G80 photos and specs

The G80 is getting little attention in another thread, perhaps due to its title ("press release"), so thought I'd try a thread dedicated just to it. I believe the G80 may turn out to be the headline mFT story at Photokina given that the GH5 and E-M1 II will only be "pre-announced" and likely unavailable for reviewers to handle.

G80 specs (from 43rumors leak):

• 16.0MP 4/3 type Live MOS sensor with no low-pass filter
• on sensor 5-axis camera shake correction
• New gyro-sensor technology “Dual IS MK II”
• shake-free shutter from the GX80
• DFD technology
• Dust and water proof, magnesium body
• Video: 4K30p, FullHD60p
• ISO Sensitivity: 200-25600
• Continuous shooting: up to 9 frames / sec. (up from 8 fps)
• EVF: 236 Man 1.48 times dot OLED (formerly 1.4x) 35mm equivalent 0.74 times (formerly .70x)
• The rear monitor: 3-inch 1.04 million dot, Free Angle (does this include tilt?)
• Media: SD / SDHC / SDXC card

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-full-gx85-lx10-fz2500-press-text-leaked/

Compared to the G7: no low-pass filter (10% improved resolution), 5-axis IBIS + Dual IS MK II, DFD auto-focus for tracking action (likely improved), shake free shutter, 8K stills at 30 fps, 9 fps mech shutter, larger EVF, dust/water proof magnesium body and assumedly the mic port from the G7 (major shortfall of the GX80/85).

I'm also curious whether "Free Angle (a new term from Panasonic) means the screen can be both fully articulated while also being capable of a simple tilt as well.

Size appears slightly larger than the G7 (roughly 1/8" wider, 1/16" taller) and with mildly more smoothed out angles. I find it a handsome camera:



Given 5-axis IBIS and dust/water proof magnesium body, I'm expecting a noticeable price bump from the G7, perhaps $1,000, similar to its likely competitors, the a6300 and E-M5 II. Come to think of it, that would make for an interesting comparison review ;-) .

Panasonic G7 specs for those interested in comparing:

https://www.panasonic.com/uk/consum...ix-g-compact-system-cameras/dmc-g7.specs.html

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It certainly has my attention!

Ron

Being Panasonic, you know the video execution will be excellent, and being a G7 follow-up it should have a mic port, so that will be nailed down. Then add in 5-axis IBIS, a 10% improvement in resolution, DFD for tracking action, 8MP stills at 30fps, well, the list goes on for stills.

This is the first full-featured Panasonic camera that seems to put it all together for me since my GM1 did as a take anywhere. Very curious as to price and getting more confirmation on weather sealing.

sderdiarian said:

I'm also curious whether "Free Angle (a new term from Panasonic) means the screen can be both fully articulated while also being capable of a simple tilt as well.

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Can't imagine how that would even be possible

But in any case, looking at the photos here I don't see anything unusual? It looks like a regular flip out screen to me?

Maybe "free angle" means you can angle it without obstructing any jacks or ports that might be on the side of the camera? (thereby keeping them "free") :-D

It is a translation of the specs, no need to look into some deeper meaning. That is not from Panasonic.

Just missing

1. 2nd SD card slot
2. SD cards accessible from the hand grip and not the battery door
3. Optional Battery Grip
4. A little better high iso performance

None of those things are a real deal killer. I really love my G7 but now I'm thinking about trading her in. :-( I'm really happy Panasonic didn't mess with the button layout too much because this camera already perfect. The flash release button looks to be the only one that got moved.

arrr said:

Just missing

• Optional Battery Grip

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Actually, reports say it does have an optional battery grip. It also appears to have the electromagnetic shutter from the GX85 (so negligible shutter shock with the mechanical shutter).

Reports on weather sealing are mixed, though. It will be great if it has it.

Panasonic is on a roll lately IMO, the GX85 came as a big surprise after sporadic GX releases over the years and both it and the G7 were MUCH more aggressively priced than past Panasonic bodies... I'd agree that weather sealing alone should bump this one to a grand, but I wouldn't be surprised if they come in under it.

I actually think Panasonic has kinda traded places with Oly, in a good way, despite my last body purchase being an E-M5 II (got a great price on it and it just fit me better than the GX8). The Oly of old got praise for using the same sensor across it's whole lineup and basically holding very few features back from it's lower end models.

Now it's actually Panasonic that's holding almost nothing back from it's mid tier bodies and in fact debuting new features within them (new shutter, IBIS for video, etc). Old Panasonic wouldn't have shifted things like DFD & 4K down the line so quickly.

Meanwhile Oly has put out a single body with PDAF, neglecting to include it in any of the 3 smaller ones that followed, while others continue to lap them in this regard, and they keep pricing their PENs way too high (never mind the lack of sealing on the F, at several hundred more than the E-M5 II). Kinda disappointed in Oly tbh.

I wonder where either goes after updating their flagship models tho... Oly is a bit further removed from their mid tier refreshes but Pana's are still recent or in the pike (G80), back to the entry level or GMs? Pace they're going it'll be a while, but that's alright, the market really doesn't need yearly refreshes for the heck of it.

Hatstand said:

sderdiarian said:

I'm also curious whether "Free Angle (a new term from Panasonic) means the screen can be both fully articulated while also being capable of a simple tilt as well.

Click to expand...

Can't imagine how that would even be possible

But in any case, looking at the photos here I don't see anything unusual? It looks like a regular flip out screen to me?

Maybe "free angle" means you can angle it without obstructing any jacks or ports that might be on the side of the camera? (thereby keeping them "free") :-D

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It's perfectly possible, look at some of the old Sony Alpha SLT bodies. Move the hinge to the top and put it on an extending arm.

