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I queried my local branch of an Australian national camera shop chain about the expected price and availability. They claimed that Oly Australia isn't talking to them about the E-M1 Mk ii.

It has been some months since we pondered the release price so what does the intel tell us?

Cheers, Mark
 
I heard it could cost around $3000.00

I think if that is true, that is far to much. You can buy a good Nikon or Canon for that amount.
 
Same as E-M1 was on release so about 1400-1600€ and then street prices react to it and drops it to 1300-1400€ price range.
 
Ellen 1 said:
I heard it could cost around $3000.00

I think if that is true, that is far to much. You can buy a good Nikon or Canon for that amount.
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And what if the C-AF performance is as top Canon/Nikon sports cameras like D500, D5, 1DMkII?

For that performance $3000 would be nothing.
 
Tommi K1 said:
Ellen 1 said:
I heard it could cost around $3000.00

I think if that is true, that is far to much. You can buy a good Nikon or Canon for that amount.
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And what if the C-AF performance is as top Canon/Nikon sports cameras like D500, D5, 1DMkII?

For that performance $3000 would be nothing.
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The D500, closest that an E-M1 II could come to, is a $2000 camera.
 
Jim in Hudson said:
Tommi K1 said:
Ellen 1 said:
I heard it could cost around $3000.00

I think if that is true, that is far to much. You can buy a good Nikon or Canon for that amount.
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And what if the C-AF performance is as top Canon/Nikon sports cameras like D500, D5, 1DMkII?

For that performance $3000 would be nothing.
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The D500, closest that an E-M1 II could come to, is a $2000 camera.
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D500 has same AF as the D5.

And E-M1 II would be smaller with a far more features than a legacy camera (DSLR) with larger size.

It was rumored (thrown around by some source) that E-M1 II C-AF performance is on latest Nikon top cameras level.

If it would be true and body comes out for $1400 tag, it will be crazy moment for many.

Even if the C-AF performance would be like in D4, it would be crazy moment for many.
 
If it has improved CAF performance, hand held high resolution and slightly better IQ, then probably around $1400 (US dollars). If there is some other significant addition (electronic shutter similar to mechanical shutter with target movement enabling electronic shutter for everything) or significantly better IQ or CAF performance equal to Canon-Nikon, then more like the $1700 of the FTs E5.
 
drj3 said:
If it has improved CAF performance, hand held high resolution and slightly better IQ, then probably around $1400 (US dollars). If there is some other significant addition (electronic shutter similar to mechanical shutter with target movement enabling electronic shutter for everything) or significantly better IQ or CAF performance equal to Canon-Nikon, then more like the $1700 of the FTs E5.

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Dear drj3, thanks again for your considered response. Let's see what the others have to say.

Cheers, Mark





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MarkDavo said:
I queried my local branch of an Australian national camera shop chain about the expected price and availability. They claimed that Oly Australia isn't talking to them about the E-M1 Mk ii.

It has been some months since we pondered the release price so what does the intel tell us?

Cheers, Mark
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MarkDavo said:
I queried my local branch of an Australian national camera shop chain about the expected price and availability. They claimed that Oly Australia isn't talking to them about the E-M1 Mk ii.

It has been some months since we pondered the release price so what does the intel tell us?
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The original was $1399 in the States, probably the same for Mark II, dropping a bit after the blood clears from the waters. It puts them comfortably below the higher-end FX cameras and about par with the latest crop cameras.

Every time Canon comes up with a new dual-pixel camera. I kind of take interest and peek at what they're doing, then realize - nope. They're still resting firmly on their laurels. I would feel kind of violated buying a new 80D right now. I really hope the E-M1 II rumors are true - 4k video, IBIS, weather sealing with a flip-screen please!

Greg.
 
We don't even know the specs and performance so it is tough to guess the price. The range could be from the prince of the original E-M1, which I believe was about $1,300 to the price of the Nikon D500 which is about $2,000 when released.
 
I am looking at either D500, Fuji XT2, or EM1II as my next camera body. Nikon or EM1-2 would be the easiest to add since I already have the lenses.... Fuji I hear good things about improvement in AF, but I hope Olympus leaps ahead....
 
Absolutic said:
I am looking at either D500, Fuji XT2, or EM1II as my next camera body. Nikon or EM1-2 would be the easiest to add since I already have the lenses.... Fuji I hear good things about improvement in AF, but I hope Olympus leaps ahead....
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I have handled the new Fuji XT2 at a Fuji Demo Day a few weeks ago. The AF is improved and I did like that there is basically no black-out. I am expecting the E-M1 Mkii to be even better. If so I will be very pleased. No matter what I am sticking with MFT because of all the lenses I own. It will take 5 years to get the money to buy the similar lenses I own in MFT.
 
next shot said:
I already have a EM1 and Fuji XE2 and they are great cameras, but like you I am looking at Nikon D500 because I think it is the best do all camera on the market.
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I have D750 Nikon. If I did not already owned one, D500 would have been a no-brainer. Especially since you can get a grey D500 for $1589 in the US. However, there are several reviews that state that IQ on my D750 overall is significantly better than on D500, due to simple physics.

