10D, do I need to buy an
accessory with any flash purchase?--
http://www.fototime.com/inv/2DE8A73EF9811C6
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kawasakiman said:
theblue said:
i want a dedicated flash for the 10d and i am replacing my sunpak 383.
Can anyone make a decent recommendation.
i noticed on some wedding reception shots i took with my 707 that
the flash when used in the vertical position of the camera produced
to much light down one side.
Is there any way of avoiding this with the 10D, do I need to buy an
accessory with any flash purchase?--
http://www.fototime.com/inv/2DE8A73EF9811C6
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Canon 1D & Optio S
 
I'll bet I've sent them a half-million dollars worth of business in the past fifteen years, if you include referrals to state agencies I've made.

I highly recommend them. They're not always the least expensive, but I have never had a return problem with them in literally hundreds of orders.
 
The 550EX is a good unit. I use it, and two 420EX strobes at weddings. Although the 550 does not have the power of a METZ, unless you need to shoot at F16 in a dark room I think you'll be happy.
 
Doug Walker said:
The Canon 550EX is the way to go. The 420 has no control over ANY
flash settings like the 550EX. If you use flash often, you'll
eventually upgrade to the 550EX anyway, so save youself some money
and get the 550EX up front!
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What settings? You can set the flash compensation from the camera, as well as 1st/2nd curtain sync. So what else does the 550 do that the 420 doesn't?

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Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
 
Thanks Steve and others what glowing endorsements for B&H . I guess my money (and my goods are safe with B&H)
Steve Barnhart said:
I'll bet I've sent them a half-million dollars worth of business in
the past fifteen years, if you include referrals to state agencies
I've made.

I highly recommend them. They're not always the least expensive,
but I have never had a return problem with them in literally
hundreds of orders.
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http://www.fototime.com/inv/2DE8A73EF9811C6
 
I've owned the Canon 380 EX, Canon 420EX and Sigma 500 Super which is supposed to the 550 equivalent. I now own 3 550EXs and the ST-E2 and no longer have the others. Here are some differences between the 420 and 550 (not a complete list):
1. Act as a master in a wireless setup.
2. Ability to set 3 different ratios in a multi-flash set up.
3. Variable power manual flash output.
4. Ability to accept external power sources.
5. Built-in diffuser allowing coverage to 17mm (full frame equivalent).
6. Higher power output.
7. 6 Custom functions
8. Flash head can be tilted downward slightly for closeups.
9, Flash exposure bracketing.
10. Flash exposure compensation independent of the camera body.
11. Manual control over zoom setting.
12. 2nd curtain sync
13. Modeling flash capability
There is more info on Canon's web site.

If you want maximum creative control over your flash unit AND maintain complete compatibility then the 550 is the only real choice. If you think you will ever go to a wireless multi-flash environment then you could start with the 420 but you will ultimately want a 550 to go with it.
Todd Walker said:
Doug Walker said:
The Canon 550EX is the way to go. The 420 has no control over ANY
flash settings like the 550EX. If you use flash often, you'll
eventually upgrade to the 550EX anyway, so save youself some money
and get the 550EX up front!
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What settings? You can set the flash compensation from the camera,
as well as 1st/2nd curtain sync. So what else does the 550 do that
the 420 doesn't?

--
Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
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--
Doug Walker
Check my profile for equipment list.
 