Impulses said:

Hatstand said:

sderdiarian said:

I'm also curious whether "Free Angle (a new term from Panasonic) means the screen can be both fully articulated while also being capable of a simple tilt as well.

Click to expand...

Can't imagine how that would even be possible

But in any case, looking at the photos here I don't see anything unusual? It looks like a regular flip out screen to me?

Maybe "free angle" means you can angle it without obstructing any jacks or ports that might be on the side of the camera? (thereby keeping them "free") :-D

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It's perfectly possible, look at some of the old Sony Alpha SLT bodies. Move the hinge to the top and put it on an extending arm.

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Also, I swear Sony must have one sweet patent on that or somebody else would've used it by now. Can't fathom why they haven't used it on any mirrorless bodies tho, then again they've resisted touch for no reason as well...

Impulses said:

It's perfectly possible, look at some of the old Sony Alpha SLT bodies. Move the hinge to the top and put it on an extending arm.

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Interesting - can you give a model number? I haven't managed to find one with what you're describing...

It doesn't sound like the screen would be reversible against the body though? That's what I like best about flip-out screens - partly for protection, but mostly because they are normally forced to power off when you reverse them.

(If the EVF is then set to auto-switch when you bring it to your eye... both the screen AND the EVF will be "off" until you bring the camera to your eye... This saves battery at events where I spend a lot of time waiting for good photo opprtunities, but I need the camera ready all the time)

If the G80 has the same ergonomics as my G7 and this lengthy list of improvements, it's just a question of when I get one.

Wow, basically this camera has all what I would like to have seen in my EM1. This is one seriously featured packed camera.

Hatstand said:

Impulses said:

It's perfectly possible, look at some of the old Sony Alpha SLT bodies. Move the hinge to the top and put it on an extending arm.

Click to expand...

Interesting - can you give a model number? I haven't managed to find one with what you're describing...

It doesn't sound like the screen would be reversible against the body though? That's what I like best about flip-out screens - partly for protection, but mostly because they are normally forced to power off when you reverse them.

(If the EVF is then set to auto-switch when you bring it to your eye... both the screen AND the EVF will be "off" until you bring the camera to your eye... This saves battery at events where I spend a lot of time waiting for good photo opprtunities, but I need the camera ready all the time)

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It was reversible, tho apparently seldom pictured while reversed, or my Google Fu is weak. I just Googled 'Sony alpha tilt articulated screen':













Not sure about what models had these, one of those clearly shows A77 tho, DPR's review might have a GIF or better photos of the articulation.

I don't care much about being able to flip it in myself, but I would love the quick ease of use of tilt WITH the versatility of full articulation when needed. I think they went thru a few iterations of those...

So top and middle tier bodies are sealed for both O & P, each still having their own flavour, such as high res v 4K video.

Be interesting to see how prices work out.

The specs look great but I'm going to pass this round. I'm still learning all the things that my G7 will do and with the kit lens, the 45-150 and my newly acquired 100-300 (thanks aae991) I have a light travel kit that will work very well vacations and times I don't want to pack heavy. I have a heavier Investment in my Nikon gear that with the new Tamron G2 150-600 will be my wildlife setup so I'm very happy with the two systems.

Steve

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Wow. Impressive. But wouldn't it be rather "out-of-place" on a m43 sized body? (bulk/weight)

And perhaps just a bit too much for most people? Plus I guess more complicated engineering and manufacturing required, adding to costs?

Hatstand said:

Wow. Impressive. But wouldn't it be rather "out-of-place" on a m43 sized body? (bulk/weight)

And perhaps just a bit too much for most people? Plus I guess more complicated engineering and manufacturing required, adding to costs?

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The GH4 is considerably larger and heavier than the G7, so I'm hoping that the G8/80 isn't much heavier than the G7.

If Panasonic are packing this much into the G8/80, the GH5 spec should be epic.

Impulses said:

Hatstand said:

Impulses said:

It's perfectly possible, look at some of the old Sony Alpha SLT bodies. Move the hinge to the top and put it on an extending arm.

Click to expand...

Interesting - can you give a model number? I haven't managed to find one with what you're describing...

It doesn't sound like the screen would be reversible against the body though? That's what I like best about flip-out screens - partly for protection, but mostly because they are normally forced to power off when you reverse them.

(If the EVF is then set to auto-switch when you bring it to your eye... both the screen AND the EVF will be "off" until you bring the camera to your eye... This saves battery at events where I spend a lot of time waiting for good photo opprtunities, but I need the camera ready all the time)

Click to expand...

It was reversible, tho apparently seldom pictured while reversed, or my Google Fu is weak. I just Googled 'Sony alpha tilt articulated screen':







Not sure about what models had these, one of those clearly shows A77 tho, DPR's review might have a GIF or better photos of the articulation.

I don't care much about being able to flip it in myself, but I would love the quick ease of use of tilt WITH the versatility of full articulation when needed. I think they went thru a few iterations of those...

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Thanks for digging this up, knew I'd read of or seen it in a review somewhere, glad I wasn't just dreaming ! Looks like the G80 can't have it given its flange is on the side. But the flange is different from the G7's and then there's that proprietary "Free Angle" name they've attached to it; I'm guessing something new is up with it.

Another subject, is it the G8K or the G80? A list of products Panasonic's introducing at Fotokina showed up here:

http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-list-ol...nounced-monday-e-m1ii-gh5-will-pre-announced/

• LUMIX DMC-G8-K body
• LUMIX DMC-G8M-K standard zoom lens kit
• Battery Grip DMW-BGG1
• LUMIX DMC-FZH1
• LUMIX DMC-LX9-K
• Soft Case DMW-CLX9-K

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Sailin' Steve