Fuji XT2, to open up high speed shooting, you need to buy $1599 Body and $329 Grip = $1929 right off the bat. I don't like the idea of having to buy the grip just to redeem such benefits as boost shooting and longer 4k.

Hope EM1 M2 comes out around $1399 and you would not need to buy an extra grip to get some critical features.
 
DLBlack said:
I have handled the new Fuji XT2 at a Fuji Demo Day a few weeks ago. The AF is improved and I did like that there is basically no black-out.
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Was it no blackout at 8fps, or at full 11fps boost mode?
 
Absolutic said:
I am looking at either D500, Fuji XT2, or EM1II as my next camera body. Nikon or EM1-2 would be the easiest to add since I already have the lenses.... Fuji I hear good things about improvement in AF, but I hope Olympus leaps ahead....
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If you're looking at D500, XT2, and EM1II, I would dare say that you are not very focused on your needs...

while all "flagship" cameras for their systems (Nikon Crop, Fuji, Olympus), they serve different needs and different priorities.

The D500 is the ultimate sports and birds camera. Even if the E-M1II does a huge leap forward in AF, it will not match the absolutely sports-pro-grade AF on the D500. Nor will the E-M1 match the lens selection associated with such type of shooting. However, if you're not into high-action shooting, the D500 (and its lens collection) will be substantially heavier (and more expensive), and hardly justifiable. Esp as feature-wise mirrorless cameras today simply offer more.

The XT2 is in a way the ultimate street/photorealism camera out there. it's "retro style" controls, easier to control without looking through EVF/LV. Its focus is the weakest of the bunch (presumably), and its Zoom Lens selection is, in my eyes, problematic (to say the least), but its prime collection is spectacular. Fuji is a tool loved by photojournalists, artistic photographers and street photographers, although it can fit many more styles of shooting of course, once you get used to the dial-based interface. It's a completely different beast than the D500.

The EM1-II, as a successor of the EM1, is a more of a "Standard" camera designed for people looking at the best compromise between quality and size (and weight). With its (alleged) handheld High-Rez mode, it will allow to compensate to some degree on its smaller sensor for landscape shots, and provide a good "all around" camera. Hopefully there will be a substantial enough improve in AF speed to make its "all around" support action shooting better, but don't think it will be your favorite sports camera tomorrow.

While I could see why comparing flagship cameras in similar price range makes sense, I think the decision on which one you want, is barely relevant to the specifics of the EM1-II, but to what type of camera you are looking for. A sports crop DSLR, a retro mid-size system focused on manual controls, or an overall system with good zoom range and good size/quality ratio.

I chose the EM1 over the XT1 and 80D (Which I owned) for that reason. I would choose the EM1-II over XT2, 7DII/500D, for the same reason.
 
I think I have my needs covered. OM-1 small camera to carry. Fuji XE2 street and people camera. Nikon D7100 and Sony A7 model 2 for most everything else. I shot college baseball , and bike racing with the D7100. Not the best camera for this but I got by. I repeat what I said, the D500 best do all camera under $2000 to date, great speed and IQ very good.
 
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I think I have my needs covered. OM-1 small camera to carry. Fuji XE2 street and people camera. Nikon D7100 and Sony A7 model 2 for most everything else. I shot college baseball , and bike racing with the D7100. Not the best camera for this but I got by. I repeat what I said, the D500 best do all camera under $2000 to date, great speed and IQ very good.
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well - we disagree :)

I think the D500 is an inferior street photography camera due to its immense size and weight, as well as its (not individual, all DSLRs) inferior support for manual focus aids.

I think the D500 is an inferior travel photography camera, due to the weight of the camera as well as good lenses to go with it, whether you are looking for high-end travel photography or more casual travel photography.

In my eyes, the D500 is far from "do all" since "do all" to me goes hand-in-hand with "carry everywhere" - and it's just too damn big for that. I had a Canon 7D as my "do all camera". Back then there were no real alternatives. But it was just too damn heavy, and ended up staying at home more than it should've. I would only take it to "dedicated" photographic needs. I would not carry it with me while walking around the city. I would not take it with me every day to work. I ended up leaving it behind when going travelling unless it was a proper nature/landscape type of trip cause I didnt want to carry it while urban-touring.

Since I moved to M43, I almost always have a camera on me. And I get brilliant results. I'm not saying that the D500 does not have (slightly) improved IQ, and (less slightly) improved speed. I'm just saying those things are relevant for specific needs.

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