Doug Walker said:
I've owned the Canon 380 EX, Canon 420EX and Sigma 500 Super which
is supposed to the 550 equivalent. I now own 3 550EXs and the ST-E2
and no longer have the others. Here are some differences between
the 420 and 550 (not a complete list):
1. Act as a master in a wireless setup.
2. Ability to set 3 different ratios in a multi-flash set up.
3. Variable power manual flash output.
4. Ability to accept external power sources.
5. Built-in diffuser allowing coverage to 17mm (full frame
equivalent).
6. Higher power output.
7. 6 Custom functions
8. Flash head can be tilted downward slightly for closeups.
9, Flash exposure bracketing.
10. Flash exposure compensation independent of the camera body.
11. Manual control over zoom setting.
12. 2nd curtain sync
13. Modeling flash capability
There is more info on Canon's web site.
If you want maximum creative control over your flash unit AND
maintain complete compatibility then the 550 is the only real
choice. If you think you will ever go to a wireless multi-flash
environment then you could start with the 420 but you will
ultimately want a 550 to go with it.
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Thanks for the info Doug. That is great information. Since you are a user of the ST-E2 and multi flashes, let me ask you a couple of questions. Right now my lighting setup is this -- I have an Alien Bees B800 monolight as main, Vivitar 285HV on a lightstand firing into a small umbrella for fill, and the 420EX on the camera if necessary. I normally run a PC sync cable to the AB monolight and use a Wein peanut slave on the 285, which is triggered by the AB's flash. I would like to go with a wireless setup using the ST-E2 to trigger the 420EX on the lightstand, which could in turn trigger the AB, which of course has a slave sensor. Now for my questions:
  • If the 420EX is pointed into an umbrella and there isn't line of sight between it and the ST-E2, will the E2 trigger it?
  • I assume that when you use the E2, the 420 still emits a preflash for E-TTL metering, which would trigger the AB light prematurely. Do you know of any way to disable the preflash?
Thanks
Todd

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Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
 
Todd,

I also have 3 AB 800s but have never mixed my 550s and Bees in a wireless situation. There has been some discussion on this forum (or maybe the lighting forum) in the past about using Canon's wireless setup with the Bees but I think it was in relation to the 550 since it can be put in manual mode and fired without a preflash. In that case the 550 was simply mounted to the camera, set in manual mode with very low output (1/128) and used to fire the strobes. Unfortunately, there is no manual mode for the 420. The only way for ETTL to determine the proper output of the 420 is by using the preflash (another limitation). You may still have to run a PC cord to the Bees if you want to use your 420 and ST-E2.

Sorry I don't have a more definitive answer for you. You may have to do a little research or maybe someone else has a solution for you.
Todd Walker said:
Thanks for the info Doug. That is great information. Since you are
a user of the ST-E2 and multi flashes, let me ask you a couple of
questions. Right now my lighting setup is this -- I have an Alien
Bees B800 monolight as main, Vivitar 285HV on a lightstand firing
into a small umbrella for fill, and the 420EX on the camera if
necessary. I normally run a PC sync cable to the AB monolight and
use a Wein peanut slave on the 285, which is triggered by the AB's
flash. I would like to go with a wireless setup using the ST-E2 to
trigger the 420EX on the lightstand, which could in turn trigger
the AB, which of course has a slave sensor. Now for my questions:
  • If the 420EX is pointed into an umbrella and there isn't line of
sight between it and the ST-E2, will the E2 trigger it?
  • I assume that when you use the E2, the 420 still emits a preflash
for E-TTL metering, which would trigger the AB light prematurely.
Do you know of any way to disable the preflash?

Thanks
Todd

--
Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
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--
Doug Walker
Check my profile for equipment list.
 
Doug Walker said:
Todd,
I also have 3 AB 800s but have never mixed my 550s and Bees in a
wireless situation. There has been some discussion on this forum
(or maybe the lighting forum) in the past about using Canon's
wireless setup with the Bees but I think it was in relation to the
550 since it can be put in manual mode and fired without a
preflash. In that case the 550 was simply mounted to the camera,
set in manual mode with very low output (1/128) and used to fire
the strobes. Unfortunately, there is no manual mode for the 420.
The only way for ETTL to determine the proper output of the 420 is
by using the preflash (another limitation). You may still have to
run a PC cord to the Bees if you want to use your 420 and ST-E2.
Sorry I don't have a more definitive answer for you. You may have
to do a little research or maybe someone else has a solution for
you.
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No problem Doug. Thanks for the info. If I have to, I have a Sunpak 383 that I can set to its lowest power setting and trigger both the Vivitar and the AB. I was just hoping for a more elegant solution :-)

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Todd Walker
http://twalker.d2g.com
Canon 10D:
http://twalker.d2g.com/canon10d
 
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